Nice beard you have there, ma'am.


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Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

I'm not a dwarf, and never have been. But I support dwarves. Icons of fantasy, bearers of axes and hammers and horns full of ale.

And bearded womenfolk.

Will PFO embrace dwarfishness, and put whiskers on the ladies (as is only proper?).

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I support whatever Golarion says on the matter, given that's the setting.

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From Dwarves:

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Male and female dwarves pride themselves on the long length of their hair, and men often decorate their beards with a variety of clasps and intricate braids. Clean-shavenness on a male dwarf is a sure sign of madness, or worse—no one familiar with their race trusts a beardless dwarven man.

Sounds to me like only Dwarven males have beards.

Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

Don't let your elven sensitivities cloud your mind Ni. That quote clearly leaves wide open the potential for dwarven femmestaches or ladygoaties. Porkchop sideburns? only if they're braided.


I have to admit, while I've grown up on bearded women in alot of the books I've read, I do like the depictions in recent years of the curvacious feminine dwarf. I think that both are viable, and in fact, alluded to such a situation for a female dwarf serving in armies in my writing. she grows her beard out to look more like 'one of the guys' to enemies, but she finds a guy she likes....out comes the razor and viola!

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...no one familiar with their race trusts a beardless dwarven man.

As well they shouldn't! But why limit this to dwarves?

Silver Crusade Goblin Squad Member

To make this easy, Golaron and indeed Dwarves in any of the big D&D settings do not have beards.
If you want bearded dwarfs, I can recommend the Discworld.

Goblin Squad Member

Well, in Tolkien's world even the female dwarves have beards and there would be no D&D settings without Tolkien. ;)

Silver Crusade

Thank God Golarion isn't Tolkien then!

Paizo crew have repeatedly stated that female dwarves don't have beards and James Jacobs has said it'll never happen on his watch.

Hold the line, JJ!


I believe Paizo has made it clear that the female Dwarves of Golarion do NOT have beards.

Given the MMO is going to take place in Golarion, there's no chance for bearded lady dwarves there.

Silver Crusade

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It should be noted however that this should not deter any female dwarves from being beards if they so wish.


I think it'd be rather hard carrying a full grown dwarven woman hanging from my face as I adventure....

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Icyshadow wrote:

I believe Paizo has made it clear that the female Dwarves of Golarion do NOT have beards.

Given the MMO is going to take place in Golarion, there's no chance for bearded lady dwarves there.

"Roll up, roll up!! Get yer fake-beards and facial-hair accessories here! All you want for glamming up for a night out on the town!!

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Nihimon wrote:

From Dwarves:

Quote:
Male and female dwarves pride themselves on the long length of their hair, and men often decorate their beards with a variety of clasps and intricate braids. Clean-shavenness on a male dwarf is a sure sign of madness, or worse—no one familiar with their race trusts a beardless dwarven man.
Sounds to me like only Dwarven males have beards.

Well, that confirms it. Women are, by definition, mad!

Scarab Sages Goblin Squad Member

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I am sick and tired of all this persecution of the Ouat clan and our honored traditions in service to Osirion. In our search for perfection we cut away all distractions and leave our compact and powerful frames clean of all hair. When will out brother see the simple truth that beards, body, and even the hair on your heads is an anchor drowning you in a sea of impurity.

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((This was written in another context, in a game long ago, but hardly forgotten... ))

The Bearded Lady Song

Me lasses beard is soft as snow,
It warms me face and tickles below,
Her fine whiskers be a gift, don't ye know,
Slung o'er her shoulder an tied in a bow!

A bearded lady is fine!
Her kisses much more sublime,
When her chin is all hairy,
I sing loud and merry,
The Bearded Lady is Mine...

Me sweet lass kin hold her ale,
She drinks it down by the pail,
And when men and elves have fallen
"Another Round!" she'll be callin...

A bearded lady is fine!
Her kisses much more sublime,
When her chin is all hairy,
I sing loud and merry,
The Bearded Lady is Mine...

Me lass wields a great bloody axe,
She relishes each of her smacks,
Best not be makin smooth-faced cracks
Lest ye want ta feel her hairy whacks!

A bearded lady is fine!
Her kisses much more sublime,
When her chin is all hairy,
I sing loud and merry,
The Bearded Lady is Mine...

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Oh, and I also invoked a dwarven courtship ritual, known as "the Braiding"... involving weaving together the beards of both as a test of patience and honor. Kind of like the idea of "bundling" betrothed people or sleeping with a sword between. ;-)


Try to give an honest compliment to someone's mustache. Suddenly she tells me we're not friends anymore. /exasperated

Grand Lodge Goblin Squad Member

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Golarion also has spaceships, werewolves, pirates, furries and slimies of all sorts, bird men, pirates, plane-touched player characters, ninjas, and pirates.

I'm just sayin'. Every other fantasy itch seems to be scratched.

In all seriousness I love the world and respect the creator's decisions, this is just something that has stuck with me since reading the LOTR trilogy when I was a kid. Immortal elves? pretty much. Hairy footed halflings? check. Nasty, mean orcses? Indeed. Wizards, undead, scary forests, powerful magic, ale, dragons, exiled kings, YES!

But not a hair on her chinny chin chin? Really? :)

Goblin Squad Member

One of my various max level characters in WoW was Fanndis, a priest and healer of great reknown (in our guild at least!). I do not see the priest archetype in Pathfinder, but a Cleric will do, and she could weild a hammer as well as any male, be he Dwarf or otherwise. And a healer she shall be. Fanndis Goldbraid....and she willn't be braidin' her hair with anyone for quite some time.

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The Shameless One wrote:
Well, in Tolkien's world even the female dwarves have beards and there would be no D&D settings without Tolkien. ;)

That is highly debatable. Tolkien stated that the dwarf women looked like the men but may have just meant body shape, short stocky with no discernable figure. Aragorn at some stage also jokes about it. Many people think its actually unlikely Tolkien meant them to have full beards.

The idea of dwarven women having beards and being indistinguishable from dwarven men started as a joke by Terry Pratchett back in the '90s and has somehow developed a life of its own and now been accepted as "proper" dwarf lore.

Its a little like the way younger generations have accepted the Underworld franchise versions of vampires as the "correct" versions (as opposed to Dracula types, D&D versions or the ones that twinkle in sunlight).

Goblin Squad Member

I disagree.. if Tolkien said that female dwarves looks like male dwarves then it means that both genders have beards.

And I see nothing wrong with that, if you want a pretty female then there are the human and elven races to choose from.

Goblin Squad Member

Those beardless humans and elves. What's pretty about them? Elves can't grow a beard in 1,000 years. Weak bloodlines I say.

Goblin Squad Member

Neadenil Edam wrote:
The Shameless One wrote:
Well, in Tolkien's world even the female dwarves have beards and there would be no D&D settings without Tolkien. ;)

That is highly debatable. Tolkien stated that the dwarf women looked like the men but may have just meant body shape, short stocky with no discernable figure. Aragorn at some stage also jokes about it. Many people think its actually unlikely Tolkien meant them to have full beards.

The idea of dwarven women having beards and being indistinguishable from dwarven men started as a joke by Terry Pratchett back in the '90s and has somehow developed a life of its own and now been accepted as "proper" dwarf lore.

Did Dwarf women have beards?.

That seems to be a fairly well-sourced document.

Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

And once again Nihimon proves to be the ultimate authority on, well, everything! :)


I quote Dungeons and Dragons on this matter. : An elf? The problem with elves is they aint got no meat on ther bones. You gatta get a nice 360libs dwarf EH, hair on her chin you can hang on too! Eh Eh?, Ahh.

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