Pacific Rim: Del Toro was yanked from At the Mountains of Madness to do this?


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I loved the part where Gipsy used a supertanker as a baseball bat! That was a pure awesome display of the power behind the Jaegar.

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Jason S wrote:
The other criticism is about the sword. Some of that is valid, but I think the sword wasn't used because it was an augmentation that Raleigh didn't know about;

Which is a problem due to the fact that you're not supposed to be able to hide things while in the drift.

Of course, I like this explanation.


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I guess I don't watch movies with a critical eye open--the issue with the sword never occurred to me until it was brought up in this thread...

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Eh, the bigger question was why they waited on land for the kaiju to appear rather than pulling guard on the rift. I can think of a few reasons, but it does seem pretty silly.


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
I saw Thor: Dark World yesterday and I thought it was a much better F/SF Movie with Stringer Bell.

Hey that's just fine, T:DW was an awesome movie period.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Eh, the bigger question was why they waited on land for the kaiju to appear rather than pulling guard on the rift. I can think of a few reasons, but it does seem pretty silly.

Totally silly.

Every good FPS player knows that Spawn Camping is a winning strategy.

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There's wear and tear on the jaegers, possible issues with drifting for hours on end.

Having pulled guard duty, I can sympathize with them not wanting to spend 8-12 hour shifts at the bottom of the ocean.


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Whats wrong with guard duty? You mean you didn't like sitting on a gat in a rain filled scrape at 3am in the freezing cold waiting on an enemy you know probably wasn't coming?

Ahh Infantry.

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Yeah, guard duty sucks bad. Especially during winter, when you fall asleep and wake up buried in snow. Me and a few of my mates almost died that winter.


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It's character building. Great for morale.

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Yeah, also one of the reasons 99% of us left the army after the mandatory six months of boot camp.


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this covers all the "why didn't they's" pretty well.

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Good vid.

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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
this covers all the "why didn't they's" pretty well.

Not really. Most of his comments come off as whiny bit****g and nitpicks. I can deconstruct pretty much all of them.

Let's begin:

1. There is nothing wrong with a vocabulary lesson. God forbid someone tries to teach us something.
2. Nothing wrong with a narrator either.
3,4. Moviegoers questioning everything is annoying.
5. Ok, this one is maybe a little valid. But hey. I would have whined about fighter jets flying that close to a giant freaking monster rampaging through their city.
6. Just tens of thousands died? Well, I assume that US government would have evacuated everything around the monster.
7. I don't get why is it so unthinkable that a Kaiju would hit Cabo. It's not like they choose where to rampage.
8. Why does the archive footage in black and white even upset him? It looks cooler that way. And the movie runs on the rule of cool.
9. Kinda yeah. But not that cheezy.
10. Again, nothing wrong with a narrator.
11. Oh no, a bass horn used to introduce a jaeger. How cliche. What a dick.
12. Legitimate.
13. Cannon loaded up immediately because they were shooting several times. Raleigh was charging it to kill the kaiju in one big blast the second time. It can be freaking seen as it glows stronger.
14. BS
15. Didn't even remind me of the avengers.
16. Most people unfortunately believe their governments.
17. Yeah, names are a little silly, but this is a movie that runs on the rule of cool like i mentioned.
18. Eh, he was an annoying prick. Felt good when Raleigh beat the living crap out of him.
19. Eh, feels more "militaristic"?
20. Suspense?
21. Oh no, how dare they show a nosebleed?
22. They colonize and then they consume. How dumb is this guy?
23. Yeah, I too would shove environmental messages EVERYWHERE. We are not destroying the earth. Earth will be fine. We are screwing ourselves up. I don't remember any other year where 20th of November had 20 degrees Celsius during the day.
24. Legit i would say. But still handled well.
25. Maybe the water soothes him? Maybe he meditates there too? Maybe he picked to have pools of water? I mean i get a distinct Japanese philosophy feel out of Idris Elba in this movie.
26. Legit.
27. This dude obviously doesn't understand shifts and well, i assume that the drift is still a pretty big strain on the brain. Presumably, one cannot patrol for more then 3-4 hours a day.
28. Flying them out is faster then Jaegers walking?
29. Collateral damage? Pollution? Inaccuracy?
30. A different design? God forbid that people would experiment?
31. Drama. Kinda legit.
32. Too much money and no movie then. There is such a thing called willing suspension of disbelief. This dude does not have it.
33. Tactics? Why would they finish when he's done. They can rampage and look for the scientist dude.
34. Fast forward?
35. He disabled them dumbass.
36. Hurts more to hit like that. Plus rule of cool.
37. The kaiju was looking for the scientist dude.
38. A lot of cover, a fast moving monster. It works. Make a replica of Hong Kong to scale where you would be a jaeger and your friend would be a kaiju. Try to find him during night time in the rain.
39. Needs time to fill the sac?
40. Kinda legit.
41. She was pressing the buttons preparing to vent coolant. Plus the voice.
42. Yeah, the sword thing is pretty legit.
43. Not that close.
44. And they saved the rest of it?
45. It's an omage movie idiot. OMAGE!
46. So? Cliches are there for a reason.
47. That little bit ago could have been hours dumbass. Movie time. Plus they also had the time to repair both jaegers.
48. Still damn cool though. Cliches can be a good thing. Whiner.
49. Dramatic tension. Plus EMP probably knocked out all comms and they only bothered to repair the ones neaded for them to communicate with the jaegers.
50. Fast one. Very.
51. Again. Willing suspension of disbelief. Plus water took the brunt of the force.
52. Tough bastard. Nothing wrong there.
53. A dimension which is CONNECTED WITH OURS
54. Looks cooler that way anyway.
55. It was pretty badass.

All in all, aside from 3 legit problems and 1 kinda legit one, this dude is a rambling, nitpicky, whiner who obviously went to the movies to see something else.
And he didn't even mention the analog/nuclear thing. At all.

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Regardless, as my wife said, "I still enjoyed the movie."


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Nit pickers can kiss the fattest part of my ass. The movie rocked. At least we know who to leave behind when the kaiju come to decimate humanity.

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This movie is really hard not to enjoy. Even my mother (who falls asleep during movies) didn't fall asleep. For two and a half freaking hours.


As for why the F-22s engaged with guns at pointblank range: they'd fired all their missiles to no effect. What else were they going to do, give up and go home?

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I assume that any sane, reasonable person would turn around and get bigger guns to try to kill the monster with. If missiles did squat, why the heck would they waste minigun ammo on a skin too thick to be penetrated.
I myself would immediately start hitting it with guided missiles and then bomb it with smart bombs ending it with a fuel bomb.


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I figured they were hoping to get a sensitive spot. Granted my suggestion would have been "go for the eyes Boo, go for the eyes!"


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The "Everything Wrong With..." I think is meant as humor, not necessarily film critiques. I find them amusing even for the movies I like


Freehold DM wrote:
Nit pickers can kiss the fattest part of my ass. The movie rocked. At least we know who to leave behind when the kaiju come to decimate humanity.

I just wish that Joss Whedon did the flick. He would've made it centered around the Japanese copilot, and would've done a better movie.

He knows how to write women's parts.

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And we would be treated to annoying shots of her bare feet every ten minutes. No thanks.

And no, he doesn't.


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I always thought the whole Analog/Digital thing reminded me of Giant Robo, where the BBG was able to shut down most anything he wanted because he could control the new clean energy source everything used, but 'surprise' Giant Robo would still run, because it was built using earlier tech. (Was nuclear)

Maybe it was only me, but i enjoyed it when i saw it as an instant head nod.


Hama wrote:
Not really. Most of his comments come off as whiny bit****g and nitpicks. I can deconstruct pretty much all of them.

+1 everything Hama said, except I didn't have time to type it out. :)


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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
I just wish that Joss Whedon did the flick. He would've made it centered around the Japanese copilot, and would've done a better movie.

??? From where I sat, the story was centered around Mako. Hell, you could make the case that putting a camera on Raleigh was merely a narrative device to tell Mako’s story!

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
He knows how to write women's parts.

NOPE. And I say this as a diehard fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

(Seriously: don’t get me started. When Whedon decided to take the mantle of ‘hero’ away from the title character and give it to Spike for the last two seasons, what he did to the rest of the characters including the titular one in pursuit of that goal... NOPE.)


YAY INCEPTION MUSIC!!!


Asgard is such a beautiful realm, filled with gorgeous CGI.


Hama wrote:

And we would be treated to annoying shots of her bare feet every ten minutes. No thanks.

And no, he doesn't.

What, you don't like foot fetish? ;)


Feet are cool.


Sissyl wrote:
Feet are cool.

That is why I wear socks.

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QXL99 wrote:
Hama wrote:

And we would be treated to annoying shots of her bare feet every ten minutes. No thanks.

And no, he doesn't.

What, you don't like foot fetish? ;)

No. I'm a boob man myself.


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Nit pickers can kiss the fattest part of my ass. The movie rocked. At least we know who to leave behind when the kaiju come to decimate humanity.

I just wish that Joss Whedon did the flick. He would've made it centered around the Japanese copilot, and would've done a better movie.

He knows how to write women's parts.

no he wouldn't, and no, he doesn't. Rather tosay with that last, women were not suffering in obscurity and awful roles until he arrived, which is yet another mantra his more hive mentality fans drone on and on and on about like the low soothing buzz of a beehive.

Not that I'm critical or anything. ...


Hama wrote:

And we would be treated to annoying shots of her bare feet every ten minutes. No thanks.

And no, he doesn't.

..dif not know this about whedon. While he is entitled to his fetishes, this is one that I can appreciate and even understand, but not one that I share.


Rathendar wrote:

I always thought the whole Analog/Digital thing reminded me of Giant Robo, where the BBG was able to shut down most anything he wanted because he could control the new clean energy source everything used, but 'surprise' Giant Robo would still run, because it was built using earlier tech. (Was nuclear)

Maybe it was only me, but i enjoyed it when i saw it as an instant head nod.

interesting....


Trace Coburn wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
I just wish that Joss Whedon did the flick. He would've made it centered around the Japanese copilot, and would've done a better movie.

??? From where I sat, the story was centered around Mako. Hell, you could make the case that putting a camera on Raleigh was merely a narrative device to tell Mako’s story!

Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
He knows how to write women's parts.

NOPE. And I say this as a diehard fan of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

(Seriously: don’t get me started. When Whedon decided to take the mantle of ‘hero’ away from the title character and give it to Spike for the last two seasons, what he did to the rest of the characters including the titular one in pursuit of that goal... NOPE.)

firm handshake


Finally saw it this weekend. I enjoyed it a lot. The only moments that made me go "Wait, what?" despite the sheer implausibility of the whole movie were

Spoiler:
1) The winged kaiju able to fly high enough by flapping its wings that it managed to leave the atmosphere. 2) The genetically-engineered/cloned/created for war kaiju a)finding time to get busy and thus become pregnant and b) it being created with working reproductive organs to begin with. Seriously, that whole latter scene with the baby could have been skipped.

Still, it was a lot of fun.


Spoiler:
I kind of figured that the pregnancy was innate in the creature - it was created as a time bomb thing, or something, where it would eventually hatch and go off if the humans didn't find it first.


Orthos wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

true. Also a Godzilla reference.

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So, I finally got around to seeing this movie (because it was on HBO, natch), and, uh, it was pretty stupid.

Here's my I'm-so-smart-at-finding-plotholes issue: the most effective weapon (other than the sword) for fighting the kaiju was the self-destruct sequences used in the final fight scene by Stringer Bell and Jax. Now, I'm no weapons engineer, but you know what else explodes and is a lot cheaper and easier to manufacture than giant robots (plus, doesn't require two pilots)? Bombs.

Heck, they could always create a bomb and fill it with swords, thereby combining the two most deadly weapons in the world! The kaiju wouldn't stand a chance.


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Sebastian wrote:

So, I finally got around to seeing this movie (because it was on HBO, natch), and, uh, it was pretty stupid.

Here's my I'm-so-smart-at-finding-plotholes issue: the most effective weapon (other than the sword) for fighting the kaiju was the self-destruct sequences used in the final fight scene by Stringer Bell and Jax. Now, I'm no weapons engineer, but you know what else explodes and is a lot cheaper and easier to manufacture than giant robots (plus, doesn't require two pilots)? Bombs.

Heck, they could always create a bomb and fill it with katanas, thereby combining the two most deadly weapons in the world! The kaiju wouldn't stand a chance.

fify


Sebastian wrote:

So, I finally got around to seeing this movie (because it was on HBO, natch), and, uh, it was pretty stupid.

Here's my I'm-so-smart-at-finding-plotholes issue: the most effective weapon (other than the sword) for fighting the kaiju was the self-destruct sequences used in the final fight scene by Stringer Bell and Jax. Now, I'm no weapons engineer, but you know what else explodes and is a lot cheaper and easier to manufacture than giant robots (plus, doesn't require two pilots)? Bombs.

Heck, they could always create a bomb and fill it with swords, thereby combining the two most deadly weapons in the world! The kaiju wouldn't stand a chance.

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PACIFIC RIM 2 will be released on 7 April, 2017. There will also be an animated spin-off series.


Huzzah!


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Werthead wrote:
PACIFIC RIM 2 will be released on 7 April, 2017. There will also be an animated spin-off series.

Oh man, this is the perfect end to a great day. Been a rough couple of weeks, but today involved an unbelievably good lunch with work mates, and a surprisingly easy day at work; followed by beer, pizza from my favourite takeawy and a game of Illuminati with friends; and now I find out that one of my two favourite films of last year (and one of my favourites outright) has a confirmed sequel. Life is good.


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Werthead wrote:
PACIFIC RIM 2 will be released on 7 April, 2017. There will also be an animated spin-off series.

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I can't wait for the sequel, hopefully the animated series comes out before 2017, like next year maybe:)


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Squee! :D

This news pretty much makes my month. The kidlet is gonna be over the moon when I tell him. Pacific Rim is our favorite movie. :)

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Dragon78 wrote:
Of course it is hammy and over acted, what would expect from a movie about giant robots vs giant monsters. It comes with the territory since it is inspired by live action and animated shows/movies about the same thing from japan. Lets face it, the whole giant robot and giant monster stuff is just going to be silly and unrealistic if you think too much about it. It is a shame people can't enjoy movies anymore without only thinking of it's flaws.

That's just rude.

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And my hope for awesome stand alone movies continues to dwindle :(

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