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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
But aren't the best kisses extended actions?

It depends what she's kissing, I suspect. ^_^


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Kalindlara wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
But aren't the best kisses extended actions?
It depends what she's kissing, I suspect. ^_^

What she is kissing, not who she is kissing?

@Randarak
Next will be
Improved Impulsive Kiss
Your proclivity with the kiss becomes legendary.
Prerequisites: Combat Reflexes, Impulsive Kiss
Benefit: You may make a number of Kisses of Opportunity per round equal to your Dexterity bonus. With this feat, you may also make kisses of opportunity while flat-footed.

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Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
But aren't the best kisses extended actions?
It depends what she's kissing, I suspect. ^_^

What she is kissing, not who she is kissing?

Next will be
Improved Impulsive Kiss
Your proclivity with the kiss becomes legendary.
Prerequisites: Combat Reflexes, Impulsive Kiss
Benefit: You may make a number of Kisses of Opportunity per round equal to your Dexterity bonus. With this feat, you may also make kisses of opportunity while flat-footed.

...

Or, to rephrase: it depends where she's kissing.


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Kalindlara wrote:


...

Or, to rephrase: it depends where she's kissing.

And that is better? It is getting quite warm in here, isn't it?


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There is a whole new world behind a succubus with Chokehold

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D'Angelo D'Ancer wrote:
Sin of Asmodeus wrote:

So, for the funsy, giggly person in me. I once again sat down with the grope, erm group that started this entire thread.

Once again but with different characters - my trope of do gooders, and miscreant well to doers fought their way through hordes of bad guys until they came across a Succubus with a holy symbol of Calistria and levels in tetori monk with grab style.

Yes dear friends. She had grabbing master, and greater grapple.
She cozily held two dear adventurers next to her, and drained them both at the same time, because much like pringles, you can't have just one.

This of course brought up a rule question. Just how many people can a succubus suck, if a succubus could suck levels?

I of course ruled two, but I come seeking the knowledge that only this forum can give me.

Though typically not encouraged, I do think that for this specific scenario, a Haste may be in order, and beneficial to the NLPR factor (Negative Level Per Round).

I don't think kisses should be done in Haste. Certainly you should not be kissing a succubus in Haste. Anything worth doing is worth taking the time to do it properly.

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Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
But aren't the best kisses extended actions?
It depends what she's kissing, I suspect. ^_^

...

Or, to rephrase: it depends where she's kissing.

Where she is kissing does not make me want it to happen any faster. In point of fact, I'm all for said kissing to take a long long time.

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Usual Suspect wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
But aren't the best kisses extended actions?
It depends what she's kissing, I suspect. ^_^

...

Or, to rephrase: it depends where she's kissing.

Where she is kissing does not make me want it to happen any faster. In point of fact, I'm all for said kissing to take a long long time.

Sometime the spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised so it may need to be a quick kiss


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Hilarious how I go to... research some pictures and I get to see the avatars of Mikaze, AD, Cerah...

Best thread ever.

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One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".


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LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".

Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?

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Manwolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".
Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?

Worse. At least negative levels can be patched up with restoration. ^_^


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Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".
Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?
Worse. At least negative levels can be patched up with restoration. ^_^

So you're saying that what he lost there requires regeneration.

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Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".
Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?
Worse. At least negative levels can be patched up with restoration. ^_^
So you're saying that what he lost there requires regeneration.

I was thinking plane shift, actually. ^_^


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Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".
Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?
Worse. At least negative levels can be patched up with restoration. ^_^
So you're saying that what he lost there requires regeneration.
I was thinking plane shift, actually. ^_^

straight to the friendzone

trapped there forever


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Lamontius wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".
Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?
Worse. At least negative levels can be patched up with restoration. ^_^
So you're saying that what he lost there requires regeneration.
I was thinking plane shift, actually. ^_^

straight to the friendzone

trapped there forever

Ah yes, I was thinking more of the emasculation effect that has. As in "where you're going you won't need those".


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This question came up in another thread where a question arose about the DC to jump over a succubus grappling a druid. And when I mean that it came up, I sorta kinda mean I'm the one who asked it.

So if a druid is in a grapple with a succubus and the druid wild shapes into a bear, and the succubus attempts an act of passion, is the succubus then committing beastiality?


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I don't think succubus are concerned with our human petty discrimination about what one can or cant make love with. As long as there are thing to suck drain, she's golden. Also, they give way more Fame points. I can't seem to find the table, but i can swear I saw horses giving +20.


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Manwolf wrote:

This question came up in another thread where a question arose about the DC to jump over a succubus grappling a druid. And when I mean that it came up, I sorta kinda mean I'm the one who asked it.

That's actually a good question. Is there a rule for distracted jumping? What happens if (but let's face it, rules or no rules, it is going to be when) the jumper fails the DC and falls on (or is it into?) the act in question?

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It's not what it looks like, darling! I was just...jumping over the...naked and oiled....succubus dressed like a nazi and the Druid shape-changed into a horse and dressed like a nurse....and then I kind of...fell into them!

I was trying to claw my way out! It's not my fault that I got a bit...tangled up! And it was them that tore my clothes off, not me!

Okay, so while I was in there I did a bit of...research. The things I do for Science! I didn't enjoy it at all!

...I was thinking about you the whole time...!

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Where is the Incubus thread?


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Protean Warlord wrote:

Hilarious how I go to... research some pictures and I get to see the avatars of Mikaze, AD, Cerah...

Best thread ever.

Was this a typo?

blackbloodtroll wrote:
Where is the Incubus thread?

I think the Mighty Battle Cock should suffice as a reasonable stand-in.

/cevah

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What happens if we combine the Mighty Battle Cock thread, and the Succubus in a Grapple thread?

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blackbloodtroll wrote:
What happens if we combine the Mighty Battle Cock thread, and the Succubus in a Grapple thread?

A bunch of little threads - presumably, on the topic of selecting succubi for the Mount class feature.


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Malachi Silverclaw wrote:

It's not what it looks like, darling! I was just...jumping over the...naked and oiled....succubus dressed like a nazi and the Druid shape-changed into a horse and dressed like a nurse....and then I kind of...fell into them!

I was trying to claw my way out! It's not my fault that I got a bit...tangled up! And it was them that tore my clothes off, not me!

Okay, so while I was in there I did a bit of...research. The things I do for Science! I didn't enjoy it at all!

...I was thinking about you the whole time...!

Her: if you were thinking of me, why did the succubus Alter Self to look like my sister?!?

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GreenDragon1133 wrote:
Malachi Silverclaw wrote:

It's not what it looks like, darling! I was just...jumping over the...naked and oiled....succubus dressed like a nazi and the Druid shape-changed into a horse and dressed like a nurse....and then I kind of...fell into them!

I was trying to claw my way out! It's not my fault that I got a bit...tangled up! And it was them that tore my clothes off, not me!

Okay, so while I was in there I did a bit of...research. The things I do for Science! I didn't enjoy it at all!

...I was thinking about you the whole time...!

Her: if you were thinking of me, why did the succubus Alter Self to look like my sister?!?

Well, I mistake her for you all the time. Wait! I didn't mean thaarrrgghh!!!


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Malachi Silverclaw wrote:


...I was thinking about you the whole time...!
Her: if you were thinking of me, why did the succubus Alter Self to look like my sister?!? Well, I mistake her for you all the time. Wait! I didn't mean thaarrrgghh!!!

And now you're probably drained of something besides a level....


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Just leaned a new combo:
Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

/cevah


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Cevah wrote:

Just leaned a new combo:

Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

/cevah

This has uses. Now I have a reason to get the Monster Summoner's Handbook. Thanks cevah! Oh CrimsonVixen...LOL


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Cevah wrote:

Just leaned a new combo:

Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

This is degrading and objectionable and I love it.

By the way, fellow researchers, I found something interesting in the Mythic Hero Handbook! What can we do with this breakthrough?

Pinning Knockdown(Mythic):
When you pin your opponent, you take them to the ground.
Prerequisite: Improved Grapple or grab special attack.
Benefit: Whenever you succeed at a grapple combat maneuver to pin a creature, you also knock that creature prone. You need not make a separate combat maneuver check to trip the target, and abilities such as stability that grant a bonus to CMD against trip maneuvers do not apply. As long as you remain stationary and adjacent to the target while maintaining the pin, you are no longer considered grappled.

*Pins someone prone, lures him/her into an act of passion while holding him/her down with her feet.*

Look, SiaG, no hands!


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Good find Selena. I'm sure we can find something to do with some free hands!


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Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
GreenDragon1133 wrote:
But aren't the best kisses extended actions?
It depends what she's kissing, I suspect. ^_^

What she is kissing, not who she is kissing?

@Randarak
Next will be
Improved Impulsive Kiss
Your proclivity with the kiss becomes legendary.
Prerequisites: Combat Reflexes, Impulsive Kiss
Benefit: You may make a number of Kisses of Opportunity per round equal to your Dexterity bonus. With this feat, you may also make kisses of opportunity while flat-footed.

Where's the Impulsive Kiss feat? And what does it do?


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LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".

...ouch.


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Lamontius wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Manwolf wrote:
LazarX wrote:
One of our player characters in our WOTR campaign wants to get in a grapple with our resident succubus, but she told him she'd rather be "just friends".
Wow, is that a 2 level drain or what?
Worse. At least negative levels can be patched up with restoration. ^_^
So you're saying that what he lost there requires regeneration.
I was thinking plane shift, actually. ^_^

straight to the friendzone

trapped there forever

hey man. At least you have your levels...cold comfort but still....


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So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact? Or would the experience be wholly in the victim's mind?

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Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact? Or would the experience be wholly in the victim's mind?

Based on a certain succubus-heavy AP, they don't even need to be psychic. ^_^


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Kalindlara wrote:
Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact? Or would the experience be wholly in the victim's mind?

Based on a certain succubus-heavy AP, they don't even need to be psychic. ^_^

See, part of me is okay with this, but the pedant in me says 'Look, the Dream World is supposed to be a Psychic thing, if I'm going to get into these head games I want it to be accurate.' If succubus head games can happen without being psychic, why, I'm not even sure if takings things in an occult direction would be worthwhile anymore...

Eh, I'll live.

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Cranky Bastard wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact? Or would the experience be wholly in the victim's mind?

Based on a certain succubus-heavy AP, they don't even need to be psychic.

See, part of me is okay with this, but the pedant in me says 'Look, the Dream World is supposed to be a Psychic thing, if I'm going to get into these head games I want it to be accurate.' If succubus head games can happen without being psychic, why, I'm not even sure if takings things in an occult direction would be worthwhile anymore...

Eh, I'll live.

Well...

Wrath of the Righteous:
A goddess may have been involved, for one thing.

From Demon's Heresy:
Arueshalae first came to the Worldwound in 4636 AR. One fateful night after she'd seduced a priestess of Desna and drained her nearly to death, on a whim she tried an experiment. Since outsiders don't need to sleep, they don't normally dream. Out of curiosity, she stole into the thoughts of her dying victim using detect thoughts while the woman lay sleeping, only to be pulled into the Dimension of Dreams. When the priestess died, Arueshalae found herself somehow trapped, but she hadn't gone unnoticed. In daring to allow herself to dream, Arueshalae gained Desna's attention.

So, unique circumstances may have been involved. ^_^


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Cevah wrote:

Just leaned a new combo:

Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

/cevah

That's ridiculous. Forget the fact that you can ride them. You could use that combo to summon yourself a couple of all day monsters.

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Lab_Rat wrote:
Cevah wrote:

Just leaned a new combo:

Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

/cevah

That's ridiculous. Forget the fact that you can ride them. You could use that combo to summon yourself a couple of all day monsters.

He makes a valid point. If you have the spell slots...

you could get multiple succubus mounts.

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Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact?

The wet part.


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Tim Statler wrote:
Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact?

The wet part.

Which is specifically awash with the potential for juicily detailed RP, never mind the combat implications.

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Cranky Bastard wrote:
Tim Statler wrote:
Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact?

The wet part.
Which is specifically awash with the potential for juicily detailed RP, never mind the combat implications.

I never quite made it to the combat implications in those sessions...


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Kalindlara wrote:
Lab_Rat wrote:
Cevah wrote:

Just leaned a new combo:

Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

/cevah

That's ridiculous. Forget the fact that you can ride them. You could use that combo to summon yourself a couple of all day monsters.

He makes a valid point. If you have the spell slots...

you could get multiple succubus mounts.

If you can heighten a spell to 6th, you have enough slots. Just think, party favors for the entire party with an extra one or two for the one that lasts the longest. Remember, the spell is communal mount, and is meant to be shared with friends.

Kalindlara wrote:
Cranky Bastard wrote:
Tim Statler wrote:
Cranky Bastard wrote:

So aside from a succubus with mesmerist levels, now we have talk of Esoteric Planes, not the least of which is the Plane of Dreams.

Does this mean that a psychic succubus in a grapple can take you into the deepest parts of the Dream World while in direct contact?

The wet part.
Which is specifically awash with the potential for juicily detailed RP, never mind the combat implications.
I never quite made it to the combat implications in those sessions...

Sure you did. That is non-lethal combat, best done with leather or some other protection. Now, the rules on holding your breath might need to be revisited, especially with the new house ruled feats mentioned above.

/cevah


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Lathiira wrote:
Cevah wrote:

Just leaned a new combo:

Mount heightened to 6th level, add Alter Summoned Monster and bring in a Succubus. You now can have the lady serve you as a mount for many hours. She serves willingly and well. She comes with a bit and bridle and a riding saddle. Just right for the adventurous types.

/cevah

This has uses. Now I have a reason to get the Monster Summoner's Handbook. Thanks cevah! Oh CrimsonVixen...LOL

Last time I checked, I was a fair bit more than just a vanilla Succubus, plus that whole little will save thing. That being said, if you want to mount me, you just have to ask.


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Last time I checked, I was a fair bit more than just a vanilla Succubus, plus that whole little will save thing. That being said, if you want to mount me, you just have to ask.

Last time I checked, you were not ordinary. :-)

That will save you mention is the save of the one being replaced, not the one replacing. Also, it only applies to spells you did not cast.

/cevah


CrimsonVixen wrote:

Last time I checked, I was a fair bit more than just a vanilla Succubus, plus that whole little will save thing. That being said, if you want to mount me, you just have to ask.

Just teasing about the spell! Welcome back. Ready for another round?


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Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:

Last time I checked, I was a fair bit more than just a vanilla Succubus, plus that whole little will save thing. That being said, if you want to mount me, you just have to ask.

Just teasing about the spell! Welcome back. Ready for another round?

I certainly am. You have a new research topic to explore?


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:

Last time I checked, I was a fair bit more than just a vanilla Succubus, plus that whole little will save thing. That being said, if you want to mount me, you just have to ask.

Just teasing about the spell! Welcome back. Ready for another round?

I certainly am. You have a new research topic to explore?

I'm sure there's a topic lying around here somewhere. Though if it comes down to it, repetition ensures the best quality research.

Oh, and you're definitely not a vanilla succubus. What you taste like is another discussion entirely!


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Lathiira wrote:

I'm sure there's a topic lying around here somewhere. Though if it comes down to it, repetition ensures the best quality research.

Oh, and you're definitely not a vanilla succubus. What you taste like is another discussion entirely!

I was distracted by a rather cool Crystal Tiara

The only vanilla things in my life are my ice cream. As for topics. What about using a dagger in a grapple? Certainly having a lovely succubus put their research partner in a choke-hold from behind with a dagger counts as an act of passion, and a bonus to an intimidate or diplomacy check.

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