Grappling


Rules Questions


Situation:

Boar, the friend of Druidboy 2000, has AC27.
The party encounters trolls, who can barely scratch our Boar.

Troll decides to grapple it, and succeeds.
Boar tries to break free, but fails.
Troll maintains (+5) and pins the boar.
Boar tries to break free, but fails.
/pause/

Troll has the grappled condition, and takes -4DEX to his AC.
Boar has the grappled condition, taking a -4DEX.
Boar also has the pinned condition, being denied his DEX bonus and taking an [additional] -4 to AC.

Q1: Boar "loses" the -4DEX, and gets the "no DEX bonus". This could prove to be in his favour?
Q2: Boar is now pinned, and "can take verbal and mental actions". So basically at the mercy of his grappler?
Q3: Troll doesn't have to make an attack roll, since the "damage" is part of his maintaining?

Outcome:
Troll can damage with one (?) natural (light) attack as long as he maintains (with a +5) the grapple against the little piggy.

Piggy has a -4 AC aaaand no DEX bonus against anyone standing free of the grapple?

Can I get some YESSES, peeps?


Dude with 20 AC, and DEX 10

Grappled > 18 AC (-4 dex)
Pinned > 16 AC (-4 AC and no dex bonus)

Correct?


Bump.. am i not the only who is unsure?


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Rickmeister wrote:

Dude with 20 AC, and DEX 10

Grappled > 18 AC (-4 dex)
Pinned > 16 AC (-4 AC and no dex bonus)

Correct?

Pinned creatures are still grappled and still suffer those effects in addition to any from being pinned. Also, "denied dex bonus" doesn't mean that you just ignore Dex effect to AC. It means you ignore bonuses (i.e. positive modifiers) from Dex. Any penalties due to low Dex are still in effect. So the effective 6 Dex from the grappled condition still imparts a -2 to AC.

So your 20 AC, 10 Dex character would be 14 AC when pinned.

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