Can Wall of Ice turn corners (make L shape, squares, etc.)?


Rules Questions


Can Wall of Ice turn corners (make L shape, squares, etc.)?

Can ANY Wall spells do that?


Edge case: yes.

If you are above the walls, and have line of effect and so long as you follow the casting restrictions for each wall.


Ender730 wrote:
Can Wall of Ice turn corners (make L shape, squares, etc.)?

Nope.

Wall of Ice: "Effect anchored plane of ice, up to one 10-ft. square/level, or hemisphere of ice with a radius of up to 3 ft. + 1 ft./level"

Ender730 wrote:
Can ANY Wall spells do that?

(S) Shapeable: "If an area or effect entry ends with “(S),” you can shape the spell. A shaped effect or area can have no dimension smaller than 10 feet. Many effects or areas are given as cubes to make it easy to model irregular shapes. Three-dimensional volumes are most often needed to define aerial or underwater effects and areas."

Example:
Wall of Stone: "Effect stone wall whose area is up to one 5-ft. square/level (S)"


Oh wow, I had no idea that's what that (S) symbol means. Ended up looking through all the Wall spells to check it out, that's pretty cool.

Somewhat related, I was reading the Wall of Suppression, and noticed that it's missing the usual line about evoking the wall to appear where creatures are. Has this ever been clarified whether it's possible or not?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber

I'm pretty sure they're all meant to be straight lines without cornering.

The Magic chapter doesn't mention how much control you have over the shape of Wall spells specifically and most of the Wall descriptions make no mention of being able to turn corners or even write your name in cursive.

Wall of Stone is the only Wall spell I know of that allows some shaping but, even then, the descriptions given suggest straight planes and not curves or corners.

Allowing walls to corner also tends to make them too incredibly useful. I've played in a campaign where the GM let Walls bend and it was a nightmare. Every session would turn into a game of Snake DOS between the GM, the sorcerer and the cleric while everyone else sat around waiting to be able to move again. A 40x40 room could suddenly be completely filled with one neverending Blade Barrier or Wall of Thorns, the flying sorcerer could burn down an entire village with a single Widened Wall of Fire. It got stupid fast.

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