Legendarius |
I'm seriously considering this - will probably go for the $100 level tonight. I think this is going to be a great product. I'm hoping it doesn't overly advance the timeline much from the current state in Pirate's Guide to Freeport. It absolutely must be full color throughout. I loved how the color pages of the Pirate's Guide looked and it really detracted from the final product having a the black and white too. Also, please don't repeat the same cover art piece at the beginning of each chapter the way that Pirate's Guide did. I love WAR art but variety in the chapter headers is the way to go. One last thing, please do your best to have as good a binding as you can manage, say something on par with the Hackmaster books.
Been a huge fan of Freeport from the beginning when I picked up Death in Freeport at Gen Con 2000. Finally got to run it using the 5th anniversary edition and Pathfinder rules the other year. So much fun.
On a side topic, knowing this is just a Pathfinder book, any chance we'll get an AGE system companion for the new Freeport book? I really like the Dragon Age sets that GR has put out and would love that as an option too.
Pramas Head Honcho, Green Ronin |
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Hold on to your tricornes folks.... Freeport is funded!
And then some! We smashed two stretch goals this weekend, so now the book will include a poster map of the city and feature a new Wayne Reynolds cover.
We've added a lot to this Kickstarter since it began, so here's a run down of what you get at the Freeport Pirate level ($100 or more).
* You get a print and PDF copy of Freeport: The City of Adventure.
* You get all six parts of the Return to Freeport PDF adventure series as they release in 2014! This is all new material.
* You get a 28mm degenerate serpmentman miniature.
* You get a PDF of the forthcoming Dark Deeds in Freeport adventure from our friends at Kobold Press.
* You get a book plate with art by John Kovalic of Dork Tower fame and signed by Freeport creator Chris Pramas.
* You get two paper ship model PDFs from Fat Dragon Games, the medieval cog and The Sea Dragon.
* You get PDFs of the Player's Guide to Freeport and the poster map of the city.
* You get PDFs of not only the Pirate's Guide to Freeport, but also ALL the rules companions: Castles & Crusades, FATE, Pathfinder, Savage Worlds, 3rd Era, and True20.
* You get PDFs of the Fiery Dragon Counter Collection Gold, Freeport Trilogy: 5-Year Anniversary Edition, Fiery Dragon's Summoned Monster Counter Collection, and Dark Wings Over Freeport.
* Lastly, if the project funds, we will make the Freeport rules content available to ALL Pathfinder users of Hero Lab for FREE.
17 hours to go!
Pramas Head Honcho, Green Ronin |
We've got 9 hours to go and we've got a new stretch goal that should make Pathfinder fans happy. For years now we've heard that you folks want a Pathfinder version of the Advanced Bestiary. Certainly many Pathfinder publishers, including Paizo, have used it extensively in its original form.
Our (final?) stretch goal is that we will commit to doing the Advanced Bestiary for Pathfinder (likely as its own Kickstarter). To give you folks something concrete for helping to make that happen, we'll also do a new 32-page Freeport module that uses monsters created with the new Advanced Bestiary. All backers at Mariner level and up will get a PDF of the adventure for free!
This stretch goal will be unlocked at $75,000. Can we get there in 9 hours? I think that we can! Time for one final push. No sleep 'til Freeport!
TriOmegaZero |
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Unfortunately my GM is running this (well earlier editions), else I would love to get it.
I'll just point out that I gifted a copy of Shackled City to one of my players when I finished running it and had to move. He then went out to run it himself for a new group.
Christina Stiles Contributor |
Here's my plan for the Freeport AP stretch goal:
In the Year 13 Freeport Pathfinder AP, kobolds invade the City of Adventure and invoke the most vile of deities, Wolfgangunuus. They rename the city Zobeck and set 50,000 traps around their claimed treasure. No one has seen the Sea Lady since. In six adventures, you must disable EVERY trap to set her free. The series includes 50,000 new traps.
Pramas Head Honcho, Green Ronin |
So, unless this Kickstarter makes at least 75,000$, there will be no Kickstarter for a PF Advanced Bestiary? Or is only the bonus adventure tied to the stretch goal and the Advanced Bestiary will get its Kickstarter nonetheless?
An Advanced Bestiary Kickstarter is still likely even if we don't hit 75K, but you're right that we would not do the bonus Freeport adventure.
Jadeite |
An Advanced Bestiary Kickstarter is still likely even if we don't hit 75K, but you're right that we would not do the bonus Freeport adventure.
No extra adventure it seems.
I already own the 3.5 Advanced Bestiary, but one updated and expanded might still be handy.
Concerning monsters, will the new Freeport book include updates on the monsters from Creatures of Freeport?
Legendarius |
From a timelines perspective, has the timeline been advanced from the Pirate's Guide to Freeport, or is it set at the same time (just with more content and Pathfinder specific mechanics included)? I assume it at least takes place after the original Freeport trilogy.
Is there the same level/more/less of content about "the continent" and the world beyond the The Serpent's Teeth chain of islands?
Urath DM |
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Hmmm.. just got my subscriber PDF of Ultimate Campaign. It looks to me like the Downtime rules provide a lot of opportunity for the Noble class update to really make use of what is in them. The Noble gets Leadership, an Influence ability, and a means of organizing labor. Those are key elements of the downtime system.
Owen KC Stephens |
No, it didn't. Obviously we'll send it off to the printer shortly after we have the files laid out. since we don't yet know *exactly* when that is going to be we can't get a print date or ship date from the printer, so we don't know exactly how long it'll take.
We want to make sure everyone knows when the next step ism, and when to expect the first thing we'll be sending out to backers (the pdf). When we can nail down print books better (though under the best of conditions, shipping to us and then to backs is always going to be approximate) we'll send out another update. :D
Owen KC Stephens |
I absolutely understand it's annoying when products get delays. Obviously we do our best to prevent major projects from getting pushed back. Sadly it happens sometimes, and every game company experiences it occasionally.
A final delivery date isn't something we'll have until after the pdf is out to folks. I could guess how long after that we'll have print books, but at this point a wrong guess does more damage than not giving a firm date. If I say it'll be 45 days, and the printer doesn't give us the print window we think we're getting, and it's 90 days, everyone is annoyed all over again.
We've tried to keep people posted, and regular updates are definitely a reasonable thing for backers to expect. So rather than just say "We're not sure," I'm going to talk a bit about why this is so fluid.
This is a huge book with a lot of moving parts. That means the number of things that can go wrong are much, much bigger than a typical 320 page hardback. (As size increases, potential issues multiply much faster than size grows.) We've already had more than our shares of those, and as a result the estimated delivery date has been missed. During our original timeframe our founder had to unexpectedly have surgery on his spine, which obviously caused delays. I got a job offer from Paizo, and while I still have the time to devote to Green Ronin, I did have to unexpectedly move across the country. No matter how much leeway you work into a schedule, you can't account for suddenly needing spine surgery.
While the estimate for the main book was way off as things transpired, many rewards (such as the pdfs that existed as of the time of the KS funding) have already gone out. Dark Deeds in Freeport has gone out to those who pledged at the level to receive it. We certainly haven't sent out all the rewards, but the project has hit its dates with a lot of them despite the fact that the main book hasn't come out yet.
That means original print quotes and windows get missed, and that means we have to find new ones. As Chris noted in his previous update on the Kickstarter "We are getting quotes from a variety of printers but I wanted to warn you that print times can vary widely. If we can do the project at a North American printer, it shouldn't take longer than 5 weeks to print under normal circumstances. If we do it overseas, it can take up to 12 weeks due to shipping times, customs, etc. We are willing to pay a little more for speed over price, but if the disparity is large we will have to do the job overseas. I will update you about this next month when we lock down which printer we're going to use. "
The original Kickstart FAQ said we estimated the pdf for Nov 2013, and the print books 2 months later. That's a fairly typical timeframe for the steps between having a laid out book and having a print book in hand. Obviously we want to reduce that if we can, but I don't know that we can. And given how this project has run into troubles before, I'm not going to say a longer span is impossible either.
That's one of the reasons we sent backers the ashcan pdf that shows there's a finished draft. We've shown art regularly in the updates. Since things are delayed, we want to let people see progress really is being made.
So, anywhere from 5 to 12 weeks is the baseline, if nothing else goes wrong. That's a nearly 2 month span even if we only deal with foreseeable issues. Once a project has had a major delay it takes a lot more work to not have the timeline extended (leading to even further delays), rather than just pushed back. We are doing our best to accomplish that. It remains to be seen if we succeed.
Owen KC Stephens |
While that is often the case, it is not always the case. For example several of the most recent full-color Paizo books: Pathfinder Player Companion: People of the Stars and Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Technology Guide, were printed in the U.S.A., while the first Iron Gods AP was printed in China.
We don't know yet what quotes will be available when we got to print. It's one of the biggest variables, and the hardest to predict.