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I like the Chicken/Rooster at 1st level.

Playing a future Bloat Mage wizard, Thassalonian Specialist, and with his CON of 16, max HP at 1st, and his familiar, 12 HP to start is pretty sexy.

Also, it's a black rooster. His "big black c**k". I may be 43 years old, but I still giggle like a 12yo when we say that.

At 7th he'll get an Imp. Game on!

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Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.

I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)


Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.

This would get even weider by adding the Figment archetype: you'd have part of your subconsciousness splitting off, manifesting itself and actually be smarter that yourself!

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VRMH wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
This would get even weider by adding the Figment archetype: you'd have part of your subconsciousness splitting off, manifesting itself and actually be smarter that yourself!

Of course, that's because it takes the smarts with it!


One of my favorite characters was a Diabolist with 2 imps. Ichabod + Kane. Every single conversation I had with them was a small battle of wits with the dm; both of us using phrases that were technically true. After Kane betrayed me(shocker right) I replaced him with a series of bodyguard familiars each lovingly dubbed Dumb-A** I to VII. While there were many "good" times my favorite was when I used their commune ability for "Dating Advise with Asmodeus"

Silver Crusade

Well, mt favorite is the imp on a neutral character. Great mechanics and role play.
A disgusting combination is the tumor protector familiar hedgehog. +4 initiative, can take half of your damage and has fast healing 5. All for 1 feat/discovery.


williamoak wrote:


Noticed this, thought I'd mention they added a "shdow drake" for evil characters in the beastiary 4. Fits perfectly.

I was super excited about this until I saw it is not PFS legal.

My only pathfinder experience with having a familiar is my Asmodean Advocate's snake/imp. I had a lot of fun with the snake, even if it did cause a major problem in one scenario. However, in my Skulls & shackles game one of my players has a tidepool dragon. Even in book 5 that thing is causing me a lot of grief. Mostly because his shaman master is always possessing him.


Bomanz wrote:

I like the Chicken/Rooster at 1st level.

Playing a future Bloat Mage wizard, Thassalonian Specialist, and with his CON of 16, max HP at 1st, and his familiar, 12 HP to start is pretty sexy.

Also, it's a black rooster. His "big black c**k". I may be 43 years old, but I still giggle like a 12yo when we say that.

At 7th he'll get an Imp. Game on!

Is he the sin of Gluttony? If so you gotta cook up the chicken right before calling the imp.

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The correct answer is now "Eyebiter Eyeball."

Second best, if you're not playing PFS, is "Detached Hand Mauler."

Third is "Origami Mauler Flying Fox or Raven ridden around by a small level 3-4 (NOT 5+) Kami Medium.


christos gurd wrote:
mdt wrote:
Beopere wrote:


So the trick is this:
Maybe in someone's backpack. But that's about it.
putting it in a backpack is actually a listed strategy for this familiar on the boards.

So speaking of familiars in backpacks.... my character got caught in a swarm recently with his diminutive familiar on his person. "Swarm attacks are not subject to a miss chance for concealment or cover." Is a backpack enough protection or can a swarm of diminutive vermin penetrate into anything but an extra-dimensional space or possibly a familiar carrier that's had its openings sealed for full immersion? Or is even total cover negated by the swarm's quality?


Alex Mack wrote:

This is a question more than any useful advice but can people think of any useful Familiars for a Carnivalist Rogue?

The requirements would be must be small size or larger in order to be able to flank, must have a good to hit and ideally a good AC as it will actually be fighting as it gets the Rogues Sneak Attack.

I realize this post is 4 years old, but the thread has already been necroed so might as well note this build

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2u4z5?Is-mauler-familiar-a-requirement-for-comb at#12


Pathfinder needs a grimalkin.


John Mechalas wrote:
Pathfinder needs a grimalkin.

A grey cat? In what way doesn't it have one?

Dark Archive

I'm a huge fan of the Ioun Wyrd. Such a shame PFS doesn't allow them. Imagine all the shenanigans that could ensue just because the thing found one of the dreaded inky black ioun stones while wandering through the lodge unchecked.

My first familiar ever was a turtle. I had originally wanted the blue ringed octopus for the bonus to swim checks and my GM had this sickness that compelled him to make us get on the effing boat. However, he didn't want to have to take a half-elf wizard with an octopus clinging to his face seriously, and he let me use a turtle with the tortoise's stats and the octopus's swim bonus. The party gets feebleminded except for the gnome magus and the dwarven barbarian, go figure. The gnome beseeches the paladins' deity at their temple-city, and one of the clerics agrees to break the enchantment. My wizard is so grateful to Iomedae he donates 7000 gold to the church, but he later discovers his turtle got feebleminded as well! A druid had diagnosed this after we had left the city-temple, so no breaking of the enchantments for the turtle. When the G.M. starts making the turtle sound like a Pokemon voiced by Dana Carvey, it's time to end that bond.


avr wrote:
John Mechalas wrote:
Pathfinder needs a grimalkin.
A grey cat? In what way doesn't it have one?

The 3.5 grimalkin is a magical beast and shapeshifter that can talk, whose natural form is a grey cat. It's an amalgamation of Scottish legend, old stories about talking cats, and traditional legends of witchcraft and familiars.

It first appeared in the MMII. It's actually quite a fun little creature, described as adopting the personality of its owner/master, changing forms for amusement, and being rather chatty.

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Familiar Stories!

• I swear I won't do it, but I'm really tempted to use my Horticulturalist Alchemist to get an Arbiter Inevitable...with the Plant subtype. Go ahead and read the "electrical burst" ability. Plants are immune to stun. 10-ft burst of 3d6 damage every round is pretty good!

• Also I love the Tuned Bowstring. It lets a bard effectively shoot an arrow instead of using a round of bardic music. But many Bardic Music is effective outside of combat so how do you justify shooting a bow all the time? Make it part of the act! Get a familiar with DR or Deflect Arrows and shoot it every round. Heck, have it hold up a target or put apples on its head...or catch the arrows and return them to you so you can shoot them again!

• Oracle 1/Sorcerer 4/Mystic Theurge 11: The Pipefox is an amazing familiar. Being Tiny with Squeeze means it can get anywhere. Vanish 3/day is really useful. But the best part is the Augury and Divination with daily uses and no costly components. Makes GM's dread long travel scenes as they quickly turn into games of 20 questions.

• Magical Child Vigilante 5/Evangelist 6: Her parrot "peepers". She believes its an avatar of Besmara sent to make her the Princess of all Pirates. In character intros, it goes "Rawk! Hail Besmara!". Eventually turned into an Air Elemental, the only Familiar able to use this monocle that lets it use scrolls. (The monocle explicitly doesn't resize.)

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a small character with a greensting mauler scorpion
(or a medium one with the feat undersized mount)

the scorpion give nice benefits and being able to use it as a mount is badass ^^


Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)

Doesn't work as far as I can tell. Elemental Whispers and its Greater version don't allows for the Chuspiki. :(


Azten wrote:
Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)
Doesn't work as far as I can tell. Elemental Whispers and its Greater version don't allows for the Chuspiki. :(

Their idea doesn't require a chuspiki, and actually a chuspiki would probably be better as the familiar of a bloodrager or something. Full BAB on a scaling kinetic blast.


That... that is wonderful. Now how to get one as a paladin or cleric...


Not the best but one of my favorites...

Had a cat familiar I "polymorph any object" perminantly into a wayang. I would buy him riding cats. When we needed another frontliner I cast transformation on him.

Silver Crusade

I'm a huge fan of the Chosen One archetype for paladins. I play one in PFS, started with a thrush familiar, so it could talk from level 1. That's very helpful when the familiar has knowledge: religion and the paladin doesn't. The ability to cast Guidance all day has been useful, and the "Lay on Paws" from a bird that zips around the battlefield isn't something I'll do often, but it has saved other PC's lives twice. And then at level 7, he "revealed his true form" as a Harbinger Archon, so now he has constant Detect Evil and Truespeak. Nuff said.

As for other familiars, I have a gnome illusionist with a skunk familiar. I've only hit level 2 so far and part of that was GM credits, so I've only played him once. I basically have the skunk ready its stink attack against any enemy that comes within range of us, every single round. Haven't needed it yet, but it'll pay off eventually. Also, the skunk has the Decoy archetype, so he'll be able to speak and impersonate the wizard eventually. That'll be fun, especially since I took a trait to make bluff a class skill, and my wizard trains it every level.

Someone upthread mentioned wanting a divine caster with a familiar. I have a druid with the Monkey domain, which grants a monkey familiar. Both the familiar and level 1 domain power give bonuses to acrobatics, and I took a trait to get acrobatics as a class skill. My druid is a front liner who does two weapon fighting with both ends of a shillalegh quarterstaff. Because of the Nature's Fang archetype, he'll get a sneak attack at level 4, so being able to acrobatics around to get flanks will be useful. And let's face it: monkeys are just fun.

I'll also mention the rabbit familiar. Most people go for the scorpion for a +4 initiative on a familiar they can shove in their pocket and forget about. Rabbits give the same bonus, but they're cuter. I have one on my "cheerleader witch". She's a cute teenage girl who does buff/healing hexes, along with the typical debuffing spells. She has her "cute widdle bunny wabbit" bite people to give them the Scar hex, so she can use the buff/heal hexes on them from up to a mile away. Great for fluff, even if it doesn't really add much mechanically (besides the +4 init).


My fave of the +4 init familiars is the compsognathus. Share spells a disguise self and it can look like any other lizard easily.


No mage in any of my 30+ years of campaigns has ever used a familiar. They just don't want to keep up with the extra bookkeeping.

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avr wrote:
Azten wrote:
Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)
Doesn't work as far as I can tell. Elemental Whispers and its Greater version don't allows for the Chuspiki. :(
Their idea doesn't require a chuspiki, and actually a chuspiki would probably be better as the familiar of a bloodrager or something. Full BAB on a scaling kinetic blast.

Not sure why you would think you need a chuspiki for this...all you need is to use the sage archetype on whatever familiar you take...The one I am going to use for my earth kineticist is going to be a hedgehog (and since the elemental whispers talent says they are made of your chosen element, mine is going to look something like: This :)


I was confusing posts.


Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
avr wrote:
Azten wrote:
Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)
Doesn't work as far as I can tell. Elemental Whispers and its Greater version don't allows for the Chuspiki. :(
Their idea doesn't require a chuspiki, and actually a chuspiki would probably be better as the familiar of a bloodrager or something. Full BAB on a scaling kinetic blast.
Not sure why you would think you need a chuspiki for this...all you need is to use the sage archetype on whatever familiar you take...The one I am going to use for my earth kineticist is going to be a hedgehog (and since the elemental whispers talent says they are made of your chosen element, mine is going to look something like: This :)

cuz the chuspiki gets the scaling blast attack other familiars don't


Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
avr wrote:
Azten wrote:
Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)
Doesn't work as far as I can tell. Elemental Whispers and its Greater version don't allows for the Chuspiki. :(
Their idea doesn't require a chuspiki, and actually a chuspiki would probably be better as the familiar of a bloodrager or something. Full BAB on a scaling kinetic blast.
Not sure why you would think you need a chuspiki for this...all you need is to use the sage archetype on whatever familiar you take...The one I am going to use for my earth kineticist is going to be a hedgehog (and since the elemental whispers talent says they are made of your chosen element, mine is going to look something like: This :)

My geokineticist has a hedgehog himself. She's his delicate little anthodite.

Are you sure Sage works well with Elemental Whispers, though? I expect table variation on whether the familiar can make Knowledge checks while not manifested, never mind communicating the results to the kineticist. And while manifested, you lose the Alertness feat. Since the Sage archetype replaces Alertness, is it even legal for a non-Greater whisper?


KitsuneWarlock wrote:

Familiar Stories!

Eventually turned into an Air Elemental, the only Familiar able to use this monocle that lets it use scrolls. (The monocle explicitly doesn't resize.)

What Monocle? Do you mean Eldritch Scholar Monocle


I am fond of the idea of a Tumor Protector Familiar. +2 AC (kind of), and Shield Other offset by Fast Healing 5.

I've been wanting to try a Small Character who with levels in Eldritch Guardian and uses a Mauler Bat Familiar. The character will Ride the Bat like a Flying Mount, and will have lots of potential for Feat synergies.


Aether elemental, hands down. They've got flight, telekinesis, elemental immunities, blindsense, and natural invisibility. What more could you possibly want? Bonus points if you're a beast-bonded witch and possess your familiar through Twin Soul.


Small sized Magical Child Vigilante on a Mauler Pyrausta dragon. 3rd level dragon rider!

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I had a blink dog (actually played as a golden retriever lab mix that would fetch things and play chase the dog)
I had a moon cat named Schroedinger, and it thought outside the box.
After those I had a psuedodragon ((Erlynmeyer) that came out of a thin blue staple bound book with a dragon on the cover. He did do some rather interesting things, like steal the opposing casters wand out of their hand. Use said wand on opposing caster's imp familiar.
Another psuedodragon ((Florence) to sit on the disk of treasure that followed me. Shared MY treasure with a baby red dragon ((Kalkrix) on yet another disk that followed so as the joke goes "I had a towed dragon array"
And the last one, "Absolutely no dragons allowed in my world" , ok Mr. GM, how do you feel about lizards. Lizards are fine. Can they have wings? okay they can have wings, but, no breath weapons. [I get in trouble a lot.] How do you feel about a blinking ghecko shocker lizard with wings? Lemme think about it. Ok you can have it. So Ghoti pronounced fish got to be a 3rd level Arcanist Brown Fur Transmuter wordcaster, and convinced the dragons to come back.
I am choosing a new familiar for yet another caster, we shall see....


Sleet Storm wrote:

Greensting Scorpion .

+4 Initiative, Alertness.

What it does? Sits on your shoulder and gives you awesome bonuses.

Compsognathus, dodo, and hare all provide that same bonus to initiative. Though the greensting scorpion does offer the best portability out of the lot.

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shaventalz wrote:
Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
avr wrote:
Azten wrote:
Kemuri Kunoichi wrote:
Taenia wrote:
I have a Kineticist with elemental whispers for a Sage familiar. He is smarter than my Kineticist and has all the Knowledge skills. He has speak with master so I refer to him as the voice in my head that tells me things, the other character always step away when he says that.
I love this idea...I have a Kineticist who I was planning on taking Elemental Whispers with...I think I might use the Sage archetype for it after reading this :)
Doesn't work as far as I can tell. Elemental Whispers and its Greater version don't allows for the Chuspiki. :(
Their idea doesn't require a chuspiki, and actually a chuspiki would probably be better as the familiar of a bloodrager or something. Full BAB on a scaling kinetic blast.
Not sure why you would think you need a chuspiki for this...all you need is to use the sage archetype on whatever familiar you take...The one I am going to use for my earth kineticist is going to be a hedgehog (and since the elemental whispers talent says they are made of your chosen element, mine is going to look something like: This :)

My geokineticist has a hedgehog himself. She's his delicate little anthodite.

Are you sure Sage works well with Elemental Whispers, though? I expect table variation on whether the familiar can make Knowledge checks while not manifested, never mind communicating the results to the kineticist. And while manifested, you lose the Alertness feat. Since the Sage archetype replaces Alertness, is it even legal for a non-Greater whisper?

Elemental Whispers: "The element speaks back to you empathically, like a familiar."

Knowledge checks: "Action: Usually none. In most cases, a Knowledge check doesn’t take an action"

Sounds to me like the default state for a familiar of this type is a voice in your head, speaking is generally a free action. and making knowledge checks generally does not require an action...I don't know why anyone would have a problem with you asking the voice in your head a question in most situations.


Had a tumor familiar for my alchemist. I loved that tumor.

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