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Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 9

So I have a query. I have a thought for a Mythic-powered item. Since Mythic isn't part of the PRD until it's properly released, however, would this item or others of it's ilk even qualify for RPGSS?

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As Mythic is still in Beta this year, I suspect keeping it for next year might be prudent. But that is only speculation on my part.

Star Voter Season 6, Dedicated Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9

The short answer is: Paul's Ancestral Reliquary dealt with sorcerer bloodline before PFRPG gave bloodlines to sorcerers. How many of advice threads start by saying look at the previous Top 32?

Longer answer.

I think looking at the mythic rules is a smart design choice. The judges have repeatedly told us Open Call is about finding good potential in contestants. They have also told us someone looking at the rules, and inspired by untrodden territory, shows this potential. Someone looking ahead at the product line, shows this potential (or rather someone not looking ahead, is harmed by seeming too similar to something the pros just did).

Items using new rules can get passed SKR's AR advice that would capture a standing-rules based item. Because an 'item' is not the objective of round one. The designer is.

Please take this advice from a geek-having-fun with a grain of salt. You would think after five years I would know how to hit designer vs item. I am obviously no pro.

My concern with using the mythic rules is a matter of Ro-Sham-Bo. Knowing the new rules are an excellent design niche means every wanna-be-designer should be dabbling at them (I will at least make one :). However, if everyone is throwing rock, then I want be throwing paper. Looking at the previous Top 32 we see chalk, coins, cloaks-of-inky-darkness & standards got compared to each other just by their sheer volume. Even the 'gross factor' items were being compared to each other because there were so many of them.

How many mythic rules items will be entered? I kennae. Until I know the question is: are the Mythic rules the paper or the rock?

Of course SuperStar means swinging for the fences so whatever niche you decide it still has to be big. :)

Rock, paper, scissors...


RPG Superstar 2012 Top 16 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Marathon Voter Season 8, Dedicated Voter Season 9 aka motteditor

Personally, I'd be pretty careful, since the rules aren't finalized yet. Yes, Paul's item dealt with the sorcerer bloodlines before they may have been official, but the contest has come a long way since then. That said, if you've got something good enough that you think it can attract the judges' attention, it could pay off. Unlike Curaigh, I'd guess not many people at all will go with Mythic content, so it could be a niche where you can play with it yourself.

Star Voter Season 6, Star Voter Season 9

I suppose I'll leave it in the maybe pile for now. I want a final word on whether it's legal or not before I move forward.

RPG Superstar 2009, Contributor

Obviously, only Paizo can make that call. But, they have established a precedent of allowing stuff posted to the design blog before. So, I'd imagine mythic designs might be allowed. The real question is how much you expect to stand out as a Superstar designer by submitting one? And how prepared are the judges to examine it while the mythic rules are still in flux? For those reasons, I could also see it disallowed.

RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral

This is just a piece of friendly advice, one competitor to another stay away from the mythic rules for the competition. First I believe I read something to the effect of the mythic rules being banned, but more importantly these items are being voted on by the community. A community that may not have read the mythic rules and will unlikely read them just to vote on an item. A community that might me old salts like me that clung to 2nd ed until they were dragged kicking and screaming into 3.5. That looked at 4th ed and went oh hell no and embraced pathfinder because they didn't want to see D&D repackaged and reinvented every 8 to 10 years by WoTC. Every gamer with shiny syndrome out there has an evil twin that refuses to work with a system that has not yet been vetted. Don't alienate markets in a competition with an open vote. There are plenty of guys out there like me that want systems and adventures to have solid reviews and references before we shell out or vote for them.

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See the RPG Superstar FAQ.

RPG Superstar Season 9 Top 32 , Marathon Voter Season 6, Marathon Voter Season 7, Champion Voter Season 8, Marathon Voter Season 9 aka GM_Solspiral

Knew I read that somewhere... Third from the bottom in rd1 FAQ.. Thanks Sean.

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