paizo.com Recent Posts in Pet Statisticspaizo.com Recent Posts in Pet Statistics2012-11-04T15:50:52Z2012-11-04T15:50:52ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsJeraahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#142012-11-04T19:21:57Z2012-11-04T19:21:57Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote> Alright, thanks. That explains the climb speed but I'm not sure why they didn't include Swim +2 on the monkey's stats. Maybe it was just an oversight. </blockquote><p>Because a monkey has no ranks in swim, nor does it have a racial bonus to swim. Skill lists usually only include the skills that have racial modifiers, or ranks in them. It doesn't include every skill. As the monkey has only its ability modifier to Swim, there is no real reason to list it.Quote:Alright, thanks. That explains the climb speed but I'm not sure why they didn't include Swim +2 on the monkey's stats. Maybe it was just an oversight.
Because a monkey has no ranks in swim, nor does it have a racial bonus to swim. Skill lists usually only include the skills that have racial modifiers, or ranks in them. It doesn't include every skill. As the monkey has only its ability modifier to Swim, there is no real reason to list it.Jeraa2012-11-04T19:21:57ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMike Tuholskihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#132012-11-04T17:45:16Z2012-11-04T17:45:16Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote> See <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules#TOC-Climb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here.</a> </blockquote><p>Alright, thanks. That explains the climb speed but I'm not sure why they didn't include Swim +2 on the monkey's stats. Maybe it was just an oversight.blackbloodtroll wrote:See here.
Alright, thanks. That explains the climb speed but I'm not sure why they didn't include Swim +2 on the monkey's stats. Maybe it was just an oversight.Mike Tuholski2012-11-04T17:45:16ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet Statisticsblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#122012-11-04T17:14:58Z2012-11-04T17:14:58Z<p>See <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules#TOC-Climb" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>See here.blackbloodtroll2012-11-04T17:14:58ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMike Tuholskihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#112012-11-04T17:09:26Z2012-11-04T17:09:26Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote> Climb speed, and racial bonuses. </blockquote><p>Could you please quote something on this, I'm not following you. The only racial bonus I see listed is +8 Acrobatics.blackbloodtroll wrote:Climb speed, and racial bonuses.
Could you please quote something on this, I'm not following you. The only racial bonus I see listed is +8 Acrobatics.Mike Tuholski2012-11-04T17:09:26ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet Statisticsblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#102012-11-04T17:05:48Z2012-11-04T17:05:48Z<p>Climb speed, and racial bonuses.</p>Climb speed, and racial bonuses.blackbloodtroll2012-11-04T17:05:48ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMike Tuholskihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#92012-11-04T17:00:12Z2012-11-04T17:00:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>Presented here are the base animal statistics for all of the most commonly used familiars—of course, these statistics can also be used for normal animals as well. <b>Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks.</b></blockquote></blockquote><p>I figured there was something like that for small/tiny animals, but that still doesn't explain how it has a +10 to climb unless it has some special ability that lets it use its Acrobatics for Climb.
<p>Climb = +2 (Dex), +1 (Skill Rank), +3 (Class Skill) = +6</p>
<p>EDIT: Also, the listed skills should then include "Swim +2"</p>Quote:Presented here are the base animal statistics for all of the most commonly used familiars—of course, these statistics can also be used for normal animals as well. Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks.
I figured there was something like that for small/tiny animals, but that still doesn't explain how it has a +10 to climb unless it has some special ability that lets it use its Acrobatics for Climb. Climb = +2 (Dex), +1 (Skill Rank), +3 (Class Skill) =
...Mike Tuholski2012-11-04T17:00:12ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsJeraahttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#82012-11-04T16:56:09Z2012-11-04T16:56:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Mike Tuholski wrote:</div><blockquote> Also, how did they get "+10 Climb" when the monkey's Str is at a -4? The only way to get that is if they used the monkey's Dex for Climb instead of Str, but I can't find any special ability that lets you do that. </blockquote><div class="messageboard-quotee">Quote:</div><blockquote>Presented here are the base animal statistics for all of the most commonly used familiars—of course, these statistics can also be used for normal animals as well. <b>Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks.</b></blockquote><p>Mike Tuholski wrote:Also, how did they get "+10 Climb" when the monkey's Str is at a -4? The only way to get that is if they used the monkey's Dex for Climb instead of Str, but I can't find any special ability that lets you do that.
Quote:Presented here are the base animal statistics for all of the most commonly used familiars—of course, these statistics can also be used for normal animals as well. Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks.Jeraa2012-11-04T16:56:09ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet Statisticsasthyrilhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#72012-11-04T16:44:41Z2012-11-04T16:44:41Z<p>rules state any creature size tiny or smaller use dex instead of str for cmb/cmd. maybe there is something like that for climb also (i dont have time to look at the moment)</p>rules state any creature size tiny or smaller use dex instead of str for cmb/cmd. maybe there is something like that for climb also (i dont have time to look at the moment)asthyril2012-11-04T16:44:41ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMike Tuholskihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#62012-11-04T16:31:17Z2012-11-04T16:31:17Z<p>Also, how did they get "+10 Climb" when the monkey's Str is at a -4? The only way to get that is if they used the monkey's Dex for Climb instead of Str, but I can't find any special ability that lets you do that.</p>Also, how did they get "+10 Climb" when the monkey's Str is at a -4? The only way to get that is if they used the monkey's Dex for Climb instead of Str, but I can't find any special ability that lets you do that.Mike Tuholski2012-11-04T16:31:17ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMort the Cleverly Namedhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#52012-11-04T16:28:06Z2012-11-04T16:28:06Z<p>No. Those benefits are for familiars only, not random animals. If you could get the benefit that way every adventurer would walk around with a sack full of pets.</p>No. Those benefits are for familiars only, not random animals. If you could get the benefit that way every adventurer would walk around with a sack full of pets.Mort the Cleverly Named2012-11-04T16:28:06ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMike Tuholskihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#42012-11-04T16:22:37Z2012-11-04T16:22:37Z<p>So do you still gain the benefit of having the familiar even if you bought it as a pet?</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Special Abilities wrote:</div><blockquote>The master of a monkey familiar gains a +3 bonus on Acrobatics checks.</blockquote><p>So do you still gain the benefit of having the familiar even if you bought it as a pet?
Special Abilities wrote:The master of a monkey familiar gains a +3 bonus on Acrobatics checks.Mike Tuholski2012-11-04T16:22:37ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsShar Tahlhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#32012-11-04T16:01:43Z2012-11-04T16:01:43Z<p>If you look under the familiar entry, the base stats are those of the normal animal</p>
<p><a href="http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/monsters/familiar.html#_familiar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Familiars</a></p>
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<p>Most of the time, a non-familiar version of these animals will not provide enough tactical benefit in combat to warrant needing to know their stats beyond AC. If they get hit, they are most likely dead.</p>If you look under the familiar entry, the base stats are those of the normal animal
Familiars
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Most of the time, a non-familiar version of these animals will not provide enough tactical benefit in combat to warrant needing to know their stats beyond AC. If they get hit, they are most likely dead.Shar Tahl2012-11-04T16:01:43ZRe: Forums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMort the Cleverly Namedhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#22012-11-04T15:53:02Z2012-11-04T15:53:02Z<p>They would just have boring old bestiary stats. Monkeys can be found in Bestiary 1, or <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/primates/primate-monkey" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>They would just have boring old bestiary stats. Monkeys can be found in Bestiary 1, or here.Mort the Cleverly Named2012-11-04T15:53:02ZForums: Rules Questions: Pet StatisticsMike Tuholskihttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4fy?Pet-Statistics#12012-11-04T15:50:52Z2012-11-04T15:50:52Z<p>What are the stats for pets that were bought with gold? I assume that since they're not familiars granted by a class you don't get any skill bonus from them, but how many HP do they have, etc? Just in case my character's new pet monkey gets hit.</p>What are the stats for pets that were bought with gold? I assume that since they're not familiars granted by a class you don't get any skill bonus from them, but how many HP do they have, etc? Just in case my character's new pet monkey gets hit.Mike Tuholski2012-11-04T15:50:52Z