Xenh |
Revery took cold damage? I don't remember that happening.
Revery |
"Subdual damage for all: 1d6 ⇒ 1"
Gwendalyn |
Nice having a med rate higher than ones mana pool, like before KEI had a level cap, or being a filthy twink with a fungi tunic.
I only understood half of that, but yeah. I don't really see Gwendalyn's small mana pool (at max Wis!) as a bad thing. Not a good thing either, just a thing. (Raising her Wis is my priority, but more for the mana recovery and DC bump.) We won't be able to take on such big challenges as we could if she had more mana points, but we also won't have to wait as long to recover for the next one.
That's what makes Cannibalize cut both ways: it might save our bacon now and then (once I get it at level 6), but if I use it too much, then I'll have to play it safe for 12 hours straight. Definitely a last resort.
By the by, did you ever decide what to do about the XP loss from death?
Gwendalyn |
I'm playing a little fast and loose with the setting. At least in the online game, it would be nigh-impossible for a couple of level 1s to make it from Halas to Freeport, IIRC. But I like this version better than her being abducted in the northlands.
Xenh |
"Subdual damage for all: 1d6 ⇒ 1"
That's cold damage for those that failed their save.
<nuteth kicketh>
Revery |
"Subdual damage for all who failed their saves" contains an extra four words that would have made it clearer, as well as being technically correct.
<:-p -eth>
Gwendalyn |
Oh, and speaking of playing with the setting, I hope you don't mind my fleshing out Halas while I flesh out Gwendalyn. This is what I've said so far:
* Halas has municipal baths that are segregated by sex. This isn't so much for modesty as so that they can talk about the opposite sex, and relax without being hit on, and not have to watch couples cuddle (or pet, or screw).
* Halasites don't have baths at home, but they do have saunas, where the family sweats together in the nude. (I modeled this after old Finnish culture; according to some superficial research that I did for a class on public speaking, the home sauna was where they'd be born into the world, cleansed during life, and prepared for burial.) They've been known to cool down afterward by rolling in the snow.
* The drinking age in Halas is when you can handle it without crying or starting a fight when a drunk jostles you out of the way or says something mean. That's how a 17 year-old already has an alcohol tolerance better than anyone else on the raft.
Just for my own use, here are some other declarations that I need to add to her background.
* The family business is fishing, but she never learned it more than just for fun.
* Her usual response to being pissed off is to go have a few drinks.
* The last thing she remembers before the slave ship is splitting up with Tudan in Freeport to do some individual crafting, and then going drinking instead, because she was mad at him for not respecting her toughness.
Gwendalyn |
As healer, I may get assertive over your hit points, because I really need to know them accurately. Please don't take it the wrong way.
@Quinaweniel: You only have 2 subdual points. Xenh rolled a 1 for the second time in a row, thank the Tribunal! 2 is your total, not how much to add. Also, you'll fall unconscious when your subdual points are greater than your current hit points -- so it would be good for you to increase your hit points.
@Everyone: I only have 2 mana left. I need to wait and see what happens with the next set of Fort saves. Quinaweniel is the closest to unconsciousness, but everyone else is within 6 or less (potentially just one roll). The only reason why I can afford to wait is because of my cold resistance; at worst, I might get 3 subdual points (vs. 5 hit points). But if I get 2 or 3, then I'll need to heal myself first, since I can't help anyone else if I'm unconscious.
Gwendalyn |
I was editing my post when you wrote that, so now we've confused everyone. :)
I was trying to subtly suggest that you consider casting Minor Shielding on yourself. That's all. :)
Xenh |
Xenh wrote:Nice having a med rate higher than ones mana pool, like before KEI had a level cap, or being a filthy twink with a fungi tunic.I only understood half of that
KEI (Koadic's Endless Intellect) was the endgame level 60 enchanter spell that every lower level character that could cast spells was running to pay for, since it effectively made them be able to cast nonstop for hours. The developers (devs) changed the game and gave it a level cap, so you'd need to be level 46 for it to land on you. Imagine being level 1 and getting a spell cast on you that did this for 2.5 hours:
1: Increase Mana Pool by 2502: Increase Mana by 14 per tick
3: Increase INT by 25
4: Increase WIS by 25
The fungi tunic (Fungus Covered Scale Tunic) was a chest item that gave the wearer a 15 point regeneration per tic, which made them effectively immortal at low levels. If you started getting your arse handed to you all you would do is run a bit, regen and then engage once again. No one could camp Guk at lower levels, so it was an item only a "twink" (character with gear way beyond their abilities to get themselves) could wear.
"Subdual damage for all who failed their saves" contains an extra four words that would have made it clearer, as well as being technically correct.
<:-p -eth>
*giggles*
Well played :)
Oh, and speaking of playing with the setting, I hope you don't mind my fleshing out Halas while I flesh out Gwendalyn.
Works for me as long as it doesn't run contrary to the very basic description in the main book, I'm on board.
Xenh |
By the by, did you ever decide what to do about the XP loss from death?
I am currently considering just giving Gwendalyn 7 training points, then hitting her with the experience negative and accepting the resurrection experience loss, which forces me to award individual experience.
Another option is to take away the 7 training points I gave up, but people tend to get possessive if you try to take away their teddy bears once you give them.
Another other thought would be to punish the one resurrected in a non-experience way (-1 to CON maybe), which means I could give group experience again and just leave the bonus training points where they are.
Another other other thought would be to give group experience, but permit the group to vote on who gets a roleplaying award at the end of the week/month and give that person a bonus.
Still up in the air...and it might remain that way until we get closer to me murdering my first PC.
If anyone has an easy solution I'm all auditory flaps.
I'm playing a little fast and loose with the setting. At least in the online game, it would be nigh-impossible for a couple of level 1s to make it from Halas to Freeport, IIRC. But I like this version better than her being abducted in the northlands.
My first character, an iksar monk, made it from Field of Bones to East Commonlands, and turned in enough orc stuff to bank in Freeport.
Speaking of how difficult it was to get there at level 1 at that time, I think I died 91x en route.
Good times.
Gwendalyn |
Well, yes. In EQ, "would be nigh-impossible" is another way of saying "would take lots and lots of time". ;)
@Maruusk: As your healer, I order you to be conscious with only 2 subdual points. I have no idea how you arrived at 5. Please don't make my job harder. :p
Edit: I'm definitely against the Con penalty. EQ Rez you can just work it off with some time. With how many training points it takes to raise an ability score, that's just not the same at all.
If I got a vote, it would be to take back the banana and go with individual XP. The more I read, the more integral to the game it looks.
Quinaweniel |
Correction:Quinaweniel's status is -Fatigued; HP 4/4, Subdual dam 2/4
Does she needs channeling check to cast Minor Shielding on herself? She would need to cast it once every 10 minutes but it'll raise her HP.
edit:spellcasting status; Channelling +4(defensively+8); Meditation +7(recovers 7 mana/hour); Mana pool 8/8
Gwendalyn |
Yes, according to the DM, casting a spell takes Channeling DC 16. (Actually he said 15 + spell level, but all we know are 1st-level spells. And he also said that Minor Healing can be cast without a check due to being a free action.) But you can attempt the casting over and over until you succeed, since failure of that type doesn't expend mana, so it's really not much of a restriction at the moment -- especially not for a spell with instant recast.
@All: I've enjoyed being able to post a lot this three-day weekend, but just so you all know, I'll mostly be limited to late evenings GMT-8 until Friday. You know, working for money. ;)
Xenh |
I have lost a post or 6 getting this message:
"Sorry
The requested URL was not found on this server, or you do not have permission to access this area."
So annoying, so I asked about it and got a couple replies.
If you use Firefox, get this plugin. It's very helpful for those situations, Xenh.
Agreed, Lazarus has been a must-have extension for these forums since long before now. It's also available for Chrome if you prefer that to FireFox.
How use Lazarus: LINK
Xenh |
On the rules' lawyer conversation, from the days of yore, I am known to make them cry. I work hard to be consistent, but I never let the rules stand in the way of a good story. An example is the nat 20 fort save that just healed a point of subdual damage. If that caused a twitch in your eye, please be prepared for more and more of the same :) Worry not, I also beat the snot out of critical failures!
Edit: I'm definitely against the Con penalty. EQ Rez you can just work it off with some time. With how many training points it takes to raise an ability score, that's just not the same at all.
If I got a vote, it would be to take back the banana and go with individual XP. The more I read, the more integral to the game it looks.
All votes count, or at least have the illusion of counting.
If no one would have an issue with taking back the 7 points, I'll consider that. Let me know and I'll take silence to mean, "Do whatever you want, I won't grouse later."
The CON penalty would be temporary BTW, like the rez sickness that comes into effect in EverQuest. I'm not sure how much I like this though, since it's just more accounting. I want an easier system.
Does she needs channeling check to cast Minor Shielding on herself? She would need to cast it once every 10 minutes but it'll raise her HP.
Yup, channeling checks are needed due to the distractions of sailing about on the good ship dysfunction.
But you can attempt the casting over and over until you succeed, since failure of that type doesn't expend mana, so it's really not much of a restriction at the moment -- especially not for a spell with instant recast.
We <3 fizzles here :)
Revery |
I have lost a post or 6 getting this message:
"Sorry
The requested URL was not found on this server, or you do not have permission to access this area."So annoying, so I asked about it and got a couple replies.
Cheapy wrote:If you use Firefox, get this plugin. It's very helpful for those situations, Xenh.Laithoron wrote:Agreed, Lazarus has been a must-have extension for these forums since long before now. It's also available for Chrome if you prefer that to FireFox.How use Lazarus: LINK
I have not lost any messages (I use Chrome on Windows 7). What is Lazarus?
Revery |
I vote for keeping things the same as they are now.
How often do you reckon we will be resurrected? It is a 12th level cleric spell. Is there another spell, lower level and usable by Shawomen?
Xenh |
I have not lost any messages (I use Chrome on Windows 7). What is Lazarus?
Lazarus autosaves your text as you type in forms, so if you lose it....BAM, back from the dead.
Well apparently, I've just installed it 8 minutes ago.
I vote for keeping things the same as they are now.
How often do you reckon we will be resurrected? It is a 12th level cleric spell. Is there another spell, lower level and usable by Shawomen?
Vote tallied.
<those with high spot skills notice that the vote switches to Obama>
Reanimation is a 4th level cleric spell and there's a tonne of other resurrection spells in the game.
Rezzes are common in EverQuest, because this universe is all about murdering you in so many different ways. I won't say common, but certainly not rare. You won't match a Paranoia death rate, but you might get close on a raid.
There's no rezzers in the party, so you'll have to pay for one to be cast on you, though that's not that scary since you don't have to pay for a crazy high reagent cost.
Still pondering and tallying other inputs....
Xenh |
Just noticed I did 1D5 for subdual damage this time around. Too late to change it on the fly, but my successive rolls will be individual for damage to make it a tad more dramatic/realistic.
The fates have conspired to make life easy for you damage-wise. I aim to misbehave :). If death comes for you then blame the die roller.
Fair warning the next rolls will be potentially brutal, this is the time to use your light sabre to split open Luke's mount and shove him into the warm innards.
p.s. Those that played with me bfore warned you to run!
Xenh |
You say this because you never tried me as a GM.Suffice to say i cannot run the type of games i like on these forums :)
What sort of games are those?
BTW daring me to unleash the full brunt of my evil when you have 4 hit points is suicidal :)
Gandal |
Gandal wrote:You say this because you never tried me as a GM.Suffice to say i cannot run the type of games i like on these forums :)What sort of games are those?
BTW daring me to unleash the full brunt of my evil when you have 4 hit points is suicidal :)
OK you asked for it; i'll spoiler it in case someone might be offended.
Xenh |
OK you asked for it; i'll spoiler it in case someone might be offended.
** spoiler omitted **
Oh, I see. Yeah, not really my cup o' java. :)
Gandal |
Gandal wrote:Oh, I see. Yeah, not really my cup o' java. :)OK you asked for it; i'll spoiler it in case someone might be offended.
** spoiler omitted **
Well, maybe i exagerated a bit, but you know,adventuring is a dangerous proposition :)
Anyway it isn't like that at all, or else no one would want to play with such a GM.Revery |
Gandal wrote:You say this because you never tried me as a GM.Suffice to say i cannot run the type of games i like on these forums :)What sort of games are those?
BTW daring me to unleash the full brunt of my evil when you have 4 hit points is suicidal :)
Okay, that was 27 point buy, right? I'm thinking an Iksar maybe... Or perhaps a Troll.
Xenh |
Well, maybe i exagerated a bit, but you know,adventuring is a dangerous proposition :)
Anyway it isn't like that at all, or else no one would want to play with such a GM.
I love the line attributed to Edmund Burke (Irish philosopher) "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
That is what pushes my game, since there is bucketfuls of evil in the real world that no one does anything about. It is nice to follow fantasy where someone stands up to such things.
Tis why I seek out heroes :)
Always forgot to ask,any of you know this comic book ?
I have the .pdf of the first one. Great artwork in it for sure.
Okay, that was 27 point buy, right? I'm thinking an Iksar maybe... Or perhaps a Troll.
*giggles maniacally*
Gandal |
Tis why I seek out heroes :)
And where are all the gods?
Where's the street-wise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream of what I need
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta soon
And he's gotta be larger than life
Somewhere after midnight
In my wildest fantasy
Somewhere just beyond my reach
There's someone reaching back for me
Racing on the thunder and rising with the heat
It's gonna take a superman to sweep me off feet
(chorus)
Up where the mountains meet the heavens above
Out where the lightning splits the sea
I would swear that there's someone somewhere
Watching me
Through the wind and the chill and the rain
And the storm and the flood
I can feel his approach
Like the fire in my blood
(chorus)
Holding out for a hero by Jim Steinman,Dean Pitchford,Bonnie Tyler
Xenh |
Xenh wrote:
Tis why I seek out heroes :)** spoiler omitted **
You are making me want to drive a tractor at you.
CHICKEN!
<does not notice that his shoe laces are wrapped around the pedal>
Gwendalyn |
No swim check required if you cling to the raft. Apparently a climb check to get back on board, and no check that I know of to move to a different side of it hand-over-hand.
Xenh |
Did i say something wrong? I apologize in that case,it was unintentional.
Nope, you said nothing wrong. My comments might make a bit more sense with the context of this: LINK.
I haven't got if i need swim check to get back on the raft
- DC 15 Swim check to swim in the waves.
- DC 12 Balance check to navigate the raft.- DC 10 Climb check to get back up onto the boat.
- No check required to move about in the water clinging to the side of the raft.
No swim check required if you cling to the raft. Apparently a climb check to get back on board, and no check that I know of to move to a different side of it hand-over-hand.
Correct, no check required, it's just time before the shark arrives.
p.s. No one said that's the only shark, just that is the only shark you've seen.
p.p.s. Unleash the kraken!
Gandal |
Nope, you said nothing wrong. My comments might make a bit more sense with the context of this:
There are so many video on youtube using that song i stopped looking for them.
And i was too young when Footlose came out,had forgot that movie but saw it back then.Xenh |
ugh.
that die roller sucks donkey dick
I am under the impression that it is just trying to make it dramatic, and dramatic it is, cause the shark is charging after next round and cutting someone in half :)
Revery |
The shark knows how yucky Erudite tastes, of course? Roll a knowledge check for sharky...
Gwendalyn |
Gwen is the heaviest member of the group. She even comes close to balancing out Revery and Quin combined.
As long as we're talking statistics, Gwendalyn is also the youngest and tallest member of the group. She's tied with Maruusk for strongest, and with Quinaweniel for wisest -- even though Quin is the oldest (as well as the shortest, lightest, and most charming).
Maruusk is the most agile, Revery is the smartest, and Sajeek is the toughest. Sajeek is also the only other one besides Gwen who is proficient with a physical attack that doesn't use a weapon.
In terms of alignments, we have two discordant good, a neutral good, an orderly neutral, and an orderly good.
No one knows the trained-only skills Disable Device, Knowledge (street smarts), Knowledge (warcraft), Pick Lock, Pick Pocket, Read Lips, and (of course) Undead Empathy.
Maruusk could add Sneak to his skills, since Vah Shir begin with 4 bonus ranks in it. Same with Language (Thieves' Cant) from Rogue. He also still doesn't have 5 subdual points (but now it's 4).
Okay, now back to deciding what to do.
Xenh |
The shark knows how yucky Erudite tastes, of course? Roll a knowledge check for sharky...
1d20 + 19 ⇒ (15) + 19 = 34
Sorry, the shark knows you're yummy cause all the taste is in the forehead.
You die first!
Couple of busy days here, can some of you use Quina?
Thanks for the heads up, not sure what you mean by "some of you use" though. I'll just guess it means NPC Quin since there's no IC post from you yesterday resolving your climb check.
Xenh |
Went fishing for some input on the resurrection thing here: LINK
Feel free to chime in if you have any suggestions.
She lies with her weight spread out and fists up: improbably, she is prepared to elbow the shark if it gets close enough.
Leave my sharks alone you brute!
(attack: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8).
How is it possible that I missed?
Grrr, stoopid die roller being influenced by Sajeek's earlier complaint about a low roll.
Gwendalyn |
I assume that my Strengthen and Quina's Minor Shielding have expired? Since you're going by 10 minute increments for the Fort saves.
Just to be clear, the Heal check was intended merely as a knowledge check. I really have no idea how far it is (in game terms) from unconsciousness to death or whatever from the cold, and I was hoping that Gwen could give me a hint.
Gwendalyn is very frustrated with not having regained a single mana point yet, but I understand that it's because as soon as the seas calmed enough for her to meditate properly, she went for a swim instead. It's one of many factors in her decision of what to do next...
Xenh |
I assume that my Strengthen and Quina's Minor Shielding have expired? Since you're going by 10 minute increments for the Fort saves.
Nope, both the strengthen and minor shielding are still in effect.
10 minute increments were based on sitting on the decking. Your dip in the ocean was much colder, which moved things up significantly.
Just to be clear, the Heal check was intended merely as a knowledge check. I really have no idea how far it is (in game terms) from unconsciousness to death or whatever from the cold, and I was hoping that Gwen could give me a hint.
Heal check was so low, not that Gwen would know that, that nothing is gleaned.
Xenh |
Good call healing Revery BTW.
Subdual cold damage because regular killing damage on the unconscious and he was en route to rolling up a new character.
Gwendalyn |
Ah. I didn't know that. But Gwendalyn didn't like how his breathing was becoming shallow, and I was hopeful that getting a shelter up would buy some time. With so little mana and so little info, it was a hard decision -- at the time, she was looking at the possibility of falling unconscious herself and not being able to help anyone -- so I'm glad it was a good one. :)