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temporary charisma bonus and lay on hands


Rules Questions


is there a specific rule on temporary bonuses somewhere? mainly i am wondering if casting eagle's splendor would increase the amount of lay on hands a paladin would get each day. it specifically says no to getting extra spells, but nothing about special abilities.


No, temporary bonuses never increase your daily abilities. Below are three sections relevant to charisma increases. They are all on page 554 and 555 of the CRB.

CRB p554 wrote:
Ability score increases with a duration of 1 day or less give only temporary bonuses. For every two points of increase to a single ability, apply a +1 bonus to the skills and statistics listed with the relevant ability.

And for Charisma:

CRB p555 wrote:
Charisma: Temporary increases to your Charisma score give you a bonus on Charisma-based skill checks. This bonus also applies to any spell DCs based on Charisma and the DC to resist your channeled energy.

Contrast with permanent:

CRB p555 wrote:
Permanent Bonuses: Ability bonuses with a duration greater than 1 day actually increase the relevant ability score after 24 hours. Modify all skills and statistics related to that ability. This might cause you to gain skill points, hit points, and other bonuses. These bonuses should be noted separately in case they are removed.

- Gauss


darn. i am looking for a way to get my 5 cha stonelord paladin an emergency lay on hands if he needed to. :)

thanks gauss


asthyril wrote:

darn. i am looking for a way to get my 5 cha stonelord paladin an emergency lay on hands if he needed to. :)

thanks gauss

The first level spell Hero's defiance will give you one:

The instant before you are reduced to 0 or fewer hit points, you can expend a use of your lay on hands ability to heal yourself as if you had used lay on hands, plus an additional 1d6 hit points.

If this healing brings your hit point total above 0 hit points, you do not fall, and may continue to act. If you have no more uses of lay on hands this spell has no effect.


stonelords do not get spells


asthyril wrote:

darn. i am looking for a way to get my 5 cha stonelord paladin an emergency lay on hands if he needed to. :)

thanks gauss

Extra Lay On Hands feat if you really need it. Or getting permanent bonus to Charisma.

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