Jiggy
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You mean that weird one earlier with the axe musket? No thanks. I'll stick with a regular musket.
Mergy
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Insults to the weapon aside, it's an efficient switch-hitter. A regular musket adds a few points of damage at range, but you can't chop off heads with it.
ossian666
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Thats the thing though...switch hitter IMO can work but its going to be that type of build. Even my Gun Tank build took 3 or 4 levels in fighter or barbarian to work.
andersen
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yeah, no need to be a switch hitter. and it isnt really one trick pony, there is a lot of tactical decisions to make, to position yourself well and move as little as possible, all pretty close to melee. I looked into zen archer, but in the end it seemed pretty boring, just sit in the back and unload. gunslingers are a bit more on their toes, which is fun.
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ossian666
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Eh...as a Pistolero maybe, but as a MM I always put the Distance enhancement on the gun and sit back at like 80 ft and go buckwild on touch AC. Then again even if you are wading into melee with your high Dex and the Nimble ability you get from being Gunslinger its not like you can get touched anyways.
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Jiggy
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For the sake of broader possibilities, what are some melee-oriented DPR options, that don't involve Dervish Dance or 2HPA?
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ossian666
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I guess in theory you could go Kukri crit 2WF either the Fighter archtype or I guess Rogue/Ninja. The rogue or ninja way is kind of sneak attack dependant, but it would be doable.
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Jiggy
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A thought that crossed my mind was to make a clawed tiefling ninja, take Fiend Sight twice (gets me the See In Darkness ability), and carry a couple of oils of deeper darkness. Most of the time I'd seem like a pretty run-of-the-mill ninja... until the party gets in a bind and I turn the lights out, then run around ripping out bad guys' throats in the dark while my party members shiver in the dark as they hear whooshing sounds, the tearing of flesh, and the screams of their enemies.
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For the sake of broader possibilities, what are some melee-oriented DPR options, that don't involve Dervish Dance or 2HPA?
Well there is sneak attack characters, Pouncing multiple attacks barbarians, Lance paladins, Dragon style monks, and a few others I can't think of atm.
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Jiggy
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Another idea would be a Martial Artist monk (no alignment restriction, can take fighter feats) with a one-level dip into Urban Barbarian for DEX Rage, and use an agile amulet of mighty fists. By 5th level, I'd be flurrying for +10/+10 for 1d8+8 (or +9 if I had a DEX belt) each. That sounds fun!