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Rules Questions

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

What are the stats for pets that were bought with gold? I assume that since they're not familiars granted by a class you don't get any skill bonus from them, but how many HP do they have, etc? Just in case my character's new pet monkey gets hit.


They would just have boring old bestiary stats. Monkeys can be found in Bestiary 1, or here.

Andoran

If you look under the familiar entry, the base stats are those of the normal animal

Familiars

Monkey example in that link:

N Tiny animal
Init +2; Senses low-light vision; Perception +5
AC 14, touch 14, flat-footed 12 (+2 Dex, +2 size)
hp 4 (1d8)
Fort +2, Ref +4, Will +1
Speed 30 ft., climb 30 ft.
Melee bite +4 melee (1d3–4)
Space 2-1/2 ft.; Reach 0 ft.
Str 3, Dex 15, Con 10, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 5
Base Atk +0; CMB +0; CMD 6

Feats: Weapon Finesse
Skills: Acrobatics +10, Climb +10, Perception +5; Racial Modifiers +8 Acrobatics

Monkeys are highly social creatures. They spend the majority of their day searching for food.

Most of the time, a non-familiar version of these animals will not provide enough tactical benefit in combat to warrant needing to know their stats beyond AC. If they get hit, they are most likely dead.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

So do you still gain the benefit of having the familiar even if you bought it as a pet?

Special Abilities wrote:
The master of a monkey familiar gains a +3 bonus on Acrobatics checks.


No. Those benefits are for familiars only, not random animals. If you could get the benefit that way every adventurer would walk around with a sack full of pets.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

Also, how did they get "+10 Climb" when the monkey's Str is at a -4? The only way to get that is if they used the monkey's Dex for Climb instead of Str, but I can't find any special ability that lets you do that.


rules state any creature size tiny or smaller use dex instead of str for cmb/cmd. maybe there is something like that for climb also (i dont have time to look at the moment)


Mike Tuholski wrote:
Also, how did they get "+10 Climb" when the monkey's Str is at a -4? The only way to get that is if they used the monkey's Dex for Climb instead of Str, but I can't find any special ability that lets you do that.
Quote:
Presented here are the base animal statistics for all of the most commonly used familiars—of course, these statistics can also be used for normal animals as well. Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
Quote:
Presented here are the base animal statistics for all of the most commonly used familiars—of course, these statistics can also be used for normal animals as well. Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks.

I figured there was something like that for small/tiny animals, but that still doesn't explain how it has a +10 to climb unless it has some special ability that lets it use its Acrobatics for Climb.

Climb = +2 (Dex), +1 (Skill Rank), +3 (Class Skill) = +6

EDIT: Also, the listed skills should then include "Swim +2"


Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

Climb speed, and racial bonuses.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Climb speed, and racial bonuses.

Could you please quote something on this, I'm not following you. The only racial bonus I see listed is +8 Acrobatics.


Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

See here.

Osirion

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
blackbloodtroll wrote:
See here.

Alright, thanks. That explains the climb speed but I'm not sure why they didn't include Swim +2 on the monkey's stats. Maybe it was just an oversight.


Quote:
Alright, thanks. That explains the climb speed but I'm not sure why they didn't include Swim +2 on the monkey's stats. Maybe it was just an oversight.

Because a monkey has no ranks in swim, nor does it have a racial bonus to swim. Skill lists usually only include the skills that have racial modifiers, or ranks in them. It doesn't include every skill. As the monkey has only its ability modifier to Swim, there is no real reason to list it.

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