Fantastic, im sure mt death will only be minorly saddening
I cannot commit to even minor sadness until you've completed a full session first. Sorry, that's just the way things go around here...
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Session 12 Experience
Players: Remington, Tor'Khan, Urf, Kardes, Harlston
Mosquito, Giant x10: 2000
Monks x2: 2400
Abbot Grosso: 3200
Homunculus Collective: 1200
Traps: 4000
Rescue Prisoners: 1000
Total: 13800
Divided by 5: 2760
Fatality: Remington & Puppy.
Players: Harlston, Tor'Khan, Urf, Kardes
Cyclops: 1600
Vampiric Mist x3: 2400
Zombie x3: 600
Bypass Cauldron Trap: 1200
Total: 5800
Divided by 4: 1450
If you leveled please send me an updated character sheet.
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Also you have the bundle of parchments that Disintegrate a few minutes after shuffling through them. You can ask 5 questions about Rappan Athuk and its surrounding area. I'll answer them as best as I can. You can ask basic questions like what creatures are enslaving the Thelaroi, who controls Rappan Athuk, whats the general difficulty of certain level, what creatures can I expect to encounter on a certain level, etc.
RIP: Remington. You were my chosen one until the spirits desired you among them.
Previous Group Funds: 2,025gp
Session 12 Loot Obtained:
+1 Amulet of Mighty Fists (2000)
Undeadbane Amulet of Mighty Fists (2000)
+1 Chain Shirt (700)
Lesser Rod of Elemental [Cold] (1500 if Minor, or 5500 if Normal)
2 Cloak of Resistance +1 (500)x2
Sandals of Quick Reaction (2000) - Urf
10 Sleep Arrows - One 2 Lightning Javelins - Urf
Bag of Holding, Rank I(1250)
Consumables:
Elixir of Stone to Flesh, 4 doses
Potions Waterbreath, Levitation CL3
Barkskin (CL3)
Energy Resistance (Fire) (CL3)
Heroism (CL3)
7 AntiToxin
2 Acid Flask
9 Potions Cure Light (2 Cure serious handed out)
1 Flask Slimy Doom
1 Elixir All-Seeing Doom (No.)
Treasure:
400gp+700gp
6x Sapphire 150 = 900gp
I'd vote asking about the Thelaroi is a good start, although we may also want to ask specifically where so we don't randomly walk into a hellpit we don't need to. :P Also could ask where the other cube pieces can be located if applicable.
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Two other items found. These items are tainted evil. So finding a buyer will only get you a quarter of its value. Alternatively they could be destroyed. Destroying the items will get the group 1/10 of the experience of its cost.
Hand of the Revenant: 1050
Elixir of the All-Seeing Doom: 666
Hand of the Revenant
Aura moderate necromancy; CL 7th
Slot neck; Price 21,000 gp; Weight 2 lbs.
DESCRIPTION
This mummified member casts spectral hand 3/day
(CL 7th). If affixed to the stump of a severed hand, its
“wielder” can use chill touch at will, but every time
the hand drains a point of Strength, they have to
succeed at a DC 16 Will save or move one step closer
to chaotic evil alignment. On chaotic evil characters,
the hand grants +2 natural AC bonus.
CONSTRUCTION
Requirements Craft Wondrous Item, chill touch,
spectral hand; Cost 10,500 gp
Elixir of All-Seeing Doom
Aura moderate necromancy [evil]; CL 12th
Slot –; Weight –; Price 13,332 gp
DESCRIPTION
This potion radiates evil if detected for. It was
created from strong venoms, infused with disease
and buried under the earth for six years. Bits of dried
earth still cling to the black glass. Drinking the elixir
initiates a terrible transformation unless the imbiber
succeeds at a DC 28 Fortitude save. In 1d6 days,
small warts and boils start to appear on the body.
At this stage, a cure disease and a remove curse
spell cast by a 7th or higher level cleric gets rid of the
infection. After this time has passed, the boils grow
and pop open, revealing hundreds of tiny frog eyes.
The imbiber may see with them as per a robe of eyes,
but the horrendous pain causes 1 point of Con and Str
damage each day (DC 18 Fortitude save or damage
is permanent). At this stage, a heal spell is also
necessary for recovery. Once the victim is reduced
to 1 Con/Str or a month elapses, he dissolves into a
vile mass that generates 666 killer frogs (Pathfinder
Roleplaying Game Bestiary, “Frog, Giant”). Cutting
off, burning or otherwise removing eyes is of no use,
as they regrow in a day with double ability damage
caused.
CONSTRUCTION
Requirements Brew Potion, bestow curse, polymorph
any object, cleric of Tsathogga; Cost 6,666 gp
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Update Dungeon Delving Info: Area Explored
Mouth of Doom Complex: Four Levels. Mouth of Doom, Demon Gullet, Fountain of Pestilence, & Teleportal Maze: The Fountain of Pestilence has exit to the Gut. The Gut is an underground tunnel that leads to Rappan Athuk Main Complex. At least two ways into Rappan Athuk through those tunnels. One known way is to a Temple of Orcus.
Abandoned Bastion: This was Warlord Jang hideout. Outside of Rappan Athuk but connected to the complex. Two Possible exits. One through double iron doors that radiate extreme heat and is the prison of the Thelaroi. The second exit was a trap staircase that goes at least 100s of feet beneath the bastion.
The Graveyard: The Well and the Mausoleum. The Mausoleum leads to level 1. There is were the group was tricked by the drowning woman.
Level 1: Exit found leads to the second level 2.
Level 2: Was only partially explored. This was the liar of the mad barbarian Marthek.
Cloister of the Frog God: Currently Exploring.
Dragonborn Marshes: The Troll Mound.
I rolled up a guy. let me know what you think.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0_u-D54uCn-QnBmWkMyc0ZVREE/edit?usp=sharin g
There were also the valuable books from the fireball trap room and if the instructions on creating super zombies were worth anything?
Hisami, a couple things on the Inquisitor.
If the Guided Weapon is a +1 bonus like I'm seeing, your bow would cost 8375, not 4375. It also appears to be intended for melee weapons, seeing that it replaces strength for wisdom.
If it's allowed for your bow, then it's fine, but all your physical skills are totally tanked . Better hope we never have to climb or jump anything again. =P
Also consider looking at the Spellkiller Inquisition or Travel Domain.
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There were also the valuable books from the fireball trap room and if the instructions on creating super zombies were worth anything?
Total Value of the Books are 1,100gp.
On the second item it has no value or value to only a select few. So here is the books descriptions...
The documents in the leather case reveal the procedure to create
specially enchanted zombies. This method requires 250 gp worth of
material components per zombie, a fully equipped laboratory and a DC 22
Craft (Alchemy) check. The resulting zombies have maximum hit points.
The papers are written in a very unclear shorthand (Alchemy DC 24 to
figure out). The GM should award experience to a good character who
destroys them.
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I rolled up a guy. let me know what you think.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0_u-D54uCn-QnBmWkMyc0ZVREE/edit?usp=sharin g
Norgorber you have to changed out to a campaign deity. Check your item cost and hps are not maxed.
Hps are Max at 1st. Average each level after. Unless you choose to roll in front of me.
Off the top of my head my votes would be
Who imprisons the Thelaroi and where are they kept?
(Potential Follow Up Questions)
What is the biggest threat (where) within the first ten levels?
What is down the well?
Who or what defends the temple of Orcus?
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Off the top of my head my votes would be
Who imprisons the Thelaroi and where are they kept?
(Potential Follow Up Questions)What is the biggest threat (where) within the first ten levels?
What is down the well?
Who or what defends the temple of Orcus?
1. The Dark Thelaroi banished their surviving enemies(Grey Thelaroi) to distant dimensions, binding them into prisons where time was held immobile in an endless stasis. The entrance to the Prison of Time is in the Abandoned Bastion level. It is rumored that beings of time watch over the imprisoned Thelaroi and a simple touch ages creatures.
2. The biggest threat is a creature called the Ravager. There is a secret vault that contains challenges and rewards of "epic" proportion. But finding the three keys and its entrance is almost impossible.
3. Cave complex and a Dead Wizard and his Construct Guardians.
4. High Cleric Zehn oversees the temple with acolytes, demons, and a spectral wizard at his command. The Upper Temple of Orcus is but one of three temples located within Rappan Athuk. It is rumored that Orcus himself resides on the lowest level of the complex and to have any chance of slaying him you must destroy all three temples....
Good stuff. Would you mind if our last question was a follow-up or do we need an entirely new topic for it?
Hello all,
My name is Adrian and I'll be joining you guys tomorrow for a shot at surviving the dreaded Rappan Athuk. I'll be playing a Dwarven Off-tank Trapper named Arngrim Stonestrong.
Just a little background on Arngrim. He comes from a place where they see Rappan Athuk as a place to prove one self worthy of the title Master Ranger. Having trained all his life solely to brave the dangers of this cursed dungeon, he now comes forward to challenge the evil within. He ventures forward as his ancestors did before him, vowing to make his bloodline proud!...or die trying.
See you all tomorrow.
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So Kardes is still undecided on his latest feat. I was thinking sorcerous strike (adding d6+# of fire dmg to an unarmed attack), but would working on a magical weapon be more beneficial later down the road? That would allow a different feat, but not quite sure what to take if I don't get sorcerous strike. Kardes is definitely gearing more towards a melee caster.
Any ideas are appreciated.
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Is your build all based around fire damage? If it is I would probably suggest to add some diversity to it. As the group advances I would gather you will be encountering more outsiders. Just based on the info you guys have gathered you know that Orcus resides in Rappan Athuk and he is a demonlord. Safe to say you will encounter some demons/daemons down the road. Also as the group scales there are going to be more creatures with DR and SR built into them
If you get dispel magic might I suggest
Arcane Trap Suppressor
Your magic can suppress magic traps longer than usual.
Prerequisites: Ability to cast dispel magic or greater dispel magic as a spell or spell-like ability.
Benefit: When you target a magic trap with dispel magic or greater dispel magic, if your caster level check exceeds the Disable Device DC of the trap, the trap is disabled for 1d4 minutes.
Normal: Dispel magic suppresses an item's magical properties for 1d4 rounds.
There was word that the Ranger Arngrim went temporarily insane after staring at things now mortal is supposed to lay eyes upon in the depth of Rappan Athuk. Those closest to him however, were left wondering what it was that really drove him insane as they heard him babble in a madman's tone "Oh Urfy boy....the pipes, the pipes are calling....", all the while drinking from what appeared to be a very old wine bottle.
Previous Group Funds: 2,025gpSession 12 Loot Obtained:
+1 Amulet of Mighty Fists (2000)
Undeadbane Amulet of Mighty Fists (2000)
+1 Chain Shirt (700)
Lesser Rod of Elemental [Cold] (1500 if Minor, or 5500 if Normal) - Kardes
1 Cloak of Resistance +1 (500) (Other to Arngrim)
Sandals of Quick Reaction (2000) - Urf
10 Sleep Arrows - One 2 Lightning Javelins - Urf
Bag of Holding, Rank I(1250) - Tor'Khan
Hand of the Revenant (1/4 value, 5250)
Elixir of All-Seeing Doom (1/4 value, 3333)Consumables:
Elixir of Stone to Flesh, 4 doses
Potions Waterbreath, Levitation CL3
Barkskin (CL3)
Energy Resistance (Fire) (CL3)
Heroism (CL3)
7 AntiToxin
2 Acid Flask
4 Potions Cure Light (2 Cure serious handed out, Urf and Kardes)
1 Flask Slimy Doom
1 Elixir All-Seeing Doom (No.)
2 Cure Serious Potions (1 to Urf, 1 to Arngrim)
Session 13 Loot Obtained:
Body Wrap of Mighty Strikes +1 (1500)Vest of Surgery (1500)
Pearl of Power (500) - Tor'Khan
Hunter's Band (5500) - Arngrim
Figurine of Wondrous Power, Bronze Griffon (5000)
Masterwork Short Sword (152)
Treasure:
300gp
Blocks of Orange Wax x2 (?)
Valuable books - 1,100gp
Silver Mirror in black velvet(?)
2 Fine Vintage Wines (?)
3 Fine Crystal Bottles (?)
Total Party Funds: 20,360gp, 25,360 with sale of griffon figurine
Urf, you may sell the unwanted items towards your own starting equipment.
In this case, 1175 for the Longaxe, 500 for the quick runners, 2000 for
the sandals of quick reaction.
Keep in mind you also have 2 Cure Serious potions and 2 Lightning Javelins (which aren't really thrown weapons, so look them up before you use them for reals :P)
Also, if you are starting a ranger, let us know so we can keep the amulet of mighty fists and chain shirt for your companion.
While we are relatively wealthy and have more than likely covered all the basics when it comes to weapons, defensive items, etc. We are still under the umbrella of the minor item categories, so I would recommend we flush out what we can with our wealth.
Amulet of Natural Armor/Ring of Protection +1 for
Adrian/Zach's characters if they need them (2000 each)
Cloak of Resistance +1 Upgrade to +2 (3000)
Other possible expenditures:
+2 Armor Upgrades (3000), +2 Weapon Upgrades (6000)
Phylactery of Positive Channeling (Harlston) - 11,000
Eyes of the Eagle - 2500 (Trapper)
Goggles of Minute Seeing - 2500 (Trapper) to swap out for traps.
Pearl of Power (2nd) (4000) for myself and/or Harlston
150gpx2 for Scroll of See Invisibility and/or glitterdust so I can add them to my spells known and we can be prepared for the Inner cloister.
If nothing else, I could take 6,000 to upgrade my mask enchantment to a +4. This would take a week to go into effect if we have some downtime, so the priority is pretty low.
I have an Amulet of Natural Armor, but not a Ring of Protection.
If it's ok with everyone, I would very much like a Bashing Heavy Steel Shield. Come level six that will help me with both damage and survivability. I'm going for more of a tank build with damage coming from TWF once I get Shield Master at lvl 6. Dex belt can also help me with AC/Touch.
I'll leave it to your discretion though.
Ring is easily done, belt wouldn't stack with a STR belt if you'd be after that.
But from what I can tell you don't seem to be a STR based fighter? Finesse maybe? I thought you were an archer at first seeing those damage rolls. :P
So you use Shield Slam and soon Shield Master?
A +1 Bashing spiked heavy shield will do attack +1 and 2d6+(.5 STR?)+1 on a bash. Not bad.
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Blocks of Orange Wax x2 15gp each
Silver Mirror in black velvet 22gp
2 Fine Vintage Wines 10 gp each
3 Fine Crystal Bottles 25gp each
Group is currently not in down time until Cloister is cleansed for Father Reswald. The trading outpost can only provide basic healing from Reswald and basic supplies. You would have to return to Zelkors Ferry to have any chance at acquiring any additional items.
You are more then welcome to gather a wishlist of item for your next time in Zelkor Ferry. Any item above minor are not available.
A trip to Bard's Gate would be required to get something of greater value. And that would have to be built as a side trek for the future.
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Session 13 Experience
Players: Urf, Arngrim, Tor'Khan, Harlston, Kardes
Tarantella Trap: 1600
Pit Trap: 600
Albine X3: 3600
Green Slime: 1200
Total: 7000
Divided by 5: 1400
Players: Urf, Arngrim, Tor'Khan, Harlston, Kardes, One
Harpy X3: 3600
Drowned: 3200
Portcullis Trap: 1600
Total: 8400
Divided by 6: 1400
Players: Arngrim, Tor'Khan, Harlston, Kardes, One
Skin Kites x7: 4200
Divided by 5: 840
If you choose to destroy the evil items
Hand of the Revenant: 1050
Elixir of the All-Seeing Doom: 666
Total 1716
Divided by 6: 286
Obituaries: Urf. Drowned on Dry Ground....
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Experience Number Crunch. Last session we had some confusion on exp.
So total experience from session 1 to 13 is 32,798. Harlston should be at that right now since he started at session 1 and hasn't missed one.
Tor'Kahn started session 8. So session 8-13 plus 9k for 4th level start is 29,378
This doesn't include exp from the evil items.
If anyone need me to give them a total on their experience just give me a heads up.
For anyone new we are using medium experience track. So if you started at 5th level that would be 15k plus whatever you earned.
+1 minor sadness for Urf for making it past the first-session prerequisite prior to dying.
Weird that the cheaper bracers are actually far better than the archery bracers. But I'm sure we can swing that.
Just wondering, why the poisoner's gloves on the alchemist? Figured you'd get the falcon's aim there, too.
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I have the One at 21493. If I remember correctly you started at 3rd level.
Alchemist over Orcale. Oracle is fine except mystery has to be changed out.
There was an addendum to Character Creation Rules for new players. I know Arngrim and Urf used it. Min stat 10 prior to racial adjustment. So going forward any new character should follow that. Anything prior is grandfathered.
If anyone has an animal companion. Companions always get average hps per HD. Even 1st HD.
HPs should be max 1st level. Average(per PFS rules) or you can choose to roll them.
D6: 4 hp per level
D8: 5 hp per level
D10 6 hp per level
D12 7 hp per level
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I have Kardes/Malicar at 27978. You should be 6th level at this point. If I recall you started at session 7.
Urf: 22010
Arngrim: 18640
At some point in the game we will switch over to slow track for exp. Rappan Athuk is very large dungeon/wilderness area. Even though we played 13 sessions we only scratch the surface of the complex. There is at least 40 plus levels or areas that you guys haven't seen. The group will eventually just outpace certain levels. With some area being relative short or having multiple maps/dimensions to it.
For example the Cloister of the Frog God is a side trek wilderness area. Not even part of the complex and it consist of quite a bit of material. So with the journey to the Cloister and Exploring the Cloister that alone will eat up at least 4 to 5 sessions.
I've also been going through the log for the finances prior to my starting.
Couple of changes based on that. It looks as though Torald had spent the group money prior to session 7, but then ceased to exist.
Miscalculation in Session 7 treasure (1502 vs 2602): +1100
Torald's purchase prior to session 7: +1177
Group had already purchased Lesser Restoration Wand: +4500
Total added funds: 6,777gp
I'm not keeping track of any consumables prior to my arrival, however the scrolls of Cure Disease were purchased prior to session 7 and if they had not been used at that point, I will go ahead and add them to the current consumables list. Harlston has been keeping track of wand charges, so if he spent any on session 7 he should have that marked.
Total Party Funds: 25,360+6,777 = 32,137gp
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Brian storming Wealth by Level. So I'm been thinking about WBL and character deaths. Trying to find a balance between the two. So if a 5th level character dies with 10k wealth. The group acquires his gear. Then we create another 5th level character with 10k wealth. Then he dies. Group sells off his gear. Then we create another 5th level character with 10k wealth.........
So what do you think is a fair trade off for that?
My suggestion would be you can sell the character gear at market price and lets say you get 5k for it. The other 5k has to be taken out of the group funds. Or if their is gear that serves a new character just transfer it.
Do you think that is fair?
Trying to figure things out before they get to wonky.
Ultimately, I suppose we are trying to mitigate inflation of funds caused by introducing new wealth from character re-rolls. What we did for Adjo's death was about right, I think.
If a character dies, so far, we seem to be aiming to fulfill the same role in the group, just using a different class. If multiple die in one session, the same is likely to be true.
Therefore, keeping all of the equipment and selling or transferring what the new character can't use seems to be an easy way to keep the wealth even. If a significant amount of gear is unusable by the new character, perhaps allow their starting wealth to be 75% of their total gear value as opposed to 50%, and the party keeps nothing.
Otherwise you risk potentially deducting party wealth on a death, at this level and onward. In your example, rather than selling the gear, it'd of equivalent net cost to simply pay to have the character resurrected with all of his gear intact. And though that's common at a certain level in a campaign, the characters aren't story-bound so I like the idea of an ensemble cast of heroes better than just struggling to keep the same original party together.
I meant to say new characters get only mundane starting items and use/give away/sell off the gear of their predecessor. But if they can't use much/any of the gear they can shred it all and take 75% of its value.
Evil items wouldn't level you up, wouldn't even break 22k. :P
They are worth a big chunk of gold still, so that's my vote.
Ring is easily done, belt wouldn't stack with a STR belt if you'd be after that.
But from what I can tell you don't seem to be a STR based fighter? Finesse maybe? I thought you were an archer at first seeing those damage rolls. :P
So you use Shield Slam and soon Shield Master?
A +1 Bashing spiked heavy shield will do attack +1 and 2d6+(.5 STR?)+1 on a bash. Not bad.
Thank you for the ring.
I dumped all my stats into Con and Wis with a dip into dex since I figured you guys could handle the damage output. So for all intents and purposes think of me as the meat tank when in combat. And I'm probably going to pick up weapon finesse and switch to a light weapon in the long run. As of right now though, without Shield Master, the penalties to try and shield bash are too rough, so I'm focusing on a single attack per round.Since I'm still about 4.3k exp from lvl 6 should I just go for a Dex belt and hold off on the shield for now?
Group is currently not in down time until Cloister is cleansed for Father Reswald. The trading outpost can only provide basic healing from Reswald and basic supplies. You would have to return to Zelkors Ferry to have any chance at acquiring any additional items.
Will Reswald be able to cure my insanity?
As far as the WBL and player's dying. I think everyone has made valid points so far, but shouldn't we also take a look at the current party fund before determining the penalty applied to dead char sold gear. I fear that at higher levels we may not be able to help new characters coming in and maintain the party in good shape at the same time if the percentage is kept fixed while costs grow in a non-linear fashion.
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Reswald will be able to cure you.
As for the WBL and character death. There has to be risk vs reward. If there is no risk to a character death then the character become irrelevant. So there should be some type of minor penalty to a death. Either through WBL or something else. Otherwise a character death become irrelevant since I roll up a new one at the same level and same wealth anyway.
But then again a melee/trapfinding character has more risk then a support character.
I would rather not attach a penalty to exp.
So there should be incentive to keep someone alive.
Well if we go with the new characters are naked and use predecessor's loot concept, it seems like some of our deaths have resulted in gear getting obliterated (Susan, Remington). If stuff like that happens about half the time, and the new character doesn't get any free stuff, then it will be a penalty for sure. Never know when someone carrying like 30% of the party wealth just dissolves into nothing. :P
in some ways i like the send the items with the guy the after life option. Other wise there would be nothing for future adventurers to uncover. Maybe we can get one item form the dead guy to reuse and not to resale?
Just touching base while I have a moment.
Back to work today after a week with the wife. Surgery went well and she is recovering on schedule. Back to work this morning for the first time in a week and I expect there is too much catching up for me even consider being able to make tonight's session.
Next week is looking very possible though. If you leave me a list of active classes after tonight's session so I can tell what the needs will be, I will have something in Steve's hand for review before the weekend begins.