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Permanently killing an enemy?


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All these crazy metaphysical solutions...

Keep it simple! No one will resurrect him if no one knows he's dead.

Kill him on the quiet, then replace him. Surely you know of some wicked shapeshifters who'd like the job. If not, do it yourself! Your charisma's probably pretty good; a mighty intellect headband +4 will give you your level in disguise and bluff. Have fun wrecking his support network from the inside.

Alternately, make him not want to come back. Torture him to death, then go to a lawful good temple and pay to have him raised. Then burn the temple and kill the priests in front of him, and torture him to death again. Repeat until he stops responding to resurrection spells from lawful good casters. This is an expensive option, 5,000 gp a pop, but 1) is hilarious and 2) stacks lots of negative levels on him. Plus you get to loot the temples.

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Emmit Svenson wrote:
Alternately, make him not want to come back. Torture him to death, then go to a lawful good temple and pay to have him raised. Then burn the temple and kill the priests in front of him, and torture him to death again. Repeat until he stops responding to resurrection spells from lawful good casters. This is an expensive option, 5,000 gp a pop, but 1) is hilarious and 2) stacks lots of negative levels on him. Plus you get to loot the temples.

Heh heh heh.

Pay the temple the 5000 gp in gold, have them supply the diamond. Then take the gold back when you loot the temple.

Shadow Lodge

This is actually very simple. All you need to do is utterly annihilate his soul. (Sounds hard, really isn't.)

Book of the Damned vol. 3 wrote:
Most methods of using souls consume them utterly, consigning them to oblivion. In these cases, only the direct intervention of a deity can return them to life- and sometimes not even then such as when the soul is specifically devoured by one of the Horsemen.

So step one is: Make yourself a nice soul gem the next time you kill him. A Cacodaemon is the easiest way to make that happen. And then make yourself a magic item, or offer a sacrifice to one of the horsemen. Szuriel is likely to appreciate the quality of a high-level paladin that you've been fighting for a long time. Or, for that special little touch, make him into an intelligent weapon with no power and enjoy him screaming forever as you use him to murder countless innocents.

EDIT: Or sell him to a Souldrinker. He's gotta be worth at least a thousand gold if he's high enough level to fight you. Of course, you should annihilate his soul after you're done with the cycle of resurrection, burn, slaughtering, torture, etc. that Emmit suggested. A paladin with his will broken has got to be worth more.


tonyz wrote:
Polymorph him into a goldfish. Take very good care of your new pet.

Have you ever tried keeping a Goldfish alive? lol. I would go with a turtle. Much easier and a lot longer lifespan.

Otherwise great advise. :)

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Dragonamedrake wrote:
tonyz wrote:
Polymorph him into a goldfish. Take very good care of your new pet.

Have you ever tried keeping a Goldfish alive? lol. I would go with a turtle. Much easier and a lot longer lifespan.

Otherwise great advise. :)

Yeah, my last goldfish lasted two weeks, and I wasn't a plague bringing antipaladin with an aura that sapped its vital essence. That goldfish would be rezzed pretty darn fast.


The spell Rest Eternal could help, too. This at least gives the one who wants to bring him back a chance to fail.


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The turtle's long lifespan is a bad thing. Think of it, if he dies of old age, he can't be resurrected. Goldfish is a bad choice too, they can live for up to 20 years. Turn him into a mouse or hamster, they live for 3 years or so. Now you only have to care for him for a maximum of little over 3 years, and then he's un-rezzable.


Baleful Poylmorph him into a Mayfly he dies of old age in one day (or starvation depending on how you want to look at it).


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Wind Chime wrote:
Baleful Poylmorph him into a Mayfly he dies of old age in one day (or starvation depending on how you want to look at it).

It specifically has to be old age, so the mayfly dying of starvation doesn't prevent resurrection.

Mice are still the best I can think of, with a lifespan in protected environments of 2-3 years and an absolute record of almost 5 years (1819 days), and this was a genetically engineered mouse.
You also really want to make sure that nothing other than old age kills him, and insects are terribly difficult to keep track of.

EDIT: It was just pointed out to me that Reincarnate can resurrect creatures who have died of old age, so I think we're back to the turtle suggestion :)


johnlocke90 wrote:

Any other ideas?

Somebody has to know that he is dead to revive him. If people think he is still alive, no one will resurect him.


Slay him with your preferred method (I always liked Destruction), then use a Wish, maybe?

Lantern Lodge

Imprison the target in a soul gem and encase the soul gem in a sphere of adamantine and toss said sphere in2 the middle of the ocean. Lets see some1 try to rez something guarded by the pressure of the ocean's depth.


Death by old age actually works. Here is why:

Yes, Reincarnate can bring someone back from old age but there must be a peice of the body and the person cannot have died any more than 1 week prior.

Step 1: Age the target until he is dead.
Step 2: Destroy the corpse. Keep remains for a week.
Step 3: Party

End Result: Corpse cannot be reincarnated after a week. Corpse cannot be True Resurrected due to old age.

If magical old age is ruled to not count, take him to a fast time plane where 1 round equals 1 day (GMG p185). Use any of the previously discussed means to keep him unconscious and yet alive while he is there.

I suggest you do not go there yourself unless you are immune to old age. Use Undead minions instead.

After 3days approximately 118 years will have passed for him. If human he should be dead now. Meanwhile keep his allies busy.

- Gauss

Dark Archive

As mentioned in an earlier similar thread
Stabilize them on negative HP (not dead) or make them undead.
Turn them to stone.
Stick them in a bag of holding.
Stab the bag of holding.

PFSRD: If a bag of holding is overloaded, or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag immediately ruptures and is ruined, and all contents are lost forever.

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