Succubus in a grapple.


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Cevah wrote:

I'm selling tickets to the Crystal Ball viewing room. They have huge Crystal Balls, and wizards able to view the entire process from the safety of the lounge. If you want a ticket, just favorite this post.

If you two will let me, I will add some images suitable for the Enter Image spell, so I can sell some premium tickets.

I also have some Mirrors to allow the scientists to get better vantage points.

Afterwards, I hope you two will be available to Share Memory with some of the researchers. Nothing like first hand knowledge.

If you find the event was not something to remember, I also have a wizard on tap with the Sequester Thoughts.

/cevah

Can I get two ticketS?


I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.


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If you cast haste on a succubus, would that allow speed dating, or at least a quickie? What if she has rapid grappler?


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.

I'll happily help you redecorate, and I appreciate the privacy too. Outside observation might interfere with the experiment.


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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Quantum mechanics says that observation changes the outcome of an experiment.

I'm sure none of us want to interfere with the superposition going on...


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Chemlak wrote:

Quantum mechanics says that observation changes the outcome of an experiment.

I'm sure none of us want to interfere with the superposition going on...

Collapsing entangled states hurts...


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Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.
I'll happily help you redecorate, and I appreciate the privacy too. Outside observation might interfere with the experiment.

Praise Inanna for incorporeal form


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Just as an FYI, the second bowl of popcorn is done.


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The Random Gamemaster wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.
I'll happily help you redecorate, and I appreciate the privacy too. Outside observation might interfere with the experiment.
Praise Inanna for incorporeal form

Our Lady in Shadow would probably be displeased if you try to witness her rituals without an appropriate offering.


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Mom always said to bring wine to a gathering...


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
The Random Gamemaster wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.
I'll happily help you redecorate, and I appreciate the privacy too. Outside observation might interfere with the experiment.
Praise Inanna for incorporeal form
Our Lady in Shadow would probably be displeased if you try to witness her rituals without an appropriate offering.

Could I bring a second succubus for an offering?


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The Random Gamemaster wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
The Random Gamemaster wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.
I'll happily help you redecorate, and I appreciate the privacy too. Outside observation might interfere with the experiment.
Praise Inanna for incorporeal form
Our Lady in Shadow would probably be displeased if you try to witness her rituals without an appropriate offering.
Could I bring a second succubus for an offering?

Depends - will she grapple the audience? I would be most excit-Disrupted from my valuable research if that occurred!

Rogar Stonebow wrote:
If you cast haste on a succubus, would that allow speed dating, or at least a quickie? What if she has rapid grappler?

Well I know it makes the evening very disappointing cast on an Incubus. So I suppose it would speed things up.

Plot twist: If a redeemed succubus paladin grappled a non-redeemed succubus, does she fall?


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Physically Unfeasible wrote:
The Random Gamemaster wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
The Random Gamemaster wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
I am in the process of redecorating my house, do not make me have the Halfling construction crew install lead sheeting in the drywall. You are welcome to provide a suitable combat arena to practice this, but some things are just private.
I'll happily help you redecorate, and I appreciate the privacy too. Outside observation might interfere with the experiment.
Praise Inanna for incorporeal form
Our Lady in Shadow would probably be displeased if you try to witness her rituals without an appropriate offering.
Could I bring a second succubus for an offering?

Depends - will she grapple the audience? I would be most excit-Disrupted from my valuable research if that occurred!

Rogar Stonebow wrote:
If you cast haste on a succubus, would that allow speed dating, or at least a quickie? What if she has rapid grappler?

Well I know it makes the evening very disappointing cast on an Incubus. So I suppose it would speed things up.

Plot twist: If a redeemed succubus paladin grappled a non-redeemed succubus, does she fall?

Why would you want to make it quick? You have need to feel know her more before you can lock her up in a dungeon. experiment on her. The other succubus is the original's older sister.


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Did you guys read the Succubus in A Grapple errata Paizo just released? It's outrageous, I'm done with PF, I'll be grappling succubi in 5E.

The Exchange

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Secret Wizard wrote:
Did you guys read the Succubus in A Grapple errata Paizo just released? It's outrageous, I'm done with PF, I'll be grappling succubi in 5E.

OMFGROFLMAO Nooooooo.... don't nerf the succubi!!!!

Scarab Sages

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Wait... There's a succubus errata?

The Exchange

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Choon wrote:
Wait... There's a succubus errata?

Yeah man... now, she sucks.


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The Random Gamemaster wrote:
Could I bring a second succubus for an offering?

Certainly, I love comparing notes and techniques with a sister.

Gohaken wrote:
Choon wrote:
Wait... There's a succubus errata?
Yeah man... now, she sucks.

I can't find this errata anywhere, I tried searching under Succubus, Drain Energy, and Grappling, as well as looking through the relevant FAQs. I didn't think the devs, or even JJ have commented on the subject.

Liberty's Edge

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Wait...a succubus can suck? I thought they only drain.


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Crashwheeler wrote:
Wait...a succubus can suck? I thought they only drain.

What do you think triggers the draining?


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Crashwheeler wrote:
Wait...a succubus can suck? I thought they only drain.
What do you think triggers the draining?

Straws.....


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Choon wrote:
Wait... There's a succubus errata?

Yeah, man, it was a COMPLETELY unnecessary nerf, now I have to trash all my characters, ALL OF THEM.

The devs are not commenting on the subject because it was a clear MONEY GRAB, they are intending to release some stupid ass psychic-themed demon harlot and want everyone who has spent their PRECIOUS time and money in browsing d20PFSRD to look up succubus stats THROW THAT EFFORT AWAY so they HAVE to work with this newly released ESPoontang.

OUTRAGEOUS.


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Let us also not forget the poor phrasing the errata used to define 'act of passion'. It's still so ambiguous!


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Marking this thread to see some hilarious posts later on!


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The Benighted Regent wrote:
Marking this thread to see some hilarious posts later on!

Later on? Start reading from the beginning, there are plenty of good posts from the get-go!


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I meant coming back to it later. :P I'm about to post some updates for my Throne of Night recruitment.

Still, I wonder if anyone has brought up Succubi+Succubi+Grease Spell+Grapple=PPV tickets?


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The Benighted Regent wrote:

I meant coming back to it later. :P I'm about to post some updates for my Throne of Night recruitment.

Still, I wonder if anyone has brought up Succubi+Succubi+Grease Spell+Grapple=PPV tickets?

See my referenced post at the top of this page.

I had everything set up and had even sold some tickets.

The diviner I had on tap failed. Because of that, we missed a session, and I only learned of it after the fact. :-(

Now, they want some privacy, and have indicated the effort they will spend to get it. It's just not worth it, with both of them coming after you. Still, I can put you in touch with the folks I had lined up.

I think I will stay in the shop selling stuff, and eating some of that great popcorn that has been passed around.

/cevah


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Cevah wrote:
The Benighted Regent wrote:

I meant coming back to it later. :P I'm about to post some updates for my Throne of Night recruitment.

Still, I wonder if anyone has brought up Succubi+Succubi+Grease Spell+Grapple=PPV tickets?

See my referenced post at the top of this page.

I had everything set up and had even sold some tickets.

The diviner I had on tap failed. Because of that, we missed a session, and I only learned of it after the fact. :-(

Now, they want some privacy, and have indicated the effort they will spend to get it. It's just not worth it, with both of them coming after you. Still, I can put you in touch with the folks I had lined up.

I think I will stay in the shop selling stuff, and eating some of that great popcorn that has been passed around.

/cevah

Luckily I threw the eye in there from my Cat's Eye Crown


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Gohaken wrote:
Choon wrote:
Wait... There's a succubus errata?

Yeah man... now, she sucks.

I'm pretty sure they already did. You just had to ask them nicely. Or roughly. Actually, they usually do it without even asking.


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Speaking of which: we're probably going to be facing some humanoid enemies soon, and my witch friend has Unnatural Lust prepared: if she manages to land the spell, should we call it a Save or Suck, or Save or Be Sucked?

...

Maybe both?


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Are you sure we need the "save" part? We could shorten in "suck or be sucked" with the third option being "both at once" with a fixed DC of 69.


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Dekalinder wrote:
Are you sure we need the "save" part? We could shorten in "suck or be sucked" with the third option being "both at once" with a fixed DC of 69.

There won't be any saving with that. How many things do you think could hit a DC 69 Will save?


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That is the whole point. Who in their right mind would actually want to be "saved" from that?


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Dekalinder wrote:
That is the whole point. Who in their right mind would actually want to be "saved" from that?

The celibate, obviously.


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Selena Halfblood wrote:

Speaking of which: we're probably going to be facing some humanoid enemies soon, and my witch friend has Unnatural Lust prepared: if she manages to land the spell, should we call it a Save or Suck, or Save or Be Sucked?

...

Maybe both?

As GM, I rule both.


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Yay!


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Dekalinder wrote:
That is the whole point. Who in their right mind would actually want to be "saved" from that?

Given the amount of ways that are discussed to avoid fatigue and exhaustion: Barbarians.

Oracles with the lame curse, however - will provide endless entertainment.

The problem is avoiding the shaken condition for knowing your career peaked right there and then.

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Secret Wizard wrote:
Choon wrote:
Wait... There's a succubus errata?

Yeah, man, it was a COMPLETELY unnecessary nerf, now I have to trash all my characters, ALL OF THEM.

The devs are not commenting on the subject because it was a clear MONEY GRAB, they are intending to release some stupid ass psychic-themed demon harlot and want everyone who has spent their PRECIOUS time and money in browsing d20PFSRD to look up succubus stats THROW THAT EFFORT AWAY so they HAVE to work with this newly released ESPoontang.

OUTRAGEOUS.

.

yeah I'm not too sure how I feel about some psychic substitute succubi.

Now if she dressed up a bit and called herself a substitute teacher, maybe I could let it slide. Out ... of bounds.
.

Anywho... maybe its not all bad. A psychic can really see your Point of View, or I guess POV for short. And you know me, I like it when they dip, so...

... I'm fhinking a psychic succubi substitute teacher who dips Master of the Empty Hand monk so she can Flurry of Blows POV, unless she has to move that round, in which case she just Strike Vitals to Furious Finish.


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Oh well this is interesting. Minor Spell Expertise with Unnatural Lust. 2/day SLA. Any way to make SLA's free actions?

As for letting a succubus play with Unnatural Lust, don't you think it's a little broken turning a 1st level spell into a 9th level spell?


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CrimsonVixen wrote:

Oh well this is interesting. Minor Spell Expertise with Unnatural Lust. 2/day SLA. Any way to make SLA's free actions?

As for letting a succubus play with Unnatural Lust, don't you think it's a little broken turning a 1st level spell into a 9th level spell?

Shouldn't a Succubus caster have 2nd to 9th level versions of the spell anyway?


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CrimsonVixen wrote:

Oh well this is interesting. Minor Spell Expertise with Unnatural Lust. 2/day SLA. Any way to make SLA's free actions?

As for letting a succubus play with Unnatural Lust, don't you think it's a little broken turning a 1st level spell into a 9th level spell?

Why do you call it Unnatural? I would think it was an everyday thing. For such as you, it should be renamed Natural Lust, no? Or should it be called Supernatural Lust?

/cevah


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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
Shouldn't a Succubus caster have 2nd to 9th level versions of the spell anyway?

This calls for Greater, Mass, and Mythic versions...

Cevah wrote:
Why do you call it Unnatural? I would think it was an everyday thing. For such as you, it should be renamed Natural Lust, no? Or should it be called Supernatural Lust?

And the verbal component is comprised of "Why are your lips still making words when they are supposed to be grappling mine."


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
Shouldn't a Succubus caster have 2nd to 9th level versions of the spell anyway?

This calls for Greater, Mass, and Mythic versions...

Cevah wrote:
Why do you call it Unnatural? I would think it was an everyday thing. For such as you, it should be renamed Natural Lust, no? Or should it be called Supernatural Lust?
And the verbal component is comprised of "Why are your lips still making words when they are supposed to be grappling mine."

That sounds like my cue. Come along Vixen, more research awaits and I've got uses for those lips of yours....


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You do realize there's a fundamental flaw in your research don't you? I mean, after all, you are only testing with couplings, you really need to expand that to things like a Vixen Sandwich or a Lathiira Luncheon. In the spirit of research I would be delighted to aid you in this endeavor, I have my signed consent form right here.

*Hands over a form with her signature on it.*


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Nessa Meretrix wrote:

You do realize there's a fundamental flaw in your research don't you? I mean, after all, you are only testing with couplings, you really need to expand that to things like a Vixen Sandwich or a Lathiira Luncheon. In the spirit of research I would be delighted to aid you in this endeavor, I have my signed consent form right here.

*Hands over a form with her signature on it.*

This form looks like it is in order. Though I am curious, why a Priestess of Callistria would risk experimenting with a rather experienced Servant of Nocticula and a Bard. You would be at significant risk of dying, or worse, becoming a lovely succubus yourself. Is that your plan?


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When it comes to technique what mortal knows better than a Priestess of the Savored Sting. Besides, I'm not that far removed from you to begin with and there are worse things to be than a succubus, like one of those hideous nabesu or lemurs, or worse still, a devil. *shudders at the though*

I'm quite sure I can convince my high priestess to provide protection, after all, think what I stand to learn and bring back to the faithful should I survive. If I don't survive, well, what a way to go!
*gracefully folds her wings down and gives Crimson a Coy look through her lashes*


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No objections on my part, Nessa, Vixen.


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I believe my Mistress would be quite supportive in you joining our experiments. Though I wonder if our respective patrons will decide to us this as a proxy for their own disagreements.

~fluffs up her wings and traces the membrane supports~
I am now curious how two sets of wings will interact in a grapple. Are there any feats that could aid this?

Organized Play Developer

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*evil grin*
Well, that escalated quickly.


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Jezebelle wrote:

*evil grin*

Well, that escalated quickly.

Yeah, that happens a lot around here. There's research to be done after all!

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