Mad Dog Barbarian + Urban Barbarian - Would these Archetypes Stack?


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Mad Dog - Rage (Ex): A mad dog gains this ability at 4th level,
except that her effective barbarian level for the ability is
equal to her barbarian level – 3.

Urban Barbarian - Controlled Rage (Ex)

When an urban barbarian rages, instead of making a normal rage she may apply a +4 morale bonus to her Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution. This bonus increases to +6 when she gains greater rage and +8 when she gains mighty rage. She may apply the full bonus to one ability score or may split the bonus between several scores in increments of +2. When using a controlled rage, an urban barbarian gains no bonus on Will saves, takes no penalties to AC, and can still use Intelligence-, Dexterity-, and Charisma-based skills. This ability otherwise follows the normal rules for rage.

My thought is that they wouldn't stack because they are both altering the original Rage ability. I'm actually hoping someone can prove me wrong as I would love to create a Barbarian that has a full animal companion that I send up to the front while being a Ranged Barbarian and using the Urban archetype to increase my Dex even more. My other thought as well was to go 5 levels of Gunslinger to get the dex to damage on gun attacks and then the rest Mad Dog/Urban Barbarian.

Any thoughts, as I've said, it seems like it's a no but never hurts to ask.


Bump, really would like an official answer too.


They do not stack any class feature replaced or modified by one archetype can not be modified or replaced by another archetype.


her0zbane wrote:


My thought is that they wouldn't stack because they are both altering the original Rage ability.

I fear your thoughts are right in this.

They do both change the same ability and thus RAW they don't stack. So for FPS you are out of luck.

In a home game I guess I'd allow it as a houserule. But that's another thing alltogether.


Bummer, halfling mad dog barbarian would have been so nice.

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