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Simple question, do the ranks granted by an Int Headband fulfill the requirements for a class skill's +3 "trained" bonus?
Random example:
Level 3 + Int Headband
(NON-class skill) 1 rank + 3 headband bonus = +3 bonus
(NON-class skill) 0 ranks + 3 headband bonus = +3 bonus
(class skill) 1 rank + 3 headband bonus + 3 training bonus = +6 bonus
(class skill) 0 ranks + 3 headband bonus + ?? training bonus = +3/+6 bonus?
My expectation is that ranks from the headband do NOT get you the class skill training. This would mean that a player's best option would be to put a single rank into these class skills in order to get the training bonus.
Thanks for any clarification! I already did a quick search in the forums but couldn't find an answer.
-Krowbar
This is something I've wondered about as well.
I think they do.
You get skill ranks. Skill ranks in class skills enable the bonus.
The only thing I see disagreeing with that is Core p86 which states the following
If the skill you're using is a class skill (and you have invested ranks into that skill), you gain a +3 bonus on the check.
Does wearing a headband count as "investing ranks into that skill"? I would think not.
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Either you have ranks or you do not. The book says the headband gives you ranks. There is no such thing as pseudo ranks.
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Either you have ranks or you do not. The book says the headband gives you ranks. There is no such thing as pseudo ranks.
Nobody said anything about pseudo ranks. Rather, whether those granted by the headband counted as ranks "invested" by the player.
It should count.
The headband gives a perminent bonus to Int, giving skill ranks. Because of the practical application of an item that can be lost, they set all the ranks to a single skill in case it is removed. But it's still Ranks in the skill
The short way: accept that the answer is yes.
The long way: find an official NPC wearing one (try the NPC codex), and check.
Stat blocks aren't rules.
They say the headband gives ranks. Absent a rule that makes them somehow different than any other rank you put into a skill, its treated as every other rank you put into the skill.
-S
Ranks "invested" or ranks "chosen" or "granted" all mean the same thing.
Ranks, and you have them.
Nothing makes you treat them different.
Hey, that's better for the player so I'm all for that. :)
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Slight thread necro, but consider the skills that are granted by the headband are not wizard/sorcerer class skills, such as perception or sense motive. Would they be treated as class skills since the headband imparts knowledge of those skills to the wearer? Or would they continue to be cross class skills?
The investment is you buying the item or finding the item or making the item.