So when it came out I bought the Dungens & Dragons cartoon box set. In it was a mini book that stated out all of the characters including Venger, i began thinking of working him into my Eberron game. Now that my group has made the move to pathfinder I was thinking of trying it again maybe as the force behind the old G series adventures after they finish the Rise of the rune lords AP. But I was strugling with what Rune Lord he would be, if one at all as he is a half-fiend. If I do this I want to drop the hint at some point in the AP that some one is pulling Karzoug's strings for something bigger.
Any help would be great
Well, you could always stat him as an 'unknown' Runelord, since it's established that in some cases the ones we know and love replaced previous incumbents of the role - ie,
I'm doing something similar with a long term villain in my own campaign, which will explain how he ended up powerless and expelled to another world.
My understanding is that all of the Runelords were wizards. Venger is a sorcerer. Maybe, in this case, Arcane?
Whatever form he ends up taking will have to have a very high strength score to be able to carry his wingless horse between his legs as he flies.
My understanding is that all of the Runelords were wizards. Venger is a sorcerer. Maybe, in this case, Arcane?In the days of first edition, when the cartoon was made, sorcerer and wizard were titles for a magic-user.
True but in the boxed set that the OP was referring to, he was stated as a sorcerer.
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Whatever form he ends up taking will have to have a very high strength score to be able to carry his wingless horse between his legs as he flies.
Thigh master of giant strength?
anyway, he's riding a nightmare, which is a wingless horse that flies.
True but in the boxed set that the OP was referring to, he was stated as a sorcerer.My understanding is that all of the Runelords were wizards. Venger is a sorcerer. Maybe, in this case, Arcane?In the days of first edition, when the cartoon was made, sorcerer and wizard were titles for a magic-user.
sorcerer makes sense, TBH, he seems to blast the same spells over and over.
Wasn't Venger
Spoiler:Dungeon Master's Son? My guess is that he went evil because he wanted to overthrow his father and run things himself
If that is the case, I would go for Venger being the Rune lord of Pride or Greed
Then he would be waiting for his father(Karzoug) to fail or the adventures to kill him...I would need a way to explain his absence from the world as well. To state that they both where stasis would be lame.
As my plan is to bounce Rise of the Runelords into Against the Giant, replacing the Drow feature with Venger. I need somthing with an Epic feel to it.
sorcerer makes sense, TBH, he seems to blast the same spells over and over.True but in the boxed set that the OP was referring to, he was stated as a sorcerer.My understanding is that all of the Runelords were wizards. Venger is a sorcerer. Maybe, in this case, Arcane?In the days of first edition, when the cartoon was made, sorcerer and wizard were titles for a magic-user.
He had levels in Archmage as well.
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IF I remember there was one episode of the D&D cartoon, where Venger had some sort of master that he called into that world that began destroying things. It was his job to take over etc.
Perhaps Venger was on one of the other planets perhaps Eox.......laying in a plan for a triumphant return. Perhaps the PCs are the instruments he used to remove the obstacles to his rise to power Namely Kurzug.......lots of possibilities.
For making Venger a renegade runelord, you could make him a divination specialist. The Runelord of Despair or some such, who founded his own school of magic (or is a universalist) to spite the hierarchy of sin magic.
I think he should be the runelord of fighting PCs with no dang weapons.
Venger really was a cool bad guide especially with Peter Cullin's voice. Day of the Dungeon Master and the Dragon's Graveyard are among the best episodes.
so can someone explain why the cavalier finds a vorpal sword, gets scared by it and LEAVES it laying on the ground???
Venger should have just killed him for that alone!
LOL.Because as a cartoon they could not show Erik chopping off people's heads?
So here are my thoughts as to how I see this.
Karzoug sires a son with Demon lord Nocticula, the child is named Venger. Before the fall of the Thassilonian Empire Venger took leave from his father and went to his mothers side where he stayed through the earth fall and the age of darkness. As his mothers agent he worked closely with a few Drow houses and was witness to the dark plans they had. Venger Used the Drow house that took his mother as patron to move his own Drow agents into position so that he could take control of the House Azrinae's grand scheme to smite there surface elf cousins. It was during this time Venger became aware that his father had awaken from stasis and was beginning plans of his own for a return to power. Venger moved Drow agents from House Misraria into action getting giants to gather just outside of his fathers sphere of influence, so that if his father where to fail venger's army of giants would be ready to pick up the pieces. Now all that was left to do was to let the Drow of House Azrinae strike at Kyonin but not plunge the world into a second Age of Darkness...and ether rush to his fathers aid or plunge the dagger into his fathers back and become the new Runelord of Greed.
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I never watched the cartoon, but when I think of Venger, I think of this. LOL
I never watched the cartoon, but when I think of Venger, I think of this. LOL
LOL
Guys, I actually HAVE much about Venger himself, and many of the rest of the characters. See, once upon a time, I bought the cartoon in a fancy box, came with a miniature silver dragon. It came with a little book, which sorta translated the characters into 3rd ed. Just like the OP.
If you guys are interested, I can help. However, as it's been awhile since this thread was active, I don't know if anyone is still following it. Therefore, privately message me, and I shall return. I seem to be good at translating movie/tv characters into game stats.
In case you are curious, I am also trying to create the He Man characters in Pathfinder, and also Conan the Barbarian. Those threads are in Homebrew.
When I was into 4e, I had statted venger up as a cambion.
http://www.dlnexus.com/fan/rules/character/20820.aspx