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How long is a Pole Arms pole?


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Shadow Lodge

I am looking at picking up a banner of ancient kings which says it must be mounted on a spears or pole at least 8 feet long. I am looking for better reach weapons that a long spear but there isn't any lengths on most of them. Any ideas on how I could do it? this is for PFS so I have to be able to do it raw.


Any polearm with reach is at least 8 feet long.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

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Why not just mount it on a 10ft pole?

Shadow Lodge

@mplindustries
Is there anywhere in the rules that says that? My PFS GM says they aren't that long.

@jiggy
Because the guy I want it for is an front lines fighter/buffer. So I would like to be able to fight while using the banner.

Shadow Lodge

Show him a bunch of photographs of the pole arms you want to use. All of the reach weapons are incredibly long.

Grand Lodge RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32

...Strap it to your back? Have it sticking out of your backpack, or wherever it is all these paranoid 1E guys normally carry the pole?

Shadow Lodge

lol that's awesome Jiggy. Unfortunately the item says it must be "firmly wielded in two hands". Which means if I want to attack at all it must be a reach weapon


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10' pole and Catch-Off Guard?

Grand Lodge

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Seriphim84 wrote:

@mplindustries

Is there anywhere in the rules that says that? My PFS GM says they aren't that long.

It can reach the middle of a square between 5 and 10 feet away, plus six inches to pierce the vital organs of the guy standing there. That would be 8 feet exactly.

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Cheapy wrote:
10' pole and Catch-Off Guard?

Reminds me of my college days, watching a Halo player kill someone with a flag.


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Presumably in game.

Silver Crusade

From the Core Rulebook equipment descriptions:

Quote:


Guisarme: A guisarme is an 8-foot-long shaft with a blade and a hook mounted at the tip.
Quote:


Longspear: A longspear is about 8 feet in length.

Other reach weapons would have to be about the same length. As a PFS GM, I'd allow it on any reach weapon.

Cheliax

Starglim wrote:
Seriphim84 wrote:

@mplindustries

Is there anywhere in the rules that says that? My PFS GM says they aren't that long.
It can reach the middle of a square between 5 and 10 feet away, plus six inches to pierce the vital organs of the guy standing there. That would be 8 feet exactly.

The exception to that is the Glaive which states that it is only 7 feet in the PRD.

Please also note, everyone is not standing in the middle of their squares the whole combat. Otherwise your average longsword @ 3.5 feet would not reach from the middle of one square to the middle of the next over (not even counting daggers).

For the most part though, I see no reason to not allow it to be attached to almost any reach weapon (whip would not work), as most are close enough to the 8' requirement that it either matches, or could be claimed to have been made for the character with out breaking the rules of the weapon. After all, not all longswords are the exact same length.

My only concern is how easy it is to wield a weapon with a 4'x6', 5 lb piece of canvas attached to it. This seems to be that it would get in the way a lot and cause more problems in combat than not.

Just for reference, these people are holding up a 4' x 6' banner:

http://www.esigns.com/vinyl-banners/4x6/


Happler wrote:
Please also note, everyone is not standing in the middle of their squares the whole combat. Otherwise your average longsword @ 3.5 feet would not reach from the middle of one square to the middle of the next over (not even counting daggers).

You're forgetting the length of the character's arms.

But that's besides the point--the 8 feet thing should just be for flavor. Any polearm should do.

Cheliax

mplindustries wrote:
Happler wrote:
Please also note, everyone is not standing in the middle of their squares the whole combat. Otherwise your average longsword @ 3.5 feet would not reach from the middle of one square to the middle of the next over (not even counting daggers).

You're forgetting the length of the character's arms.

But that's besides the point--the 8 feet thing should just be for flavor. Any polearm should do.

I agree, I just don't like it when people base weapon length off of an imaginary grid size.. :)

As I said, I would be more concerned about trying to fight with it attached to the weapon. (something the magic item never takes into account since it appears to assume that it is being held as a banner and not wielded as a weapon).

Shadow Lodge

thanks guys :) I think that covers my questions.

Andoran

Jiggy wrote:
Why not just mount it on a 10ft pole?

As soon as I read the OP I just wanted to yell, "ALL POLES ARE 10' LONG!"

Silver Crusade

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Jiggy wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
10' pole and Catch-Off Guard?
Reminds me of my college days, watching a Halo player kill someone with a flag.

I got to do this in a L5R campaign once. :)

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