because i can say the word 'bastard' and not get in trouble for it
Answer is really simple: style
I have been looking over the threads and I do not understand why so many want a bastard sword over a long sword.
Once you spend the feat on exotic weapon, you can use the bastard sword exactly the same as a long sword, one or two handed an it seems that the only benefit you gain is a bump from 1d8 to 1d10 damage.
Am I missing something?
Tengu character.
Cleric / Inquisitor of Ragathiel.
Pre-errata Heirloom Weapon trait.
Lastly, a wise DM who ignores the stupid EWP feat?
All these things can make the Bastard Sword better than a Longsword.
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'Cuz rolling 2d10 on a crit with one hand is just cool.Why is it cooler than rolling 2d8? Or rolling 2d6 50% more often?
I agree, rolling a d10 is so nice, or a d12 is even better. I'd never want a falchion, even though it is the uber crit weapon, just becuase rolling 2d4 seems like such a drag. even d6s seem kinda rough...
I agree, rolling a d10 is so nice, or a d12 is even better. I'd never want a falchion, even though it is the uber crit weapon, just becuase rolling 2d4 seems like such a drag. even d6s seem kinda rough...'Cuz rolling 2d10 on a crit with one hand is just cool.Why is it cooler than rolling 2d8? Or rolling 2d6 50% more often?
But 2d6 is better than a d12 :O
'Cuz rolling 2d10 on a crit with one hand is just cool.Why is it cooler than rolling 2d8? Or rolling 2d6 50% more often?
2d10! That's more, innit?
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Okay guys it took me awhile but I ran the numbers pretty dang hard and found out that a D10 can generate bigger numbers than a D8.
Namely, it can generate 9's and 10's which I totally wasn't expecting.
I hope this helps!
Flavor - It isn't all about mechanics.
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Guys I can't find Flavor in the feat list.
Check again, if you look real close you will see it right here...
/biffs ;)
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Man if you do not have Improved Unarmed Strike then I am taking my Attack of Opportunity.
The Shogun of Harlem wrote:
Flavor - It isn't all about mechanics.
A common misconception is that these two must be separate.You can have mechanically sound PCs that also have flavor.
I know, shocking!:)
Absolutely, didn't say you couldn't have both. 5.5 on ave is better then 4.5. Fantastic. If it fits with you dude, great, roll with it.
Once one of my players wanted to make a crit build dwarven dervish type with scimitars. I said great, come up with a great story and you are golden, it will be bad ass. If you do it for the crunch I will make fun of you till the day you die. Needless to say he opted not to make his dancing dwarf.
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A fellow player of mine hates the fact that I can combine flavor and mechanics well.
I call it Practical Optimization.
There is a good thread on it here.
Personally I've never considered Bastard Sword worth a feat at all, great if you get it for free though. If I blowing feat on an exotic weapon proficiency then Falcata is much better in my opinion.
Yeah I know what you mean I have have a D10 that always comes through for me, while my D8's just are ruthlessly bad.
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I mean I like rolling d10s and d12s because of their shape, d4s are just too weird, you dont roll a d4, you drop it onto the table. even d6, its too much like monopoly. this is why I dont like greatswords.
I have my Great-Grandfather's Ivory D6, so I love using them.
They are so nicotine stained, that they got nicknamed my "smoke dice".
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I mean I like rolling d10s and d12s because of their shape, d4s are just too weird, you dont roll a d4, you drop it onto the table. even d6, its too much like monopoly. this is why I dont like greatswords.
I have my Great-Grandfather's Ivory D6, so I love using them.
They are so nicotine stained, that they got nicknamed my "smoke dice".
dice with a history are definitely cool,
I really like the Ripsaw Glaive.
Alchemically powered chainsaw on a stick.
I do wish there was a non-reach version though.
There is. Just play as a permanently reduced halfling.
Meh. my vote is: all katana all the time... Thats how I role [sic]
Really with such a huge variety in cool swords (bastard, katana, falcata, elven curved blade, etc), by comparison longswords seem so vanilla - who'd want one? It's all flavor. And as previously stated, 'bastard' is a much more interesting adjective than 'long'.
And as far as optimizers go, I've never met one in person, I only see them on forum boards, and from the sound of it, I don't want to meet one and glad they don't sit at my table.
No see you probably have and you just didn't realize it because it's not just a single thing that you can do to the exclusion of all else.
Well considering I live in a gaming vaccuum - rural NC Illinois with all the gamers in my area in my existing game group (6 people) and none of them optimizers, and it's the only group I've gamed with over the past 16 years. No, I'm sure I never met one. Note we were playing 2e even 8 years ago, and I don't remember 2e games as having optimizers. I'm pretty sure optimization came about with 3x, more than any other edition. So, I know for certain, I've never met one, and am glad for it.
- If you are playing a core only game, bastard sword is pretty nice
- Style
- Some people hat rolling d8s, d4s, d6s etc.
- If you don't have a decent weapon proficiency in the first place and are looking for a 1-handed weapon, the bastard sword is a nice weapon
- You find it more often in APs than falcatas
Plus what others said :-)
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And as previously stated, 'bastard' is a much more interesting adjective than 'long'.
That depends on the context. I like it better when the girls call me long.
because i can say the word 'bastard' and not get in trouble for itHow is "Bastard" a bad word? Who would get you in trouble?
In the literal sense, a Bastard is a child born out of wedlock, and at one time, it was a mark of shame due to that fact.
I am a Bastard, as are many others.
well i'm just old i guess. when i was a kid saying 'bastard' was just as bad as saying 's@~%' or any of the other words i say around kids as often as possible now.
never liked the concept of words being 'bad' anyway. messages are bad, the words used to convey those messages are meaningless without the context of the message.
anyway sorry to derail your thread.
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Because a bastard sword is the closest you can get to making Elric as a Bladebound Magus without breaking the Pathfinder rules?
LOL. Stormbringer is a greatsword, but bladebound magus (Come on... they get a "Black Blade"? It's frickin' Elric. Mind you, I think they are awesome. I love Elric) is limited to one handed slashing weapons, hence that makes the bastard sword their best and closest to a greatsword option. :Þ
Because a bastard sword is the closest you can get to making Elric as a Bladebound Magus without breaking the Pathfinder rules?
LOL. Stormbringer is a greatsword, but bladebound magus (Come on... they get a "Black Blade"? It's frickin' Elric. Mind you, I think they are awesome. I love Elric) is limited to one handed slashing weapons, hence that makes the bastard sword their best and closest to a greatsword option. :Þ
no it really is stormbringer. michael moorcock just never told you that melniboneans and humans from that world were just all small sized, so stormbringer is a small sized greatsword = 1d10 = bastard sword.
Then Stormbringer's shape began to change, writhing and curling above the body of the albino, finally to stand astraddle it.
The entity that was Stormbringer, last manifestation of Chaos which would remain with this new world as it grew, looked down on the corpse of Elric of Melnibone and smiled.
"Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou!"
Best damn quote from a magic item ever :)