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change class with a wish


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I was a pali but because my allies went evil after their original characters committed suicide and I wanted to stay with them I decided to go CE but know the problem is we are fighting lizard folk and I think a LN culture so I was curious how you would word a wish so that I could change my class to say fighter or ranger? Thanks. I also have levels in nobel I wish to keep.


Well you could become a fallen paladin, so instead of becoming a fighter or ranger..you could instead become an Anti-Paladin.


You could think of a way to roll play this, but in the end it's just wishing to the DM, "I wish to change all of my Paladin levels to Anti-Paladin levels." Done.

You must remember though, you will gain enemies for doing this. Paladins who knew you will actively hunt you down for your actions. Your God may send out something to bring you to justice. The list goes on.


Or if your GM would go for it... the classic cheez of your twin who was separated from you at birth returns. You've gone anti-paladin and in an epic battle your twin kills you. Now you play him.

As twins separated at birth usually do... he made many of the same life choices (nobility ranks, etc) so is similar to you in almost every way, except that he's a ranger, etc.

Dripping with velveeta, and up to your GM of course.


yes sorry forgot to mention i am anti-pali but everything is non good also I figured out I could make a wish to be able to smite all allignments but still want to find a way to be a LE anti-pali with a wish if possible.


I remember the good old days when making a Wish to the DM was not so simple. It was like making a contract with the devil, you never knew what you would get out of it. That was why we never used Wishes so lightly as they appear here. The DM should have turned on the Consequences machine and let it fly (no not Truth or Consequences) :)

I fear for the DM who just lets the players do what ever they want.


anti-paladin should be fun to play man, if you were fighting lizard folk, your paladin couldnt do anything special here either.


If you've already made the in-character switch to anti-paladin-- then just run with it. And I agree with the poster who said your paladin brothers should probably be trying to hunt you down because of it. But if you want to stay with your now-evil party this is the most character-consistent way to do it.

If you want a new character that's similar to a paladin, but lawful evil-- try inquisitor. Many of the paladin-like abilities, but can be any alignment. There is also some 3PP stuff on paladins of any alignment. But I think it'd have to be a new character at this point. Depending on the GM, it could be a pretty similar new character. But at this point your stalwart defender of the faith has gone alignment-hopping so many times that he'd have to be somewhat insane. And insanity fits best with Chaotic Evil anyway.


If I am an anti-pali... but ACTING like I am still good.

does the god tell other palidins to come get me?

like... can I fake it or once you have fallen your god warns your brethren and they come after you.


Run, Just Run wrote:
I was a pali but because my allies went evil after their original characters committed suicide and I wanted to stay with them I decided to go CE but know the problem is we are fighting lizard folk and I think a LN culture so I was curious how you would word a wish so that I could change my class to say fighter or ranger? Thanks. I also have levels in nobel I wish to keep.

Go Antipaladin. They're a lot more powerful than Paladins are anyway, and there's an actual game mechanic for it.

I would not grant a class change with a Wish spell as a GM. If a player tried, I would grant him the highest level illusion effect I could find that made others around him seem like he was another class.


I would allow a wish to change their class to a similar class. E.G.: Sorcerer to Oracle or Fighter to Barbarian.

Or combine Wizard and Fighter levels into Magus levels. But they would keep the same Race and Stats.


Run, Just Run wrote:
I was a pali but because my allies went evil after their original characters committed suicide and I wanted to stay with them I decided to go CE but know the problem is we are fighting lizard folk and I think a LN culture so I was curious how you would word a wish so that I could change my class to say fighter or ranger? Thanks. I also have levels in nobel I wish to keep.

A Wish Spells power to alter reality is limited to about 6 seconds. Wishing to alter your existense significantly enough to forget all you have learned in your existing proffesion and gain training, experience and knowledge enough to become an entire other class would, IMO, be beyond the power of magic.

You would be altering everything the character has done and experienced since his inception. Sound a bit beyond the power of magic.


Hence why I said make it close to the original class. It doesn't have to totally rewrite the Knowledge it just has to modify it.

Such as leaving the Race, Stats, and the key feats of the character the same.

It doesn't have to rewrite all of their experiences entirely only the knowledge of their class abilities.

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