kinevon |
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A smart paladin uses detect evil before trying to smite. You know how many paladins I've seen people play over the years who forget they have that ability, thus frequently waste their Smite against a non-evil opponent? One guy tried to smite a celestial badger :)
And they finally clarified how the ability works!
My Self |
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Kahel Stormbender wrote:Once the succubus has been suitably chastised he shall draw forth his rod of lordly might to finish her off.OldSkoolRPG wrote:I suppose the paladin would be doing this with his sword raised and ready for use?Kahel Stormbender wrote:Which raises an interesting question. Would a paladin of Calistria still fall should they Lay On Hands a succubus? Or would Calistria be cheering them on?Since the succubus has obviously been very, very naughty the paladin must take her over a righteous knee smite her evil ass with a firm and steady hand.
CrimsonVixen |
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Calistria Paladin against a Succubus? Sounds interesting. Where would be the best place to put a campaign report where a Succubus Bard/Rogue who's a devoted lover/worshiper of Nocticula gets into a fight with a Succubus Priestess of Calistria that turns into a proxy fight for Nocty and Calistria herself?
And the solution to detect evil? Angelskin leather catsuit, I mean armor.
Ajit Shyama, Shadow Caller |
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Except... Gorumites don't have sacred prostitutes? My understanding is that you must be a worshiper of Calistria to take that trait?
In fact, the official name is "Calistrian Prostitute". The "Sacret Prostitute" rename is just because d20pfsrd.com scrubbs all the Golgarion-specific names and refferences from its content.
Kahel Stormbender |
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I know, I have a life oracle I play in a couple games. Backstory is she's an aasamar who's parents were murdered by a succubus when she was a baby. The succubus then took in the baby, raising it as her own. And grooming said young oracle to be turned into a succubus on her 18th birthday via a ritual. At least, until she (barely) learned what love is, and abandoned the teachings of her mother.
Or at least stopped channeling negative energy through her kisses (Inflict Light Wounds) to kill her lovers. The character's day job is that of a sacred prostitute. Or would that be her night job? She doesn't really worship Calistria, it's merely lip service (pun intended). But it's work she enjoys, and it provides room and board.
CrimsonVixen |
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This brings to mind an interesting concept. All the 'official' redeemed Succubi we've seen seem to have celibacy as a defining trait, like the energy drain is an automatic reaction to passionate activities. Is this an implication that the energy drain happens regardless of will when the Succubus is in an act of passion, or simply that the Succubi attempting to redeem themselves avoid intimacy to avoid the temptation of 'falling off the wagon' so to speak?
The first case seems to render the thread moot, as simply grappling a Succubus would not be an act of passion and not cause energy drain. The Succubus would be required to pin the PC to engage in a qualifying act.
The second case if it is actually a willful decision to energy drain in a passionate act, could this mean that it is possible to have a sex-positive redeemed Succubus? One that sees the 'evil-act' to be the draining, not the passion.
Cevah |
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Who said it was the same PC? succubi are not reknowned for their faithfulness, or their ability to sustain a longterm relationship.
That last bit may not entirely be their fault, mortals are so delightfully fragile.
"I'm literally an evil incarnation of illicit sex" -- Sabine, OOTS
/cevah
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Telekinesis allows a grapple at range, up to and including a pin.
Can a Telekineticist Succubus use Telekinetic Maneuvers (possibly with Telekinetic Finesse) to establish a ranged grapple and then use gentle (or rough) expressions of telekinetic force to initiate an Act of Passion in a target at a distance? Would grappling a target with a number of wandering, distracting hands of force... *wanders back out in search of a scroll or wand to experiment with, for science*
Cevah |
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Telekinesis allows a grapple at range, up to and including a pin.
Can a Telekineticist Succubus use Telekinetic Maneuvers (possibly with Telekinetic Finesse) to establish a ranged grapple and then use gentle (or rough) expressions of telekinetic force to initiate an Act of Passion in a target at a distance? Would grappling a target with a number of wandering, distracting hands of force... *wanders back out in search of a scroll or wand to experiment with, for science*
Using the power of the mind to grapple....
We'll have to think on that.
/cevah
GreenDragon1133 |
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I would imagine it would depend on the description of the power - which I believe is touch.
Nope: while her specific entry specifies a required grapple, the Energy Drain ability itself says successful melee or ranged attack. Which would make that possible - but would therefore render the premise of this thread invalid, since it means she must make a successful grapple to use the power.
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Zahariel wrote:I thought the PC was a naked wildshaped-to-bear druidess?I last read this thread two years ago. The succubus is still grappling that PC?
Imma buy that man a beer.
I'm sure she'd still like a beer.
Or honey. Bears like honey, right? Drizzled all over their grappling partner...
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I would imagine it would depend on the description of the power - which I believe is touch.
Nope: while her specific entry specifies a required grapple, the Energy Drain ability itself says successful melee or ranged attack. Which would make that possible - but would therefore render the premise of this thread invalid, since it means she must make a successful grapple to use the power.
I will destroy everything you have ever loved
GreenDragon1133 |
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GreenDragon1133 wrote:...would therefore render the premise of this thread invalid...NOTHING about this thread is invalid!!
NOTHING!!!
You sir, are out of order. Ushers, please have this individual removed from the event arena.
And this is why we must reject the possibility of Telekinetic Succubi, since it would take this all away to have to consult the rules so closely.
Besides, when would a real succubus let rules get in her way?
Cevah |
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the ushers are all too busy... grappling. also there seems to be a questionably bear shaped mound in the way
They are not grappling. They are applying restorative oils so that the contestant(s) can resume the event.
I knew that investment in this arena would come to fruition in time.
/cevah
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Molten Dragon wrote:If the succubi are grappling, who or what is holding up the round signs?/cevah
Just so long as they're also really well chained with dimensional anchor - unless you want them to get involved, which, it must be said, would likely have its own appeal, but then it'd be changing the dynamic...
darth_borehd |
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The kiss should be a touch attack that can only be performed when the target has the grappled condition.
I can imagine somebody grappling her in such a way as to avoid being kissed by her (pushing her puckered lips away or grabbing her from behind, for example). So whether or not she is the controlling or initiating grappler, I would make the kiss a touch attack.
If she initiated the successful grapple or becomes the controlling grappler, I would make the kiss a free touch attack.
Cevah |
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The kiss should be a touch attack that can only be performed when the target has the grappled condition.
I can imagine somebody grappling her in such a way as to avoid being kissed by her (pushing her puckered lips away or grabbing her from behind, for example). So whether or not she is the controlling or initiating grappler, I would make the kiss a touch attack.
If she initiated the successful grapple or becomes the controlling grappler, I would make the kiss a free touch attack.
Don't forget....
/cevah
Xuldarinar |
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Should it really be a free -touch- attack?
If someone were covered head to toe in armor, regardless of which lips the succubus intends to use, I don't think they would be as likely to connect.
They'd have the detriment of being grappled, and natural armor need not apply, but any form of worn protection could certainly get in the way of the succubus. Right?
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An Act of Passion
When dealing with a succubus
It isn't just a kiss
That is an act of passion
There's more to it than this.
Of her lips delicious
You certainly must beware
But other acts that she performs
Can drain your spirit bare
She might caress your stomach
Or nibble on your ear
Her tail might snake around you
And tease you from the rear
Her wings (which feel like leather)
Could satisfy your kink
And then you will be drained once more
As fast as you can blink
And while you're dealing with her
Take care you do not linger
You might not like (although you may)
The place she puts her finger
The act of passion is many things
She really isn't fussy
The succubus is probably
The epitome of "hussy"
So watch yourself, adventurer
If she is in arm's reach
Your life hangs in the balance
Your soul she just might leech
Don't allow her close to you
Resign to being a loner
Her act of passion is anything
That might give you a... thrill.
johnnythexxxiv |
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An Act of Passion
When dealing with a succubus
It isn't just a kiss
That is an act of passion
There's more to it than this.Of her lips delicious
You certainly must beware
But other acts that she performs
Can drain your spirit bareShe might caress your stomach
Or nibble on your ear
Her tail might snake around you
And tease you from the rearHer wings (which feel like leather)
Could satisfy your kink
And then you will be drained once more
As fast as you can blinkAnd while you're dealing with her
Take care you do not linger
You might not like (although you may)
The place she puts her fingerThe act of passion is many things
She really isn't fussy
The succubus is probably
The epitome of "hussy"So watch yourself, adventurer
If she is in arm's reach
Your life hangs in the balance
Your soul she just might leechDon't allow her close to you
Resign to being a loner
Her act of passion is anything
That might give you a... thrill.
Holy f* that was amazing XD