Theory on how to stop the repeating item madness


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RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral

Ok, disclaimer 1st I am not a programer this is just based off of observation and theory.

Premise: since the system is ranking items it needs data no mattter what thus you aren't voting on an item exactly you are simply voting on an items rank.

This implies that the more often you hit vote neither when presented with 2 terrible items the more likely you'll keep seeing those terrible items. This is because there is not enough data on the bad items.

So when you see to bad items really you must choose or the system program will keep kicking it back until it ranks somewhere.

Example: The Walkie Talkie Coins vs The Overly Complicated Swiss Army Knife

IF you go vote for neither, the system still doesn't know how to rank them it needs more data.

If you vote for say the Walkie Talkie Coins then at least the system knows that they beat out the OCSAK and might let you move on from that though it will still likely want to know where the OCSAK ranks and present it again against other items.

I've been working off that and seeing less repeats

RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 7, Star Voter Season 8 aka Isaac Duplechain

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I vote every time, and I'm seeing the same two dozen items pop up in about half of the pairs I get.

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Isaac Duplechain wrote:
I vote every time, and I'm seeing the same two dozen items pop up in about half of the pairs I get.

Yeah, but I think the issue is that if a lot of other people are hitting neither on pairings with those same two dozen items, then they're going to keep popping up. That's why I just grit my teeth and keep trying to rank one above the other. Someone has to get that data in the system, so I guess it may as well be me.

This is part of how I'm trying to convince myself it's a good thing that I haven't seen my item yet, too. Clearly it's so awesome that everyone who sees it votes for it, so it doesn't get kicked back as often. ...Right?

...Right?

...Bueller?

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No, I think you're right, and I am never ever using the neither button. In any event, it seems better to me tonight than it did last night, though I'm still seeing some of the same items - and I just got my first few 4x repeats in the past hour.

Time to call it a night, I think.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 , Dedicated Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Dedicated Voter Season 8, Star Voter Season 9

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agirlnamedbob wrote:
Isaac Duplechain wrote:
I vote every time, and I'm seeing the same two dozen items pop up in about half of the pairs I get.

Yeah, but I think the issue is that if a lot of other people are hitting neither on pairings with those same two dozen items, then they're going to keep popping up. That's why I just grit my teeth and keep trying to rank one above the other. Someone has to get that data in the system, so I guess it may as well be me.

This is part of how I'm trying to convince myself it's a good thing that I haven't seen my item yet, too. Clearly it's so awesome that everyone who sees it votes for it, so it doesn't get kicked back as often. ...Right?

...Right?

...Bueller?

I think you're right. That's what I keep saying to myself when after a few hundred clicks I've seen certain items 5-6 times and haven't seen mine yet.

OR if everyone thought my item was so horrible that it's been consistently voted against. :D But I think that's quite unlikely if you've followed the judges' advice on formatting, auto-rejects and so on.

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Mikko Kallio wrote:
OR if everyone thought my item was so horrible that it's been consistently voted against. :D But I think that's quite unlikely if you've followed the judges' advice on formatting, auto-rejects and so on.

Shhhh... Don't say that! :P

True story, though, I tried to follow all the advice I was offered, so hopefully it helped. Glad to hear I'm not the only one thinking this way.

And here I am again on a string of items I JUST voted on...

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I saw my item in the fifth or sixth pairing, and then have never seen it again, yet I see items I've voted down show up five or six times now, and some pairings repeated. It's difficult to continue onward without getting bored or tired of the wait...

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What annoys me is when I've voted against a particular item and it still keeps appearing, like a clingy ex.

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Sulaco wrote:
What annoys me is when I've voted against a particular item and it still keeps appearing, like a clingy ex.

You need to tell it, firmly, that no means NO.

RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral

I really think it will keep appearing until its voted on. Until it ranks somewhere. Usually for me those items finally get a vote when they appear next to another "clingy ex." This voting strategy is seriously working as I'm getting a much wider mix of items as I go

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