Orphan Black


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RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Anyone watching this? It premiered on BBC America on Saturday, 3/30/2013.

It's about a woman who discovers she is one of several clones...and someone is trying to kill them.

Grand Lodge

It was interesting. I will likely see more episodes.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Me too.

And since it's about a bajillion clones, they can kill off the main characters like crazy, and still keep the same actress employeed. GRRM would be jealous!!!! ;-)

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

I agree with Mazra, it was interesting. I will admit the side/rear nudity caught me off guard (not that it happened, but that BBC didn't fuzz it out like they did in Torchwood. Male butts vs female butts?)

Grand Lodge

I agree MM. The nudity surprised me too. Especially in the 9:00 hour after the more family friendly Dr. Who. I think this show would have been better at the 10:00 hour with the nudity and language. But it likely would not have had the same ratings. The nudity doesn't bother me, I just believe 10:00 would have been a more appropriate time.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Doesn't bother me either :-D I do agree about the timeslot.

I was more surprised because both Orphan Black and Doctor Who were 60 minutes. I mean if you're going to make Eurominutes for Americans, why cut out other things, given BBCA following more American nuditiy, or at least fog?

Grand Lodge

Orphan Black is made in Canada specifically for BBC America. So that show is likely designed with the 60 minutes in mind. But we do miss out with Doctor Who by getting edited and chopped up versions of the show. I had rather they stretch it out to 90 minutes even with more commercials and not miss anything. (I guess that is my rant for the day.) :)

Shadow Lodge

Had my TV day, where I watch about 20 hours of television in one day (something I do every couple months) and watched the first five episodes. The lead is very good as the very different versions of 'Sara'.

Felt like it was notable that 'Sara' Sara seemed to have some key differences, like she was not contacted by Beth (though the criminal record might have something to do with this), is possibly the only one who can have children, and may not have been targeted until she stumbled onto Beth.

Suspect there are observers and a hunter faction (of which Elena is connected).

Still, interesting series so far.


Good show.


I have not seen too much of this so far, but I have to give them cudos on this one for originality, writing, and acting.

It is a really cool idea, just wish I had more time to commit to it.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

I like how there are consequences and they make big mistakes.

Sovereign Court

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I wasn't sold on it in the first episode but it is getting better and better. Especially when compared to other shows that are on, such as Defiance.


Kerney wrote:

Felt like it was notable that 'Sara' Sara seemed to have some key differences, like she was not contacted by Beth (though the criminal record might have something to do with this), is possibly the only one who can have children, and may not have been targeted until she stumbled onto Beth.

Because of those differences and others, I expect Sara will turn out to be the Original, the donor of source DNA material for the rest, and that one or both of her biological parents will have been involved in the secret cloning program from the start.

Mrs. S likely knows nothing about the secret program but is the most likely place for Sara to get information about her biological parents once we get to the point in the story where she wants to try to find out about them and the purpose behind having her cloned.

Sovereign Court

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A second season of the show has been commissioned.

Shadow Lodge

Damon Griffin wrote:
Kerney wrote:

Felt like it was notable that 'Sara' Sara seemed to have some key differences, like she was not contacted by Beth (though the criminal record might have something to do with this), is possibly the only one who can have children, and may not have been targeted until she stumbled onto Beth.

Damon Griffin wrote:
Because of those differences and others, I expect Sara will turn out to be the Original, the donor of source DNA material for the rest, and that one or both of her biological parents will have been involved in the secret cloning program from the start.

Sara being the original seems perhaps too easy. However, early escapee or something else seems more likely.

I suspect Helena may also be able breed based on her ravings in episode 4.

Damon Griffin wrote:
Mrs. S likely knows nothing about the secret program

Monitor, renegade monitor, dupe, are also possibilities.


Watched the episode last weekend. I think there is a simple reason for the clones. Someone really high-up there in some organization had them all made as part of an experiment, but really just wanted spare parts for their daughter if she were to ever get sick.

Another would be that their high-up person just wanted to give their deceased daughter a 2nd chance at life.

I know this probably ruin things for some, but writers for a series like this, where there is no planed ending, tends to not actually have a planed ending or answers though.

Sovereign Court

I wonder if we'll get this in the UK?

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

What's the British version of BBC America? USA UK????

I like how everyone keeps getting caught at stuff. It's kind of a relief from wondering how they're going to get out of it, oh yeah, here comes the really contrived deus ex machina.

Sovereign Court

We have 4 BBC tv channels and 8 national radio stations, plus the World Service and regional radio...

So we've got room for a decent show from BBC America.


Alison's going crazy-go-nuts! Also, I'm kinda starting to like Helena a little. Sara, on the other hand, will not. I do believe, however, that Kira in the Hospital will likely answer some of our questions about Sara, as well as create others. This kind of show has a habit of doing that.

Silver Crusade

I really think this is one of the better shows on tv right now. The story is pretty decent and the lead actress is amazing how she pulls off all the different roles. I really enjoy Casima and crazy clone. I found myself yelling at the tv last week at the ending. Realized I was yelling like seconds after I did it I was so upset at the ending for the week.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

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Tatiana Maslany reminds me of Enver Gjokaj from Dollhouse.

Except prettier.

But really good of playing lots and lots of different characters.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

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Much prettier indeed.

I find it funny I have to keep reminding myself that Cosima is not a different actress.


Huh. Well, obviously I guessed wrong when I thought Sarah was the original, but it looks like Tatiana Maslany is about to get yet another role to play.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Yeah, the Wikipedia page has all the clones birthdays on it.

I just don't like how the clones have the same (or highly similar) fingerprints. :-P

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

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She won the Critic's Choice Award for Best Female Lead in a Drama. :-)

Of course, she had 7 times more parts than everyone else....!!!


This actually started in the UK tonight with a double bill of the first two episodes. The BBC completely failed to advertise it at all, so I nearly missed it. Fortunately for everyone, it's on the BBC iPlayer (the catch-up service) for the next week.

I thought the first two episodes were excellent. The main actress is incredibly versatile, though the supporting cast is variable (the gay brother is okay, Maria Doyle Kennedy as the foster mother is usually brilliant in everything she does, but the partner cop is fairly cliche). The storyline is promising, but it's the pacing which really works. The show doles out questions and then answers them pretty quickly whilst also building character really well.

The only annoyance is that the series is being broadcast on BBC-3, which doesn't have a HD mirror (though it will by the time Season 2 rolls around). And for some reason the UK Blu-Ray isn't coming out until August 2014, which seems ludicrous given it's already out in the USA.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

It's gonna be on Supernatural Saturday again on BBCAmerica. :-)

Silver Crusade

Matthew Morris wrote:
I agree with Mazra, it was interesting. I will admit the side/rear nudity caught me off guard (not that it happened, but that BBC didn't fuzz it out like they did in Torchwood. Male butts vs female butts?)

They didn't fuzz out the male nudity in Torchwood here in the UK. Maybe because America goes absolutely out of their collective mind at the merest hint of nudity ('wardrobe malfunction'? Yeah, we saw your reaction over here!), but watches children being shot by other children like it's the latest episode of a reality show.

On, topic, we just got the first two episodes of Orphan Black over here. It was on BBC3, so no adverts, and the running time was 45 mins per episode. Don't know where you got the 60 mins from.


60 minutes when adverts are included, I imagine. BBC America has adverts, I think.

Silver Crusade

Werthead wrote:
60 minutes when adverts are included, I imagine. BBC America has adverts, I think.

BLASPHEMY!!!

Silver Crusade

Just watched the last two episodes of the first season.

Wow!

What do you think is up with Siobhan?

Shadow Lodge

She's angry because her name is ridiculously hard to spell, and looks nothing like it sounds.

:P

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Yeah, BBC America has commercials. :-P

Silver Crusade

Kthulhu wrote:

She's angry because her name is ridiculously hard to spell, and looks nothing like it sounds.

:P

My other PFS character is called Niamh Snowmane. Niamh is pronounced nee-uv in Ireland, or neev elsewhere.

I think the Irish are having some fun at our expense. : )

Anyway, 'Mrs. S'? What do you think that's all about, at the end of the last episode?

The Exchange

Watched the entire first season and loved it. The main actress was REALLY impressive - usually I forgot that the same women was playing all these characters, because they honestly felt like different people, with separate body language and everything.

There are some things I don't like, though. The plot seems kind of all over the place, the bad guys turned out to be pretty lame, and every single scene that included Vic was terrible (not the actors' fault, it's just that the character was forcefully shoved into the story without contributing much).

But man, that scene where the 3 good clones (science girl, Sara, Murderous Soccer Mom) were sitting together and chatting was *amazing*.


The actor playing Vic also voiced the main bad guy in FAR CRY 3, which kept making me think Vic was about to start killing everyone in sight with explosives and machine guns :)

But yeah, this was a great show, definitely the SF TV highlight of the year (though facing a decent challenge from THE RETURNED, and some of the better episodes of GAME OF THRONES S3). It had some rough spots, but the show succeeded in remaining pacy and not getting bogged down with filler (dropping characters like Allison and Art for a few episodes when they didn't have anything to do, for example) whilst servicing the plot, characterisation and the backstory all quite well. The cliffhanger was a bit of a damp squib, because they'd already done the kidnap storyline two episodes earlier and backed out of it.

As for the 'bad guys', do mean the Neolutionists or the religious nutjobs? The Neolutionists I think are not necessarily meant to be the 'bad guys', but extremely unreliable allies (a bit like Massive Dynamic in the first two seasons of FRINGE when you're not sure what their agenda is), though the patent thing does suggest they may become more antagonistic next year. Helene's bosses definitely appear to be the much greater threat at the moment.

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Season 4, episode 1 just aired on the East Coast!

:-D

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Season 4, episode 2 just aired on the East Coast.

It looks like they're saving money this season by not providing Fe with a wardrobe. :-P

Also,

Spoiler!:
Sara has one of those things!!! :-O So gross! Can they only survive in her genome? Is that why they made the Leda clones? What purpose do they serve? Or is this a "In Soviet Russia" situation?

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Is anyone else watching this?

Liberty's Edge

SmiloDan wrote:
Is anyone else watching this?

I am! Orphan Black is pretty awesome. I'm super happy with some of the little touches, as well as the bigger stuff. I recognize all of the board games in the comic shop, for instance. :)

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

I didn't watch the 2nd After Black; did they tour the Down the Rabbit Hole comic book store? I think it's real in real life.

Liberty's Edge

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SmiloDan wrote:
I didn't watch the 2nd After Black; did they tour the Down the Rabbit Hole comic book store? I think it's real in real life.

It isn't. They noted that. It's a good set and the exterior is a sign put over a real convenience store.


Love the show, plus I get to cheer for home town girl. (yea Regina, Saskatchewan)

Loveing the new flashback stuff with Beth.

Worm = not enough "Ew!" in the world to describe how much that freaks me out.

Sovereign Court

I thought the last season (3?) was not so great, so I havent been too eager to get back into it. How has the new season (4?) been so far?

Liberty's Edge

Good. Though it's only two episodes in.

Of course, I actually liked last season for the most part, so our tastes may differ.


Excellent series. They've done a good job of doing a soft reboot at the end of S3/start of S4, dropping a lot of the more complicated storytelling and some of the unnecessary extra factions and streaming stuff back to a more relatable and straightforward conflict.

Sovereign Court

Werthead wrote:
Excellent series. They've done a good job of doing a soft reboot at the end of S3/start of S4, dropping a lot of the more complicated storytelling and some of the unnecessary extra factions and streaming stuff back to a more relatable and straightforward conflict.

All right that sounds better!

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

And more Cosima!!!! :-D

RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

Season 4 was really good.

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