Succubus in a grapple.


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LazarX wrote:
The Fiend Fantastic wrote:

And what has this thread taught us?

That the gaming community is dominated by undersexed males?

Under, over, sideways, male, or female, etc. :)


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Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.


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I... uh... don't see how that would... work... Um. I would need some... evidence before I believe it.

Silver Crusade

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The only fair way to judge this is a playtest


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Couldn't a succubus grapple someone and have an argument over nerd-rage inducing subjects, and count that as an act of passion?

inb4 'nerf succubus debate skills'


OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

Quicken Spell-like Ability, that would allow multiple level drains a round.


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

Quicken Spell-like Ability, that would allow multiple level drains a round.

I really think it needs to be extensively tested just to make sure it works. Just need a succubus and some volunteers.


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

Quicken Spell-like Ability, that would allow multiple level drains a round.

It's not a spell-like ability.


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Ipslore the Red wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

Quicken Spell-like Ability, that would allow multiple level drains a round.
It's not a spell-like ability.

Shush you!!!! The succubus may not figure that out until after the she and I...umm..I mean the volunteers have done the testing!


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OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

And if there are participants trying to dominate each other, that could get quite frisky!


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And if there are participants trying to dominate each other, that could get quite frisky!

Lets hope so

Scarab Sages

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Well, lethargic play tests always slow down results, so yes, frisky play tests are always better in the long run.


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Brownchickenbrowncow wrote:


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And if there are participants trying to dominate each other, that could get quite frisky!

Lets hope so

In my experience, it's somewhat a challenge to get two dominates to play well with each other for long, you end up with bruised egos and things.

OldSkoolRPG wrote:


I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

Also, our energy drain attack doesn't transfer levels, just drains from the target as negative levels, eventually we'll all be at one effective level and probably passed out...which that would be an effective and entertaining tactic, mass suggestion on the group of succubi to attack each other with their energy drain attacks, wait till they're all passed out and afterglowy, coup-de-grace them all.

Grand Lodge

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Would casting grease on the druid or succubus lengthen or shorten the grapple?

Slip sliding away....


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Ipslore the Red wrote:
CrimsonVixen wrote:
OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Lathiira wrote:


Or dominate. I mean, considering the list of items we brought into this thread, and some of the posts, especially regarding tying up someone in a grapple, that could go both ways.

I'm sure the succubus would be more than happy to go both ways.

Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

Quicken Spell-like Ability, that would allow multiple level drains a round.
It's not a spell-like ability.

This is quite right - it's a supernatural ability, and would thus be unaffected by feats that modify a spell-like ability.

Two main things, vis a vis draining multiple targets:

"These [supernatural abilities] can't be disrupted in combat and generally don't provoke attacks of opportunity."

Rules text for supernatural abilities. If a succubus chooses to use her energy drain, then it can't be disrupted in combat and doesn't provoke any attack of opportunity upon her from the target or targets, assuming she's engaged in close proximity to more than one individual.

Second, she could not drain more than one person unless she gains additional standard actions (the act of passion isn't specified, so if she does she could kiss one target and just give somebody else a massage somewhere, depending on your definition of "act of passion"). The "act of passion" is a standard action as part of the supernatural ability, which as a 1/round thing, should thus take place over the course of about six seconds in order to trigger, allowing for move and swift actions by the succubus in the same period of time.

Silver Crusade

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Alleran, that is way too much rules text for a single post in this thread.

Since I'm already here, I'd like to donate my body to the scientific research being proposed in this thread.

Silver Crusade

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I'm with Bigdaddy...wait that doesn't sound right. Any way to the playtest forget that alpha stuff, straight to beta.


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Maybe we should opt this situation to James Jacobs as a situation for a module or AP. You know, one can optionally wrestle a succubus to earn a grand, grand prize.

Organizers can't guarantee safety of the competitors naturally.


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OldSkoolRPG wrote:
Hmmm, if said succubus is being grappled in multiple ways by two or more individuals can she passionately drain all of them at once.

She could not do it with a Standard action. She would have to use a Non-Standard action. And I am sure she would be quite willing to develop that feat. Besides, she likes doing non-standard things.

/cevah


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Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Alleran, that is way too much rules text for a single post in this thread.

I thought the "can't be disrupted in combat" would serve to enlighten others on the situations in which she could be expected to be engaging in acts of passion. Are you saying you think she should be disrupted? Or are you questioning whether acts of passion like kisses count as combat? (Depending, I suppose, on whether tongues to tongue "combat" meets those qualifications.)


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Act of passion as an attack of opportunity, then?


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Alleran wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Alleran, that is way too much rules text for a single post in this thread.
I thought the "can't be disrupted in combat" would serve to enlighten others on the situations in which she could be expected to be engaging in acts of passion. Are you saying you think she should be disrupted? Or are you questioning whether acts of passion like kisses count as combat? (Depending, I suppose, on whether tongues to tongue "combat" meets those qualifications.)

The real question is does a tongues spell grant her a bonus on acts of passion?


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Tarantula wrote:
Alleran wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Alleran, that is way too much rules text for a single post in this thread.
I thought the "can't be disrupted in combat" would serve to enlighten others on the situations in which she could be expected to be engaging in acts of passion. Are you saying you think she should be disrupted? Or are you questioning whether acts of passion like kisses count as combat? (Depending, I suppose, on whether tongues to tongue "combat" meets those qualifications.)
The real question is does a tongues spell grant her a bonus on acts of passion?

Only if the target speaks the language of love.


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Tarantula wrote:
Alleran wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Alleran, that is way too much rules text for a single post in this thread.
I thought the "can't be disrupted in combat" would serve to enlighten others on the situations in which she could be expected to be engaging in acts of passion. Are you saying you think she should be disrupted? Or are you questioning whether acts of passion like kisses count as combat? (Depending, I suppose, on whether tongues to tongue "combat" meets those qualifications.)
The real question is does a tongues spell grant her a bonus on acts of passion?
Only if the target speaks the language of love.

Or the language of lust. Unfortunately much of the language of lust consists of cheezy pickup lines.

Scarab Sages

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And gestures/dances. Don't forget those!

Could dancing be an act of passion? All the movies say yes, but that would also imply that you could dance. Or at least gesticulate.

Can oozes be subject to this, or would they have to take ranks in Perform:dance in order to wobble about with rhythm... *Stops mind right there*


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Hmmm... oozes could grapple a succubus...


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Tarantula wrote:
Alleran wrote:
Bigdaddyjug wrote:
Alleran, that is way too much rules text for a single post in this thread.
I thought the "can't be disrupted in combat" would serve to enlighten others on the situations in which she could be expected to be engaging in acts of passion. Are you saying you think she should be disrupted? Or are you questioning whether acts of passion like kisses count as combat? (Depending, I suppose, on whether tongues to tongue "combat" meets those qualifications.)
The real question is does a tongues spell grant her a bonus on acts of passion?
Only if the target speaks the language of love.

French?

Silver Crusade

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Well gelatinous cubes have psuedopods, so maybe some jello wrestling...


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Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Well gelatinous cubes have psuedopods, so maybe some jello wrestling...

That adds a whole new degree of difficulty, not only do you have to grapple your opponent, your arena grapples you too.


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Well gelatinous cubes have psuedopods, so maybe some jello wrestling...
That adds a whole new degree of difficulty, not only do you have to grapple your opponent, your arena grapples you too.

For that matter, larger mimics would also work and not only do they use pseudopods, but sticky ones at that....


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
In my experience, it's somewhat a challenge to get two dominates to play well with each other for long, you end up with bruised egos and things.

Hmmm... bruises...

One can separate the SM and BD... but in my experience, it's kind of har... difficult.

CrimsonVixen wrote:
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
Well gelatinous cubes have psuedopods, so maybe some jello wrestling...
That adds a whole new degree of difficulty, not only do you have to grapple your opponent, your arena grapples you too.

WAIT... I think we are on to something. If it's a living spell ooze of (greater) restoration then not only do you negate the negative level, but everyone involved also gets healed of fatigue and exhaustion...

Grapples could go on just about indefinitely.


O.o

Scarab Sages

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the next level.

Can Waves of Extacy be made a living spell?


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Choon wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the next level.

Can Waves of Extacy be made a living spell?

I thought waves of ecstasy was just what you experienced when being passionately grappled by a succubus.


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Waves of Ecstasy+Greater Restoration+Heal+Sympathy (overkill, really)+Keep Watch
Caster Level: enormous.
Size: colossal

Now you have a living spell that makes you feel great, heals you of all damage and negative effects, allows you to be awake instead of sleeping, and makes you really want to stay (as I said: overkill).

Place one (1) succubus inside. (Bare bear Druid optional.)

Rings of Sustenance will be provided. (They aren't necessary, but, you know, it's still nice.)

Enough room inside for everybody! Come on in!

...

...

...

>.>


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I am suddenly struck with the need to play a Katamari Succubi video game.


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Tacticslion wrote:

Waves of Ecstasy+Greater Restoration+Heal+Sympathy (overkill, really)+Keep Watch

Caster Level: enormous.
Size: colossal

Now you have a living spell that makes you feel great, heals you of all damage and negative effects, allows you to be awake instead of sleeping, and makes you really want to stay (as I said: overkill).

Place one (1) succubus inside. (Bare bear Druid optional.)

Rings of Sustenance will be provided. (They aren't necessary, but, you know, it's still nice.)

Enough room inside for everybody! Come on in!

...

...

...

>.>

Well, they'll have the stamina to try out all these other options we've discussed. Otherwise we might've needed a summoner to make an eidolon that looks like a gelatinous cube with as many evolution points dedicated to extra limbs (tentacles) as possible. With PC WBL for all the sovereign glue, shackles of compliance, and spell scrolls for animate rope, grease, etc. Which we might still want, after all.

Silver Crusade

Tacticslion wrote:

Waves of Ecstasy+Greater Restoration+Heal+Sympathy (overkill, really)+Keep Watch

Caster Level: enormous.
Size: colossal

Now you have a living spell that makes you feel great, heals you of all damage and negative effects, allows you to be awake instead of sleeping, and makes you really want to stay (as I said: overkill).

Place one (1) succubus inside. (Bare bear Druid optional.)

Rings of Sustenance will be provided. (They aren't necessary, but, you know, it's still nice.)

Enough room inside for everybody! Come on in!

...

...

...

>.>

Those aren't necessary. I, for one, know I'm going to want to stop and eat...something...at some point.


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Choon wrote:

And gestures/dances. Don't forget those!

Could dancing be an act of passion? All the movies say yes, but that would also imply that you could dance. Or at least gesticulate.

Can oozes be subject to this, or would they have to take ranks in Perform:dance in order to wobble about with rhythm... *Stops mind right there*

If having multiple dancing Succubi can be considered as being evil, then there's irrefutable proof that the Lord of Mordor was just that...


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Here4daFreeSwag wrote:


If having multiple dancing Succubi can be considered as being evil, then there's irrefutable proof that the Lord of Mordor was just that...

If being a dancing Succubus is considered evil, I don't wanna be good.


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If dancing is an act of passion, a succubus could make for one killer dancer...and a whole troupe of them would really mop up on the dance floor. Dance till you drop takes on a whole new meaning....


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Lathiira wrote:
If dancing is an act of passion, a succubus could make for one killer dancer...and a whole troupe of them would really mop up on the dance floor. Dance till you drop takes on a whole new meaning....

With a troupe of succubus there is always a lot of things to mop up.


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Nicos wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
If dancing is an act of passion, a succubus could make for one killer dancer...and a whole troupe of them would really mop up on the dance floor. Dance till you drop takes on a whole new meaning....
With a troupe of succubus there is always a lot of things to mop up.

And no one complains when they're mind-controlled or there are adds joining the fight.


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CrimsonVixen wrote:
Nicos wrote:
Lathiira wrote:
If dancing is an act of passion, a succubus could make for one killer dancer...and a whole troupe of them would really mop up on the dance floor. Dance till you drop takes on a whole new meaning....
With a troupe of succubus there is always a lot of things to mop up.
And no one complains when they're mind-controlled or there are adds joining the fight.

Of course not. No one minds a few extra dance partners. Or targets for grease spells, mimics, the druid's animal companion, an eidolon, animate rope....

Shadow Lodge

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:}

How did I not know this was here? Honestly, I thought all the references to the thread were a running gag of some kind. I'll be here all weekend reading, watching, dreaming.

Shadow Lodge

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LazarX wrote:
Daynen wrote:

Bear in mind the paladin's code is an individual thing, and is not explicitly spelled out as preventing him from having a little fun. If your DM didn't specifically restrict you from it, then there's nothing preventing a little cross-religion contact.

Willfully consorting with Demons is going to break any Paladin's code, I don't care how "progressive" your deity is.

Sarenrae requires that we attempt to redeem even the most wicked creatures. And I'm willing to do whatever it takes in my goddess' name.

CrimsonVixen wrote:


@OldSkoolRPG, yes you are welcome to watch, however we retain the right to shift our positions to add combatants. It has been proven the best way to learn is by doing...

I, ahh, I'll be... uhm... I'll be in my...

Never mind. I'm fine here.

Grand Lodge

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I can't believe how long this thread has gotten -_-. You people are really perverted.


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Epsilon wrote:
I can't believe how long this thread has gotten -_-. You people are really perverted.

Not at all. This is all in the name of scientific inquiry. Any good scientist will tell you that you must have sufficient repetitions of your experiment to ensure statistical strength. As such, we continue onward....

Grand Lodge

A good scientist wouldn't even be studying this subject since it only exists in the realm of fantasy.

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