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Rawr! possibly delayed - violated Pathfinder compatibility over graphic content!


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Shadow Lodge

Yes, it's true. I was contacted last night about some Pathfinder compatibility license issues. It turns out that one of the monsters in our soon-to-be-released product 'Rawr!', the Sundered Child, was too graphic in description.

To be fair, Paizo was absolutely right, and we went back and made changes to the content. Don't mistake this thread for bashing them, instead think how killer our creation was to get flagged... :D

The Sundered Child is now the Sundered One, but the original creation may make its appearance on our Facebook page.

Our new series - Rawr! goes on sale here today (although it might be slightly delayed here due to the changes).

The Sundered One will also make an appearance in our upcoming adventure, 'The Reaping Stone.' Again, our apologies for the delay to our fans, we continue to push the boundaries of fantasy-horror, although we definitely want to ensure that our products remain suitable for the Pathfinder RPG.

Check it out and let us know what you think!

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TPK Games wrote:
It turns out that one of the monsters in our soon-to-be-released product 'Rawr!', the Sundered Child, was too graphic in description.

As the designer of the Sundered Child and the doting father of a beautiful one-year-old daughter, I want to make sure that everyone knows that I do indeed love children! ;-)

Good call, Paizo, for flagging the content. After a second look, it's obvious to me now that my creepy little undead construct crossed the graphic content/violence-to-children line. It's a good lesson for me and future designers. I love Paizo and want to make sure my creations are suitable for Pathfinder.

FYI, I'm also the author of the Reaping Stone adventure Brian mentioned. Stay tuned for more on that nasty piece of work!


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Aw man, now I want to see this illustration more than ever!

...yeah, something's really wrong with me.


As far as im concerned, its a game. People that play it know this so it shouldnt matter. Violence against children? Tell that to White Wolf about their Innocents book. I understand its two different companies but if that book can come out a child monster shoild be able to as well. The attic whisperer is similar in this aspect and thats a Paizo monster from B2. So idk why it was flagged. Id like to see the original as well to understand why it would have been flagged by Paizo.

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Fnipernackle wrote:
The attic whisperer is similar in this aspect and thats a Paizo monster from B2. So idk why it was flagged. Id like to see the original as well to understand why it would have been flagged by Paizo.

Trust me, Fnipernackle, Paizo was right to flag the Sundered Child. It was much more graphic and disturbing than the Attic Whisperer. Paizo was careful to explain that an Attic Whisperer is created from a neglected/forgotten child, whereas a Sundered Child requires ... well, a more violent creation method.

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The attic whisperer was disturbing to me, not bad wrong, just not quite what I want to see in a game. While I know that many wouldn't think twice about the sundered child I can say that anything more "graphic" than the attic whisperer would turn me away.

So I think Tom & Paizo are right to restrict themselves in a few areas.

Grand Lodge

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Fnipernackle wrote:
As far as im concerned, its a game. People that play it know this so it shouldnt matter. Violence against children? Tell that to White Wolf about their Innocents book. I understand its two different companies but if that book can come out a child monster shoild be able to as well. The attic whisperer is similar in this aspect and thats a Paizo monster from B2. So idk why it was flagged. Id like to see the original as well to understand why it would have been flagged by Paizo.

White Wolf had content that was clearly intended for Mature Audiences only. They even had a label called Black Dog which was pretty much the NC-17 of the RPG world.

Shadow Lodge

LazarX wrote:
White Wolf had content that was clearly intended for Mature Audiences only. They even had a label called Black Dog which was pretty much the NC-17 of the RPG world.

Truth. The difference is that it was labeled a Mature Audience game, whereas Pathfinder is for all audiences. Our creation was over the top for Pathfinder's standards (rightfully so), and we gladly changed it.

Now someday we might do a MA product, without the Pathfinder compatability logo. By "someday we might" I mean it's on the drawing board. We'll just have to ensure there's a market for it first.


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Necroblivion wrote:

Truth. The difference is that it was labeled a Mature Audience game, whereas Pathfinder is for all audiences. Our creation was over the top for Pathfinder's standards (rightfully so), and we gladly changed it.

Now someday we might do a MA product, without the Pathfinder compatability logo. By "someday we might" I mean it's on the drawing board. We'll just have to ensure there's a market for it first.

Having worked on a MA product that didn't use the Compatibility Logo myself, I'd definitely like to take a look at such a book.

Shadow Lodge

No delay at all, this is l-i-v-e!

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