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So, odd situation I wanted to clarify before I report. If I run a game of first steps for 4 new players, and by new I mean super new, like new to RPGs in general. Only two liked it and decided to get some PFS numbers from me, and may join our regular games in the future. The other two vehemently expressed that I shouldn't bother with the chronicle sheets and PFS nubmers, because although they appreciated the try, they decided RPGs were not for them. All 4 played pregens. They had a good time, but it is not just for them, and I appreciate that.
Now my question is does the system allow me to report the table with one GM and 2 players, or is there a 3 player minimum. Or, since I have a sheet of 10 PFS numbers I use for walk-ins at a game day I organize, should I give those two players that have no intentions of playing again a number anyway and report it with all players?
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Would like more info on this. If I GM a game and only 3 players turn up... do I tell them to go home? Or can I still run the game with just 3 players?The Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play specifically covers this; if you only have three players, the GM can run an official pregen character to round the party out to four, but the pregen MUST be controlled by the GM, not a player.
Thanks SCPRedMage! Going to read that section again.
Venture-Captain, Alabama—Birmingham
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Legal Table Size
The minimum table size for a Pathfinder Society
Organized Play session to be considered legal is four
PCs. Table size is capped at six PCs. In cases in which
you simply cannot seat four players, you may run a table
of three players, and play an official level-appropriate
pregenerated character in order to meet the minimum
table size of four PCs
I fail to see how you could abuse the system by running tables of only 2. Even the most broken OP builds would eventually run into something they can't handle and get killed that way. Surely those combat-mongers who can solo scenarios are going to have faction mission problems. If your GM is in on it and softballing the adventure enough to not kill a 2 man group, you're going to come to a rude awakening when you play at a real table someday.
It's not like you get extra gold or boons by playing with fewer people to split. Extra danger, same rewards.
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You can never run a table with only 2 players, but you can report a table of only 2 players. By which I of course mean that you need a legal table to begin with (4 players +, or 3 players + pregen run by GM or player) but you can still report the event with only 1 or two players.
@Secane: If only 3 players show up just ask them to pick a pregen to run with. That should give you 4 "players" to round out the table.
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Venture-Captain, Alabama—Birmingham
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My response was to Avatar-1, not an endorsement of 2 man tables or griping about the rule.
I totally agree with the rule, and enforce it as a VC. But of all the rules to break and ways to cheat, I don't understand where the advantage is to break this one.
Actually I think it would be a horrible idea anyways. This is a social game and playing with less than minimum players is just burning a scenario you can never experience again.
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Never say never, there is an exception when running a home campaign of a sanctioned adventure path and receiving PFS credit.You can never run a table with only 2 players, but you can report a table of only 2 players. By which I of course mean that you need a legal table to begin with (4 players +, or 3 players + pregen run by GM or player) but you can still report the event with only 1 or two players.
@Secane: If only 3 players show up just ask them to pick a pregen to run with. That should give you 4 "players" to round out the table.
In this case, GMs running the Adventure Path are not bound to the rules of the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign
Since the GM is not bound by the rules of PFS during a home campaign of a sanctioned adventure path, legal table size does not apply and they could run the adventure path with as many or as few players/characters as they wish, they could even play all of the players and the GM themselves if they so wish, because they are not bound by the rules of PFS, though they would only receive 1 chronicle sheet.
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Would like more info on this. If I GM a game and only 3 players turn up... do I tell them to go home? Or can I still run the game with just 3 players?The Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play specifically covers this; if you only have three players, the GM can run an official pregen character to round the party out to four, but the pregen MUST be controlled by the GM, not a player.
slightly off topic
is attacking the dm's pc pvp? i once had the dm pc standing around watching me at the end of the game when i needed to do a secret mission for my faction. that character solved the problem with bluff and diplo, but not all my characters have that option. could i just take him out?
sorry no caps
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Would like more info on this. If I GM a game and only 3 players turn up... do I tell them to go home? Or can I still run the game with just 3 players?The Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play specifically covers this; if you only have three players, the GM can run an official pregen character to round the party out to four, but the pregen MUST be controlled by the GM, not a player.slightly off topic
is attacking the dm's pc pvp? i once had the dm pc standing around watching me at the end of the game when i needed to do a secret mission for my faction. that character solved the problem with bluff and diplo, but not all my characters have that option. could i just take him out?
The GM's pregen character is an NPC, but shanking a fellow Pathfinder is still a violation of the three duties. If you do this in the course of various scenarios, you tend to get a negative effect on your chronicle.
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lol it was a joke...Awww man and here I thought I was gonna run a table with NO players....Be an Overseer GM for a Special.
For those not in on the joke ...
When one of the Specials
2-SP Year of the Shadow Lodge
3-SP Blood Under Absalom
4-SP Rise of the Runecarved Key
is run, the Overseer GM gets credit for running the event by reporting them as a table with no players.