Bard lame questions


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Ok, so to be sure
1. How many times per 24 h bard can prepare spells ? It is possible to rest 8 hours, prepare spells, use all slots to healing spells, and immediately rest another 8 h to gain benefit of new pool of spells?

2.Bard has a whip in one hand. Im move action , he is drawing a dagger, then ,as a standard action, attack with whip/perform combat maneuver. Assuming that he only perform one attack while wielding two weapons,should be attack with full bonus , or be treated as TWF and apllying penalty for wielding two weapons?


1. It is spells per day, not spells per rest period.

2. If I were GMing I would say that the whip attack takes no penalty. It's a one-handed weapon, holding a small object - weapon or otherwise - shouldn't affect its use as long as the other object isn't being used. However, since he was already holding the whip then I would assume that the dagger is now in his off hand and any future attacks with the dagger take a penalty unless he drops the whip and switches hands first.


Herbatnik wrote:
1. How many times per 24 h bard can prepare spells ?

Bards don't prepare spells. Like other spellcasters, a bard can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day.

See Sorcerers and Bards in the magic chapter.

Herbatnik wrote:
2.Bard has a whip in one hand. Im move action , he is drawing a dagger, then ,as a standard action, attack with whip/perform combat maneuver. Assuming that he only perform one attack while wielding two weapons,should be attack with full bonus , or be treated as TWF and apllying penalty for wielding two weapons?

The only time TWF penalties apply is if you get an extra attack during a full-attack.

If your BAB is +6, you can attack with the whip (at BAB+6) and then the dagger (at BAB+1) and that's not two-weapon fighting. See This FAQ for more information.

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There is no handedness in Pathfinder. The two-weapon fighting penalties only apply if you take an extra attack with the second weapon. In this example, the character can take an AOO with the dagger if someone came close enough to provoke and would not take the two-weapon fighting penalties. See this FAQ entry.


So, to be clear- bard/sorcerer gain benefit from "preparing" spellslots only once per 24h ? If it possible I would like to see clear ruling in this case.

Thanks guys for answers to question number two.


Herbatnik wrote:
So, to be clear- bard/sorcerer gain benefit from "preparing" spellslots only once per 24h ? If it possible I would like to see clear ruling in this case.

Daily Readying of Spells: "Each day, sorcerers and bards must focus their minds on the task of casting their spells. A sorcerer or bard needs 8 hours of rest (just like a wizard), after which she spends 15 minutes concentrating. (A bard must sing, recite, or play an instrument of some kind while concentrating.) During this period, the sorcerer or bard readies her mind to cast her daily allotment of spells. Without such a period to refresh herself, the character does not regain the spell slots she used up the day before."

Spells: "Like other spellcasters, a bard can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day. His base daily spell allotment is given on Table: Bard. In addition, he receives bonus spells per day if he has a high Charisma score (see Table: Ability Modifiers and Bonus Spells)."

"A bard need not prepare his spells in advance. He can cast any spell he knows at any time, assuming he has not yet used up his allotment of spells per day for the spell's level."


Herbatnik wrote:

So, to be clear- bard/sorcerer gain benefit from "preparing" spellslots only once per 24h ? If it possible I would like to see clear ruling in this case.

Thanks guys for answers to question number two.

Bards are spontaneous casters; they do not 'prepare' spells. The term 'prepare' has a specific meaning; a 'prepared' spell caster must spend an hour each morning to actually memorize the spells she wants to cast for the day, while a spontaneous caster does not have any such restriction (but generally can cast fewer spells per day and knows fewer spells.

From the Bard class information:

Bard - Spells wrote:


A bard casts arcane spells drawn from the bard spell list. He can cast any spell he knows without preparing it ahead of time. Every bard spell has a verbal component (singing, reciting, or music). To learn or cast a spell, a bard must have a Charisma score equal to at least 10 + the spell level. The Difficulty Class (DC) for a saving throw against a bard’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the bard’s Charisma modifier.

Like other spellcasters, a bard can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day. His base daily spell allotment is given on Table: bard. In addition, he receives bonus spells per day if he has a high Charisma score...

...A bard need not prepare his spells in advance. He can cast any spell he knows at any time, assuming he has not yet used up his allotment of spells per day for the spell’s level.

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