Adopted Trait

[MrJello]

Instead of getting a flat +1 will save trait, would it not be better to get more wisdom using the adopted trait??

I assume that i can use the Vanars +2 dex +2 wisdom -2 char instead?

That would put me at only 5 charisma but that is not that bad is it?

Only been playing for a few weeks btw :)

Thanks for all the help and speedy replies in advance!

[KatoCha04]

Adopted doesn't let you take those kind of abilities.

Try Here

[Seranov]

It would, however, let you take Adopted: Dwarf (Glory of Old) for +1 vs. poison, spells and spell-like abilities.

...I think.

-e-

Nope, nevermind. A shame!

[MrJello]

Seranov wrote:

It would, however, let you take Adopted: Dwarf (Glory of Old) for +1 vs. poison, spells and spell-like abilities.

...I think.

-e-

Nope, nevermind. A shame!

dont see it on the list kato linked :(

[Seranov]

Yeah, it doesn't count. I guess it has to be a specific type of race trait (and not a racial trait, either) to work.

[Stockvillain]

I had the exact same issue with one of my players; he insisted that Darkvision was a valid racial trait to take with the "Adopted" trait. He was wrong.

The Adopted Trait allows you to select one Trait from the specific Race section of the Traits list for your adopted race. You still must meet any pre-requisites. In order to take the Dwarf Race Trait that gives you a +1 bonus on your magic-related saves, you'd still have to have the Hardy racial ability of the Dwarf race.

Now, the Racial Heritage feat allows you to count as the selected race for purposes of spells, feats, magic items, and such. You must still meet any pre-requisites, though. For example, you still don't have the Hardy racial ability, so you can't take the Steel Soul feat.

[blackbloodtroll]

It is simple.

Adopted gives you a Race trait, not a Racial trait.

They are quite different.

[Ascalaphus]

Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make. The naming of race and racial traits is unfortunate writing.