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Pregens, Chronicle Sheets and Possible Issue? New GMs Cautious Approach


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Andoran *

Hey guys,

Just got back from a con, played in some PFS stuff, loved it. Now me and my gaming group are looking to start doing some stuff locally, and looks like I'm first to the wall with my GM hat on. (Wouldn't want it any other way)

Now lets say a situation rises where a player shows up to the table, they have a pregen character from a previous game, there character is well beyond 1st level, and there are no chronicle sheets showing the progression to Fourth.

Is this character even legal for play? Are you allowed to take a pre generated character and keep it for play? What exactly do you do about missing Chronicle sheets?

While this situation may not actually happen, I've got a worried feeling it may in the next few months and I'd like to be armed against it. That said - hopefully everything is all hunky dory and everyone will be happy! :3

And two quick questions about Chronicle Sheets.

1 - The number listed by my event - that is my event code? Correct?
2 - If a character dies horribly, and the player makes a new one, and is allowed to replay a session - can they attribute the Chronicle to their new character?

Thanks for the answers in advance. Looking forward to getting a session or two under my belt.

****

Mordaith wrote:

Now lets say a situation rises where a player shows up to the table, they have a pregen character from a previous game, there character is well beyond 1st level, and there are no chronicle sheets showing the progression to Fourth.

Is this character even legal for play? Are you allowed to take a pre generated character and keep it for play? What exactly do you do about missing Chronicle sheets?

If there are no chronicles or not enough of them it is not a legal character. Every character starts at level one with 0 XP with no exceptions. If they are missing chronicle sheets then they can play a pregen for the session and you can work with them to figure out what's going on afterwards, assuming there isn't time to straighten it all out before-hand.

Mordaith wrote:
While this situation may not actually happen, I've got a worried feeling it may in the next few months and I'd like to be armed against it. That said - hopefully everything is all hunky dory and everyone will be happy! :3

I've never had this happen yet, so far as I know. I don't bother checking a player's chronicles. There are few reasons why I would do so, such as committing a particularly evil act and looking for notes on past instances from other GMs. I go into every session with an assumption of trust with the players. Anything else just makes the game un-fun.

Mordaith wrote:

And two quick questions about Chronicle Sheets.

1 - The number listed by my event - that is my event code? Correct?
2 - If a character dies horribly, and the player makes a new one, and is allowed to replay a session - can they attribute the Chronicle to their new character?

Thanks for the answers in advance. Looking forward to getting a session or two under my belt.

1 - Yes, that's the event code.

2 - A player can only play each scenario once for credit, even if their PC dies. The only time a player can replay a scenario is to make a legal table using a pregen, and then they still do not receive a chronicle - it is for fun only. Don't worry too much about this though as there are lots of scenarios to play.

***** RPG Superstar 2008 Top 16 aka Sir_Wulf

Mike Lindner wrote:
A player can only play each scenario once for credit, even if their PC dies. The only time a player can replay a scenario is to make a legal table using a pregen, and then they still do not receive a chronicle - it is for fun only. Don't worry too much about this though as there are lots of scenarios to play.

If they wanted one of their characters to get credit for the scenario, see if they're willing to GM a session of that adventure. They can then apply the GM credit to that character.

Andoran *

Yah, I'm not really expecting problems. I just prefer to be prepared. In any game I run, even just at home, regular, non-pfs games, I prefer everything nice neat and in order. I just like to give things a check over and am worried about what I should do if I come across a discrepancy.

Thanks for the quick answer on the matter - hopefully I never need to act on the advice. :3

Sczarni ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman aka Coraith

First thing. As a GM you can always refuse a person a seat at your table or refuse to be seated at someones table(which may mean you wont get the opportunity to play). While this wont make you any friends sometimes it is a necessary action.

As a GM you can ask the person to submit to an audit, they can refuse, and then you are left with the choice of letting them sit at your table or turning them away. If you wish to take it to a higher authority you can speak with a VO(Venture Officer) in your area for options and opinions.

Whatever choice you make, please do not do this in front of other players, always talk to them one on one unless you feel a witness is needed. Then bring just one person and make sure you let the witness know that you don't require input unless asked for it and they are there for the express purpose of being a witness. Remember the more people you bring into the situation the stronger the reaction from the person is going to be.

ALWAYS be respectful, even if you are giving someone bad news.

Sczarni ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Washington—Pullman aka Coraith

I know it's a little off topic from your original post, but I figured it is good advice if you are planning on developing a PFS community.

Andoran *

Much appreciated and fantastic advice. Regrettably I have some experience in dealing with this sort of thing. I was a Storyteller for a local branch of the Camarilla larp.

Like I said, I don't think there will be any problems. *Keeps fingers Crossed*

Grand Lodge ****

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Mike Lindner wrote:
2 - A player can only play each scenario once for credit, even if their PC dies. The only time a player can replay a scenario is to make a legal table using a pregen, and then they still do not receive a chronicle -...

The exception to this rule are Tier 1 scenarios and modules. The following may be played repeatedly with a new 1st level character:

Scenarios

First Steps—Part I: In Service to Lore
First Steps—Part II: To Delve the Dungeon Deep
First Steps—Part III: A Vision of Betrayal

Free RPG Day Adventures (Short module much like a scenario)

Master of the Fallen Fortress
We Be Goblins!

Modules

The Godsmouth Heresy
Crypt of the Everflame
Murder's Mark (just released and no chronicle yet)

Grand Lodge **

Mordaith wrote:

Now lets say a situation rises where a player shows up to the table, they have a pregen character from a previous game, there character is well beyond 1st level, and there are no chronicle sheets showing the progression to Fourth.

Is this character even legal for play? Are you allowed to take a pre generated character and keep it for play? What exactly do you do about missing Chronicle sheets?

The player can use a 4th level pregenerated character again, provided the GM agrees to seat him with it. It's the same pregen - it doesn't advance or keep anything (or lose anything) from the previous scenario.

If the pregen was originally first level, he could have made his own first level character with the same statistics. He must keep and produce the physical chronicle sheets for its career (or follow the advice given in many other threads to replace them if required) just as he would for any other PC.

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