We Be Goblins - Legal Run Question

[Preston Hudson]

I am aware that WBG comes with 4 pregen goblins. The group I usually have at my PFS nights may be 5 or more. It is possible for me to legally run WBG with 5 players or is 4 the absolute table limit for that module. Thanks you all your help in this and my many other questions I have approached the community in the past.

[Marthian]

you can run with more.

[Preston Hudson]

Thank you. I wanted to make sure before I set up my backup plan for my game tomorrow night. I found 2 pregens Stumpbiter and Buggy Bugeye as I saw somewhere that these two were the recommended additional pregen goblins.

[Chris Mortika]

At my table, when I've had 5 or 6 PCs, that's been one or two duplicate characters. I've explained that somebody went out into the swamp one day, and ... well, two came back in. Obviously, one is a fake (the term "evil twin" doesn't seem to apply to goblins) and it's up to them to determine which is the real Chuffy or Rita...

[Craig Stokes]

When I played WBG earlier this year we had 6 players. We just made extra copies of the pregens and renamed a couple of them. Fun scenario. :-)

[Preston Hudson]

From what I read of it, it looks like it is going to be a blast. Can I use the two pregens that I found online, do they have to be duplicates of the ones with the module, or does it matter how I get the extra players in the module as long as I am using pregens?

[Kyle Baird]

Yes, you can use the two you found. FWIW, Jason Bulmahn was inolved in designing them.

[Red-Assassin]

Weird question incomming...

Can the winners of the Goblin Race boon, play this mod with his goblin PC?

[Patrick Harris @ SD]

Good heavens, I would hope so!

[Rycaut]

wouldn't that be on the fine print of that boon - as in this boon has to be the first but We Be Goblins somewhere in the next three... :)

certainly if I had such a boon I would look forward to playing We Be Goblins... perhaps with a whole table of folks with such boons...

(I suspect regular PFS Goblins would be a bit different from the pregens in the module - but I can only imagine how much fun it would be to play with them through the module.. and the Chronicle sheet would be quite inspirationally flavorful.

[Kyle Baird]

Chris Bonnet wrote:

Weird question incomming...

Can the winners of the Goblin Race boon, play this mod with his goblin PC?

I did. Whether or not that was strictly legal doesn't really matter. I risked my real character and the only "extra" reward I got out of it was the chance to play my goblin.

[Balgin]

Two? I'm aware of four new pregens for We Be Goblins bringing the party up to eight. I'm not sure if all four of them are PFS legal but I know the core four are.

Wich of these might not be legal?

Buggy Bugeye
Stumpbiter
Jakkit
Miss Gojangles?

I must admit that one or both of those last two does seem a bit powerful compared to the other Gobboes.

[Paz]

Buggy & Stumpbiter are the two that most people would accept as official. They can be downloaded here; that post is by the San Francisco VC, and states that they are designed by Jason Bulmahn.

I've never heard of the other two.

[Balgin]

Thanks Paz. Jakkit is a goblin ranger who hates animals (so practicaly everything in this scenario) and Miss Gojangles is a goblin sorceress with the aberrant bloodline who likes to burn stuff. A lot.

They both lack the Pathfinder Modules heading at the top of the page and the "additional pregens created by Jason Bulmahn & Michael Azolino" statement at the bottom. They do have a bit of smallprint at the bottom that states the following.

"This character sheet uses trademarks and/or copyrights owned by Paizo Publishing, LLC, which are used under Paizo's Community Use Policy. We are expressly prohibited from charging you to use or access this
content. This character sheet is not published, endorsed, or specifically approved by Paizo Publishing. For more information about Paizo's Community Use Policy, please visit paizo.com/communityuse. For
more information about Paizo Publishing and Paizo products, please visit paizo.com."

However the smallprint is very small and somewhat greyed out so it would be easy to overlook. I found the lack of header and lower border suspicious but just thought I'd check. I didn't want to have to decipher that smallprint.

[Paz]

That smallprint is just the text from the Paizo Community Use Policy, which is used by fan-created material. As such, those pregens are highly unlikely to be official, or suitable to be used in a PFS-sanctioned session. I certainly wouldn't allow them.

[Paz]

Balgin wrote:

...bringing the party up to eight.

One more thing, which is slightly tangential to the thread: PFS tables have a recommended maximum of 6 players, and a hard limit of 7 players.

[Bardach]

Anyone know where to find a copy of Jason's two - links do not work anymore

[FLite]

This page seems to have them

[Wolfspirit]

Holy Thread Necro Batman!

As an aside, it should be noted that the two "extra" goblin PCs can have a considerable power advantage over their official brethren. Stumpbiter in particular can easily steal the show while raging.

[DougSeay]

One of the silliest sessions I've ever seen involved everyone creating a goblin that would have been PFS legal except for the lack of the official goblin boon. That and "PVP is legal, always non-lethal and heals at the end of the encounter" meant for one fun WBG! I especially liked the goblin barbarian that took a nap after raging because he was tired, even if combat was still going on.

[FLite]

Hmm... Not sure that run sounds kosher. But since there are no consequences for success of failure, I don't really think anyone cares.