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"And I kill everyone in the marketplace..." Stone Call questions.


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RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Going to try to keep this as spoiler free as possible.
When playing <redacted> this weekend, I got a chance to use stone call. When I read the AoE, I had to do a double take. Area cylinder (40-ft. radius, 20 ft. high) I centred it in the corner of the map, hitting the <redacted> and the damn <redacted> killing the later with the spell.

Has anyone else had any experience with this? Turning half a mapsheet into difficult terrain, not to mention the local fauna into hamburger, seems a bit excessive. Now I couldn't use it against <redacted> at the end since there was a hostage who we didn't know the location.

I joked it made Survial checks for foraging trivial. "We need food." *points to forest, casts stone call* WHOOM! "Ok, that should have killed enough squirels, foxes and the like to feed us, just don't tell the druids."

Shadow Lodge

Pretty much has the same dangers as any other AoE spell. The only real difference in danger between stone call and fireball is that the former does less damage and leaves behind rough terrain, while the latter does more damage and might set something on fire.


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2d6 damage isn't enough to kill most of the fauna (trees) and you're probably safe under a tree (or behind a tree in case of fireball).

Nevertheless, Golarion must be a place littered with circles of scorched earth and the like. I know I had my fair share.

Lantern Lodge

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Puma D. Murmelman wrote:

2d6 damage isn't enough to kill most of the fauna (trees) and you're probably safe under a tree (or behind a tree in case of fireball).

Nevertheless, Golarion must be a place littered with circles of scorched earth and the like. I know I had my fair share.

Trees = flora

woodland creatures = fauna

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Puma D. Murmelman wrote:

2d6 damage isn't enough to kill most of the fauna (trees) and you're probably safe under a tree (or behind a tree in case of fireball).

Nevertheless, Golarion must be a place littered with circles of scorched earth and the like. I know I had my fair share.

Pedantic Flora = plants Fauna = Animals. :-)

@Orthos, I was just kind of awestruck by the 'How big is that?' effect. Though everyone cheered when it killed the <spoiler>.

Sanos spoilers!

Spoiler:
Damned Pugwumpies hiding in the bush.


Galnörag wrote:

Trees = flora

woodland creatures = fauna

You're right of course, my mistake.

Osirion

[tangent]
It's somewhat odd that, in a world where something can be both a dragon, an undead and perhaps even an outsider, all at the same time, there aren't a lot of critters that are both flora and fauna.

No tiger lilies or viper vines?
[/tangent]

Stone call sounds like a great way to go quail or pheasant hunting. Just make sure your lawyer friend doesn't get in the area of effect.

Shadow Lodge

Matthew Morris wrote:
Puma D. Murmelman wrote:

2d6 damage isn't enough to kill most of the fauna (trees) and you're probably safe under a tree (or behind a tree in case of fireball).

Nevertheless, Golarion must be a place littered with circles of scorched earth and the like. I know I had my fair share.

Pedantic Flora = plants Fauna = Animals. :-)

@Orthos, I was just kind of awestruck by the 'How big is that?' effect. Though everyone cheered when it killed the <spoiler>.

Sanos spoilers!
** spoiler omitted **

The Magus in my Kingmaker game used it in Chapter One almost exclusively for swarm-killing in cramped quarters. He too was somewhat surprised by "wait the radius is HOW big?!" when he used it for the first time above-ground.

Shadow Lodge

Set wrote:

[tangent]

It's somewhat odd that, in a world where something can be both a dragon, an undead and perhaps even an outsider, all at the same time, there aren't a lot of critters that are both flora and fauna.

No tiger lilies or viper vines?
[/tangent]

I am rather surprised someone has not statted these yet. Perhaps I might need to rectify this. The Stolen Lands have plenty of strange wildlife, this wouldn't be out of place....


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I've noticed this too. 40' radius is huge. It's like the ultimate terrorist spell. That 2d6 is higher than the average commoner's hp, and it's going to make rescue operations difficult. For such a low-level spell too!


Set wrote:
Stone call sounds like a great way to go quail or pheasant hunting. Just make sure your lawyer friend doesn't get in the area of effect.

Just make sure that your lawyer acquaintance is in the area of effect and does not have enough hp to still stand afterwards.


Well, that's the tradeoff. Nice solid damage but the radius means you can't aim for anything in particular. If you have a single d00d you want dead, you gotta use a more focused spell. If you've got a goblin encampment that you want to obliterate, this is your go-to spell.


I would imagine that in game world the spell is used primarily to stop large cavalry charges on the battlefield. I would assume it's also in every battle mage's spell book for just that reason.

Not every spell is meant to be cast in a ruin/dungeon/cave/lair.

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