paizo.com Recent Posts in Disney wants Hasbropaizo.com Recent Posts in Disney wants Hasbro2012-11-09T17:52:44Z2012-11-09T17:52:44ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroDeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#1002012-11-10T12:32:10Z2012-11-10T12:32:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">jemstone wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.</p>
<p>Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment. </blockquote><p>That's what window boxes are for, mate.
<p>(Also can I just say that I love the Paizo boards? No matter how badly we all may disagree on a topic, we are always willing to put the arguments aside and gab on about food at the drop of a hat. I love you guys.) </blockquote><p>I live on the ground floor in an area they would probably be vandallised, plus my time is far more limited these days.
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</blockquote><p>In fairness to Zombieneighbors, it also takes a hell of a long time to shell peas.Zombieneighbours wrote:jemstone wrote: Zombieneighbours wrote:Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.
Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment.
That's what window boxes are for, mate. (Also can I just say that I love the Paizo boards? No matter how badly we all may disagree on a topic, we are always willing to put the arguments aside and gab on about food at the drop of a hat. I love you guys.) I live on the ground...DeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)2012-11-10T12:32:10ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroFuelDrophttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#992012-11-10T11:41:59Z2012-11-10T11:41:59Z<p>If I may briefly bring the discussion back to ratings...
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From what I'm reading the flaw may be with the US rating system, as from what I can see there's no middle ground between PG and R.</p>
<p>Australia has G, for "General Exhibition", PG "Not Recommended for Children", M, for "Mature Audiences" or 15+, MA for between M and R, and finally R for 18+ films. Many films that I've seen referenced as PG or R fall into the M rating in Australia.</p>
<p>Of course, we've only just managed to pound into the politicians the idea that maybe an R rating for video games is a good idea. About darned time if you ask me.</p>If I may briefly bring the discussion back to ratings...
From what I'm reading the flaw may be with the US rating system, as from what I can see there's no middle ground between PG and R.
Australia has G, for "General Exhibition", PG "Not Recommended for Children", M, for "Mature Audiences" or 15+, MA for between M and R, and finally R for 18+ films. Many films that I've seen referenced as PG or R fall into the M rating in Australia.
Of course, we've only just managed to pound into the...FuelDrop2012-11-10T11:41:59ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#982012-11-10T10:31:37Z2012-11-10T10:31:37Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">jemstone wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.</p>
<p>Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment. </blockquote><p>That's what window boxes are for, mate.
<p>(Also can I just say that I love the Paizo boards? No matter how badly we all may disagree on a topic, we are always willing to put the arguments aside and gab on about food at the drop of a hat. I love you guys.) </blockquote><p>I live on the ground floor in an area they would probably be vandallised, plus my time is far more limited these days.jemstone wrote:Zombieneighbours wrote:Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.
Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment.
That's what window boxes are for, mate. (Also can I just say that I love the Paizo boards? No matter how badly we all may disagree on a topic, we are always willing to put the arguments aside and gab on about food at the drop of a hat. I love you guys.) I live on the ground floor in an area they would...Zombieneighbours2012-11-10T10:31:37ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroRoss Byers (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#972012-11-10T20:31:45Z2012-11-10T00:52:05Z<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>I removed a couples posts. Do not use the word 'retarded' ion that way.</span></p>I removed a couples posts. Do not use the word 'retarded' ion that way.Ross Byers (RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32)2012-11-10T00:52:05ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants Hasbrojemstonehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#962012-11-09T22:46:48Z2012-11-09T22:30:29Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.</p>
<p>Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment. </blockquote><p>That's what window boxes are for, mate.
<p>(Also can I just say that I love the Paizo boards? No matter how badly we all may disagree on a topic, we are always willing to put the arguments aside and gab on about food at the drop of a hat. I love you guys.)</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.
Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment.
That's what window boxes are for, mate. (Also can I just say that I love the Paizo boards? No matter how badly we all may disagree on a topic, we are always willing to put the arguments aside and gab on about food at the drop of a hat. I love you guys.)jemstone2012-11-09T22:30:29ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#952012-11-09T21:52:26Z2012-11-09T21:52:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">GeraintElberion wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Good Cumberland(would have prefered lincolnshire but gf got the meat) made with outdoor reared pork. </p>
<p>Fresh made mash, with black pepper, whole grain mustard, horseradish, butter, and full fat milk.</p>
<p>Petit pois </p>
<p>and gravy.</p>
<p>It is going to be epic!!!!! </blockquote><p>Petit Pois? You big girl's blouse!
<p>Marrowfat processed peas or it's only a pale simalcrum of bangers and mash.</p>
<p>Also, playing with your mash makes you go blind and grow hairs on the back of your hands: potatoes, milk and butter are the only acceptable ingredients.</p>
<p>:b </blockquote><p>Marrowfat processed peas? By gum, it's grimm up north.
<p>Home grown garden peas, freshly picked is the way it should be done, but I don't have an allotment.</p>GeraintElberion wrote:Zombieneighbours wrote:Good Cumberland(would have prefered lincolnshire but gf got the meat) made with outdoor reared pork.
Fresh made mash, with black pepper, whole grain mustard, horseradish, butter, and full fat milk.
Petit pois
and gravy.
It is going to be epic!!!!!
Petit Pois? You big girl's blouse! Marrowfat processed peas or it's only a pale simalcrum of bangers and mash.
Also, playing with your mash makes you go blind and grow hairs on the back of your...Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T21:52:26ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroGeraintElberionhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#942012-11-09T20:47:26Z2012-11-09T20:47:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Good Cumberland(would have prefered lincolnshire but gf got the meat) made with outdoor reared pork. </p>
<p>Fresh made mash, with black pepper, whole grain mustard, horseradish, butter, and full fat milk.</p>
<p>Petit pois </p>
<p>and gravy.</p>
<p>It is going to be epic!!!!! </blockquote><p>Petit Pois? You big girl's blouse!
<p>Marrowfat processed peas or it's only a pale simalcrum of bangers and mash.</p>
<p>Also, playing with your mash makes you go blind and grow hairs on the back of your hands: potatoes, milk and butter are the only acceptable ingredients.</p>
<p>:b</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:Good Cumberland(would have prefered lincolnshire but gf got the meat) made with outdoor reared pork.
Fresh made mash, with black pepper, whole grain mustard, horseradish, butter, and full fat milk.
Petit pois
and gravy.
It is going to be epic!!!!!
Petit Pois? You big girl's blouse! Marrowfat processed peas or it's only a pale simalcrum of bangers and mash.
Also, playing with your mash makes you go blind and grow hairs on the back of your hands: potatoes, milk and...GeraintElberion2012-11-09T20:47:26ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#932012-11-09T19:06:48Z2012-11-09T19:06:48Z<p>Picture to come ;)</p>Picture to come ;)Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T19:06:48ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroDigitalelfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#922012-11-09T19:01:28Z2012-11-09T19:01:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>It is going to be epic!!!!! </blockquote><p>Sounds like!
<p>I imagine it will be leaps and bounds better than any of the so-called "Bangers & Mash" this American has eaten...</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:It is going to be epic!!!!!
Sounds like! I imagine it will be leaps and bounds better than any of the so-called "Bangers & Mash" this American has eaten...Digitalelf2012-11-09T19:01:28ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#912012-11-09T18:45:43Z2012-11-09T18:45:43Z<p>Good Cumberland(would have prefered lincolnshire but gf got the meat) made with outdoor reared pork. </p>
<p>Fresh made mash, with black pepper, whole grain mustard, horseradish, butter, and full fat milk.</p>
<p>Petit pois </p>
<p>and gravy.</p>
<p>It is going to be epic!!!!!</p>Good Cumberland(would have prefered lincolnshire but gf got the meat) made with outdoor reared pork.
Fresh made mash, with black pepper, whole grain mustard, horseradish, butter, and full fat milk.
Petit pois
and gravy.
It is going to be epic!!!!!Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T18:45:43ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroDigitalelfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#902012-11-09T18:11:52Z2012-11-09T18:11:52Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>Then again I was being dragged out the door to purchase the makings for bangers and mash</blockquote><p>Mmmm... Bangers & Mash...
<p>Such a simple meal, yet so good! :-)</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:Then again I was being dragged out the door to purchase the makings for bangers and mash
Mmmm... Bangers & Mash... Such a simple meal, yet so good! :-)Digitalelf2012-11-09T18:11:52ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#892012-11-09T19:15:02Z2012-11-09T18:02:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Alitan wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Alitan wrote:</div><blockquote><p> In case anyone was missing it:</p>
<p>Disney=Evil+Bad Productions.</p>
<p>[There are 9 Muses, not 5. Heracles was the bastard offspring of an extramarital affair, and Hera SENT the serpents to slay him in his crib. The Little Mermaid turns into sea-foam at the end of the story, because she cannot bear to use the cure for her legs: murdering her prince. Etc., ad infin. Disney couldn't make a proper movie about ANYTHING that actually existed before they pissed in it.] </blockquote><p>Not really true. Disney has been making some really pretty great film in recent years. I mean, just look at the avengers...
<p>As for your complaint about 'meddling in stories.', think your miss understanding their reasons for doing so. They ain't 'meddling for meddling sake', nor is is wholly about making 'wholesome family entertainment'. The big picture is related to IP. If today, you where to make a animated film of the classic fairy tale, the princess and the pea, and it where a success, it would be very easy for others to ride the films coat tales(and their by dilute your own financial success) When disney makes these changes, such as having robin hood be a fox, it becomes much harder for people to produce tie in merch without succumbing to your "army of enforcers." </p>
<p>Their is a reason they put "Disney's" in front of the name of the material they draw from the public domain. </blockquote><p>No, I haven't looked at the Avengers, because I've already given up on anybody making a decent comic book movie. Hollywood, Disney, et. al., have already demonstrated to my complete disgust and dissatisfaction, that they are incapable of the task.
<p>As for fairy tale adaptations, I don't care WHAT their motivation is: if they can't (won't) get it right, they shouldn't be making the attempt. </blockquote><p>Fiddler's Green retelling of little red riding hood.Alitan wrote:Zombieneighbours wrote: Alitan wrote:In case anyone was missing it:
Disney=Evil+Bad Productions.
[There are 9 Muses, not 5. Heracles was the bastard offspring of an extramarital affair, and Hera SENT the serpents to slay him in his crib. The Little Mermaid turns into sea-foam at the end of the story, because she cannot bear to use the cure for her legs: murdering her prince. Etc., ad infin. Disney couldn't make a proper movie about ANYTHING that actually existed before they...Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T18:02:25ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#882012-11-09T17:56:54Z2012-11-09T17:56:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Icyshadow wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Orthos wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Icyshadow wrote:</div><blockquote>I assume he'll reply just to call you a prude or something.</blockquote><p>It's not inaccurate.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>The only thing wrong with the attitude is that you are closing your self of from some really great media. Your choice I guess, but I'd hate to not have seen the wire on such grounds. </blockquote><p>The problem is I simply can't stomach that kind of thing. I go to movies (most of the time) for the stories, and that distracts me so completely from it that I lose all ability to follow along. Gore makes me sick, nudity makes me extremely uncomfortable, and excessive swearing makes me irritated at best. If the story had been told WITHOUT those elements, I'd be able to enjoy it, provided of course it was a good story.
<p>With the increasing mindset of "Anything with a low rating can't have a good story or must be dumbed down for kids" (nevermind the separate rants that kids don't need things dumbed down for them) it's getting increasingly difficult to find good movies that won't disgust or bother me too much to follow the story. The singular exception to this seems to be companies who focus all or most of their product on G and PG movies - Disney, Pixar, etc., who fairly regularly provide good stories (if a bit mangled from their original sources, yes) without excess sex, vulgarity, and gore. </blockquote><p>I have never argued that a story can only be good if it is "r"rated. I mean I posted earlier about how awesome Hayao Miyazaki is. But just as kiki's delivery service wouldn't work with face eating, the wire wouldn't work without sex, drugs, and violence.
<p>Both are great. </p>
<p><b>Both would suffer if you tried to make them into something else.</b> </blockquote><p>If that were true, then story-telling as an art would stagnate and rot for all eternity.
<p>Anything can be given a new twist to it. The thing that matters is if you can do it skillfully or not. </blockquote><p>Yay...thanks for missing the point by a mile. Then again I was being dragged out the door to purchase the makings for bangers and mash, so I'll blame it on an incomplete explanation, rather than anything else.
<p>Both examples are master pieces.</p>
<p>Forgive me for thinking that, given the specificity of the discussion regarding age ratings and that I said </p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>Both would suffer if you tried to make them into something else.</blockquote><p>But having been the one who posted this earlier
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">John Woodford wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">princeimrahil wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Imagine a world... where Disney owns all of the old IP.</p>
<p>Imagine a world... where people have to suddenly come up with NEW ideas for movies, books, and television. </blockquote>Now imagine a world...where Disney's lawyers scrutinize everything new that comes out to make sure it doesn't infringe on their IP, and sue the creator's pants off if the new work looks even slightly derivative. </blockquote><p>And in that same world, the rules that govern human creativity work like this..
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/14912890" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">1</a>.
<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/19447662" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">2</a>.
<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/25380454" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">3</a>.
<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/36881035" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">4</a>. </blockquote><p>it would be obvious I was not talking in the general sense about remixing stories.
<p>So let me re-state my position. </p>
<p>It is the very adult nature of subject, coupled with the way in which that subject is depicted in realistic and complex manner that is at the core of the wire, and a very important part of its attraction as a piece of media. Removals of those elements from the wire would remove its soul, and destroy a great masterpiece. That is not to say it could not be woven into a different story, but that it would be loss to human culture if some one had not made the wire as it is because, its a bit dark. Some stories need to be told with those elements and not including them make it a worse story. Not all stories need such elements. Some are in fact worsened by their inclusion for no reason, but the wire wouldn't be the wire without it.</p>Icyshadow wrote:Zombieneighbours wrote: Orthos wrote: Icyshadow wrote:I assume he'll reply just to call you a prude or something.
It's not inaccurate. Zombieneighbours wrote:The only thing wrong with the attitude is that you are closing your self of from some really great media. Your choice I guess, but I'd hate to not have seen the wire on such grounds.
The problem is I simply can't stomach that kind of thing. I go to movies (most of the time) for the stories, and that distracts me so...Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T17:56:54ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#872012-11-09T17:36:47Z2012-11-09T17:36:47Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">DeathQuaker wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> my theory with regards to the whole pirates franchise basically boils down to this.</p>
<p>When you encounter some one who loves them, ask them to mentally have some one else play the part of either Jack Sparrow or Hector Barbossa.</p>
<p>Now ask them if they love the films. </blockquote>I definitely do, given I enjoyed them most for the hottest and manliest actor in the franchise, Keira Knightly. </blockquote><p>It is true that few films suffer from having Keira Knightly in a corset.DeathQuaker wrote:Zombieneighbours wrote:my theory with regards to the whole pirates franchise basically boils down to this.
When you encounter some one who loves them, ask them to mentally have some one else play the part of either Jack Sparrow or Hector Barbossa.
Now ask them if they love the films.
I definitely do, given I enjoyed them most for the hottest and manliest actor in the franchise, Keira Knightly. It is true that few films suffer from having Keira Knightly in a corset.Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T17:36:47ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroDeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#862012-11-10T10:34:56Z2012-11-09T17:29:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote><p> my theory with regards to the whole pirates franchise basically boils down to this.</p>
<p>When you encounter some one who loves them, ask them to mentally have some one else play the part of either Jack Sparrow or Hector Barbossa.</p>
<p>Now ask them if they love the films. </blockquote><p>I definitely do, given I enjoyed them most for the hottest and manliest actor in the franchise, Keira Knightly.Zombieneighbours wrote:my theory with regards to the whole pirates franchise basically boils down to this.
When you encounter some one who loves them, ask them to mentally have some one else play the part of either Jack Sparrow or Hector Barbossa.
Now ask them if they love the films.
I definitely do, given I enjoyed them most for the hottest and manliest actor in the franchise, Keira Knightly.DeathQuaker (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 8)2012-11-09T17:29:26ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroAlitanhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#852012-11-09T17:11:55Z2012-11-09T17:11:55Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Alitan wrote:</div><blockquote><p> In case anyone was missing it:</p>
<p>Disney=Evil+Bad Productions.</p>
<p>[There are 9 Muses, not 5. Heracles was the bastard offspring of an extramarital affair, and Hera SENT the serpents to slay him in his crib. The Little Mermaid turns into sea-foam at the end of the story, because she cannot bear to use the cure for her legs: murdering her prince. Etc., ad infin. Disney couldn't make a proper movie about ANYTHING that actually existed before they pissed in it.] </blockquote><p>Not really true. Disney has been making some really pretty great film in recent years. I mean, just look at the avengers...
<p>As for your complaint about 'meddling in stories.', think your miss understanding their reasons for doing so. They ain't 'meddling for meddling sake', nor is is wholly about making 'wholesome family entertainment'. The big picture is related to IP. If today, you where to make a animated film of the classic fairy tale, the princess and the pea, and it where a success, it would be very easy for others to ride the films coat tales(and their by dilute your own financial success) When disney makes these changes, such as having robin hood be a fox, it becomes much harder for people to produce tie in merch without succumbing to your "army of enforcers." </p>
<p>Their is a reason they put "Disney's" in front of the name of the material they draw from the public domain. </blockquote><p>No, I haven't looked at the Avengers, because I've already given up on anybody making a decent comic book movie. Hollywood, Disney, et. al., have already demonstrated to my complete disgust and dissatisfaction, that they are incapable of the task.
<p>As for fairy tale adaptations, I don't care WHAT their motivation is: if they can't (won't) get it right, they shouldn't be making the attempt.</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:Alitan wrote:In case anyone was missing it:
Disney=Evil+Bad Productions.
[There are 9 Muses, not 5. Heracles was the bastard offspring of an extramarital affair, and Hera SENT the serpents to slay him in his crib. The Little Mermaid turns into sea-foam at the end of the story, because she cannot bear to use the cure for her legs: murdering her prince. Etc., ad infin. Disney couldn't make a proper movie about ANYTHING that actually existed before they pissed in it.]
...Alitan2012-11-09T17:11:55ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroIcyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#842012-11-09T16:46:20Z2012-11-09T16:46:20Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Orthos wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Icyshadow wrote:</div><blockquote>I assume he'll reply just to call you a prude or something.</blockquote><p>It's not inaccurate.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>The only thing wrong with the attitude is that you are closing your self of from some really great media. Your choice I guess, but I'd hate to not have seen the wire on such grounds. </blockquote><p>The problem is I simply can't stomach that kind of thing. I go to movies (most of the time) for the stories, and that distracts me so completely from it that I lose all ability to follow along. Gore makes me sick, nudity makes me extremely uncomfortable, and excessive swearing makes me irritated at best. If the story had been told WITHOUT those elements, I'd be able to enjoy it, provided of course it was a good story.
<p>With the increasing mindset of "Anything with a low rating can't have a good story or must be dumbed down for kids" (nevermind the separate rants that kids don't need things dumbed down for them) it's getting increasingly difficult to find good movies that won't disgust or bother me too much to follow the story. The singular exception to this seems to be companies who focus all or most of their product on G and PG movies - Disney, Pixar, etc., who fairly regularly provide good stories (if a bit mangled from their original sources, yes) without excess sex, vulgarity, and gore. </blockquote><p>I have never argued that a story can only be good if it is "r"rated. I mean I posted earlier about how awesome Hayao Miyazaki is. But just as kiki's delivery service wouldn't work with face eating, the wire wouldn't work without sex, drugs, and violence.
<p>Both are great. </p>
<p><b>Both would suffer if you tried to make them into something else.</b> </blockquote><p>If that were true, then story-telling as an art would stagnate and rot for all eternity.
<p>Anything can be given a new twist to it. The thing that matters is if you can do it skillfully or not.</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:Orthos wrote: Icyshadow wrote:I assume he'll reply just to call you a prude or something.
It's not inaccurate. Zombieneighbours wrote:The only thing wrong with the attitude is that you are closing your self of from some really great media. Your choice I guess, but I'd hate to not have seen the wire on such grounds.
The problem is I simply can't stomach that kind of thing. I go to movies (most of the time) for the stories, and that distracts me so completely from it...Icyshadow2012-11-09T16:46:20ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroOrthoshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#832012-11-09T16:40:48Z2012-11-09T16:40:48Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>I have never argued that a story can only be good if it is "r"rated.</blockquote><p>Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you had. Several people have, not so much here but it's a pretty common thing I hear offline.
<p>One of these days I'll get to wording things better.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Darkorin wrote:</div><blockquote><p>Well that sure seems like you're not asexual at all. Being asexual would mean that you would just not care about those moment, because you don't understand or you're not interested by them.</p>
<p>Being Extremely uncomfortable means you have some kind of shame or something about it</blockquote><p>As ZN said, that's not what asexual means, in the terms of orientation. It just means I have no interest in sex, which is accurate. Doesn't stop me from being squicked out about it, or not wanting to be exposed to it.
<p>Isn't directly connected to it, either. There's plenty of people - many of whom I know, mostly due to being raised alongside them or by them, or living in close proximity for them for several years - who have similar responses to sexual situations in public, in movies or other media, etc. but are married and have children without aid of adoption or other nonsexual means.</p>
<p>Just was saying that my aversion to it is in part based on the fact that I have no interest in it whatsoever, in addition to being raised in a manner that fostered what I readily admit is a prudent outlook on the subject.</p>
<p>... and I'm finding it incredibly bizarre that I of all people am having this discussion.</p>Zombieneighbours wrote:I have never argued that a story can only be good if it is "r"rated.
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you had. Several people have, not so much here but it's a pretty common thing I hear offline. One of these days I'll get to wording things better.
Darkorin wrote:Well that sure seems like you're not asexual at all. Being asexual would mean that you would just not care about those moment, because you don't understand or you're not interested by them.
Being Extremely...Orthos2012-11-09T16:40:48ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#822012-11-09T16:26:12Z2012-11-09T16:26:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Orthos wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Icyshadow wrote:</div><blockquote>I assume he'll reply just to call you a prude or something.</blockquote><p>It's not inaccurate.
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zombieneighbours wrote:</div><blockquote>The only thing wrong with the attitude is that you are closing your self of from some really great media. Your choice I guess, but I'd hate to not have seen the wire on such grounds. </blockquote><p>The problem is I simply can't stomach that kind of thing. I go to movies (most of the time) for the stories, and that distracts me so completely from it that I lose all ability to follow along. Gore makes me sick, nudity makes me extremely uncomfortable, and excessive swearing makes me irritated at best. If the story had been told WITHOUT those elements, I'd be able to enjoy it, provided of course it was a good story.
<p>With the increasing mindset of "Anything with a low rating can't have a good story or must be dumbed down for kids" (nevermind the separate rants that kids don't need things dumbed down for them) it's getting increasingly difficult to find good movies that won't disgust or bother me too much to follow the story. The singular exception to this seems to be companies who focus all or most of their product on G and PG movies - Disney, Pixar, etc., who fairly regularly provide good stories (if a bit mangled from their original sources, yes) without excess sex, vulgarity, and gore. </blockquote><p>I have never argued that a story can only be good if it is "r"rated. I mean I posted earlier about how awesome Hayao Miyazaki is. But just as kiki's delivery service wouldn't work with face eating, the wire wouldn't work without sex, drugs, and violence.
<p>both are great. </p>
<p>both would suffer if you tried to make them into something else.</p>Orthos wrote:Icyshadow wrote:I assume he'll reply just to call you a prude or something.
It's not inaccurate. Zombieneighbours wrote:The only thing wrong with the attitude is that you are closing your self of from some really great media. Your choice I guess, but I'd hate to not have seen the wire on such grounds.
The problem is I simply can't stomach that kind of thing. I go to movies (most of the time) for the stories, and that distracts me so completely from it that I lose all ability to...Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T16:26:12ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroZombieneighbourshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#812012-11-09T19:13:12Z2012-11-09T16:15:06Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Darkorin wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Orthos wrote:</div><blockquote> Anything sex-related is a major WTFNOTHX for me. I blame part of it on my being raised that way and part on being asexual. It's just extremely uncomfortable to have to see, especially when it's just tacked onto the story for fanservice ("okay yes they're in love/lust and sleep together, why can't they just fade to black and get back to the story" is what I usually think), and I'd just rather have nothing to do with it. </blockquote><p>Well that sure seems like you're not asexual at all. Being asexual would mean that you would just not care about those moment, because you don't understand or you're not interested by them.
<p>Being Extremely uncomfortable means you have some kind of shame or something about it, and that's a problem in American Culture. I totally agree with Icyshadow here, in most culture it's not taboo at all...</p>
<p></blockquote><p>Asexual is no innate interest in sex.
<p>Up bringing, can create an aversion to subject. </p>
<p>The two things are not incompatible.</p>
<p>Orthos is both a sexual, and very prudish. I ascribe nothing negative to that prudishness, other than my afore mentioned consideration that it is a pity because it excludes some of the greats.</p>Darkorin wrote:Orthos wrote: Anything sex-related is a major WTFNOTHX for me. I blame part of it on my being raised that way and part on being asexual. It's just extremely uncomfortable to have to see, especially when it's just tacked onto the story for fanservice ("okay yes they're in love/lust and sleep together, why can't they just fade to black and get back to the story" is what I usually think), and I'd just rather have nothing to do with it.
Well that sure seems like you're not asexual...Zombieneighbours2012-11-09T16:15:06ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroDarkorinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#802012-11-09T14:46:02Z2012-11-09T14:46:02Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Orthos wrote:</div><blockquote> Anything sex-related is a major WTFNOTHX for me. I blame part of it on my being raised that way and part on being asexual. It's just extremely uncomfortable to have to see, especially when it's just tacked onto the story for fanservice ("okay yes they're in love/lust and sleep together, why can't they just fade to black and get back to the story" is what I usually think), and I'd just rather have nothing to do with it. </blockquote><p>Well that sure seems like you're not asexual at all. Being asexual would mean that you would just not care about those moment, because you don't understand or you're not interested by them.
<p>Being Extremely uncomfortable means you have some kind of shame or something about it, and that's a problem in American Culture. I totally agree with Icyshadow here, in most culture it's not taboo at all...</p>Orthos wrote:Anything sex-related is a major WTFNOTHX for me. I blame part of it on my being raised that way and part on being asexual. It's just extremely uncomfortable to have to see, especially when it's just tacked onto the story for fanservice ("okay yes they're in love/lust and sleep together, why can't they just fade to black and get back to the story" is what I usually think), and I'd just rather have nothing to do with it.
Well that sure seems like you're not asexual at all. Being...Darkorin2012-11-09T14:46:02ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroIcyshadowhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#792012-11-09T13:56:33Z2012-11-09T13:56:33Z<p>Here in Finland, Mickey Mouse is nothing compared to Donald Duck.</p>
<p>Donald Duck comics are sold nation-wide, while nobody cares about Mickey.</p>Here in Finland, Mickey Mouse is nothing compared to Donald Duck.
Donald Duck comics are sold nation-wide, while nobody cares about Mickey.Icyshadow2012-11-09T13:56:33ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroCharlie Bell (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#782012-11-09T13:53:11Z2012-11-09T13:50:44Z<p>I heard that in 6th edition, the guy who runs the game will be the Dungeon Mouseter.</p>I heard that in 6th edition, the guy who runs the game will be the Dungeon Mouseter.Charlie Bell (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 16, RPG Superstar 2013 Top 16)2012-11-09T13:50:44ZRe: Forums/Gamer Life: General Discussion: Disney wants HasbroOrthoshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4p2&page=2?Disney-wants-Hasbro#772012-11-09T13:50:19Z2012-11-09T13:50:19Z<p>Anything sex-related is a major WTFNOTHX for me. I blame part of it on my being raised that way and part on being asexual. It's just extremely uncomfortable to have to see, especially when it's just tacked onto the story for fanservice ("okay yes they're in love/lust and sleep together, why can't they just fade to black and get back to the story" is what I usually think), and I'd just rather have nothing to do with it.</p>Anything sex-related is a major WTFNOTHX for me. I blame part of it on my being raised that way and part on being asexual. It's just extremely uncomfortable to have to see, especially when it's just tacked onto the story for fanservice ("okay yes they're in love/lust and sleep together, why can't they just fade to black and get back to the story" is what I usually think), and I'd just rather have nothing to do with it.Orthos2012-11-09T13:50:19Z