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michaelane wrote:
Check out the final FAQ (last thing at the bottom of the page). I'd cut and paste it here, but I'm on a tablet and can't grab the text. 4-6 characters, levels 8-11, set in Razor Coast, but not related to the AP, full-color, 3 maps, part of it is set in a whale. Estimated at 28pp for Swords and Wizardry and 36pp for Pathfinder.

D'oh! Next time I'll make sure to check the FAQ first. :D

I'll see what the stretch goals bring to the table as far as that adventure is concerned, but as it is at this point, I don't think it's worth bumping my pledge $140.

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jwood314 wrote:

I really would like to take a cruise, but would probably get divorced!

Just take your wife with you!

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brvheart wrote:
The Players Guide sounds good, but hopefully the pregens are better than the 15 point buys that were in RA. Some of us run heroic campaigns.

Those were actually PCs from the former campaign. 3D6 rolls. Included for nostalgia. Not every part of every adventure is going to fit every customer. Otherwise, we'd all be playing some sort of grey, lifeless duplicate.

We do hope there is enough to make everyone take a look though!

SG


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GeraintElberion wrote:
Mir wrote:

Frog Gods .. International Shipping thought

Right now I think my total order value will be 130$ (or 150$ if shipping is included) customs starts hitting at about 120$ but.... at least in Korea customs does not charge for books (last I knew). I'm hoping you can label this as books as that is all I will be getting. When I pledge (I'm being lazy I'll get to it I promise!) I'll put a note in the comment field as well.

Does customs work this way for books anywhere else or is it a South Korea thing. I wondered if it would make a difference for others as well which is why I'm mentioning it here rather than just directly to them.

Thanks again for being great about the questions!

It works that way in the UK as well.

If I just get books from the KS, it would be incredibly helpful for the shipping to be labelled as "[X] books".

If it truly is just the books than we can mark it as so. The minute we add the mini or ships, etc we have to label it correctly. We cannot lie to customs as it is a very serious offense. However we will make sure the pledges with only books are labeled that way.

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Skeeter Green wrote:
Those were actually PCs from the former campaign. 3D6 rolls. Included for nostalgia. Not every part of every adventure is going to fit every customer. Otherwise, we'd all be playing some sort of grey, lifeless duplicate.

But think of the sales if it appealed to everybody! :P

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
Skeeter Green wrote:
Those were actually PCs from the former campaign. 3D6 rolls. Included for nostalgia. Not every part of every adventure is going to fit every customer. Otherwise, we'd all be playing some sort of grey, lifeless duplicate.
But think of the sales if it appealed to everybody! :P

...and the minute you know how to make everyone happy in this industry, Ill buy your first product.. lol

We have to pick and choose, thats why some companies that just make me shake my head are still doing business. Its the spice of life, yes?!

SG

:-)

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Well, you did suggest a product that suited everyone. If it were possible, everyone would buy it and sales would be astronomical.

But then, in the real world such a product will be unappealing to everyone and have horrible sales. :) Hence my facetious post.


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bigkilla wrote:

Is there any chance of adding any no toys pledge levels/ I just cannot see myself paying money for the toy ships.

Like possibly a 425-450$ level the same as the 500$ level minus the 3 ships and mini.

425$ Buccaneer no toys: Both Pathfinder and Swords & Wizardry Signed & Numbered Hardcover Copies of Razor Coast w/ PDF, 2 Player's Guide w/ PDF, 2 pads of Character Sheets, both PF & SW EXCLUSIVE bonus modules by Casey Christofferson.

225$ Swashbuckler SW of Pathfinder no Mini: Swords & Wizardry or Pathfinder Signed & Numbered Hardcover Copies of Razor Coast w/ PDF, print Player's Guide w/ PDF, EXCLUSIVE bonus module by Casey Christofferson.

I am 100% on for this sort of pledge still, especially when you consider the shipping and labelling
Blonde Frog wrote:
If it truly is just the books than we can mark it as so. The minute we add the mini or ships, etc we have to label it correctly. We cannot lie to customs as it is a very serious offense. However we will make sure the pledges with only books are labeled that way.

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TriOmegaZero wrote:

Well, you did suggest a product that suited everyone. If it were possible, everyone would buy it and sales would be astronomical.

But then, in the real world such a product will be unappealing to everyone and have horrible sales. :) Hence my facetious post.

But it is an interesting concept; if something is so vanilla, everyone liked it, would it be worth it?

SG

Wowo way too esoterical for me this week.

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Oops - I misspoke earlier. I said the Players Guide is hardcover. That was wrong. It's softcover and hardcover is a stretch goal I wasnt supposed to talk about.
Sorry bout that.

I think the Frog God will stick me in the fridge for a snack later.


Haha the good ship/scurvy scow "KSS Razor Coast" is leaking like a sieve! She'll sink at this rate


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mach1.9pants wrote:
bigkilla wrote:

Is there any chance of adding any no toys pledge levels/ I just cannot see myself paying money for the toy ships.

Like possibly a 425-450$ level the same as the 500$ level minus the 3 ships and mini.

425$ Buccaneer no toys: Both Pathfinder and Swords & Wizardry Signed & Numbered Hardcover Copies of Razor Coast w/ PDF, 2 Player's Guide w/ PDF, 2 pads of Character Sheets, both PF & SW EXCLUSIVE bonus modules by Casey Christofferson.

225$ Swashbuckler SW of Pathfinder no Mini: Swords & Wizardry or Pathfinder Signed & Numbered Hardcover Copies of Razor Coast w/ PDF, print Player's Guide w/ PDF, EXCLUSIVE bonus module by Casey Christofferson.

I am 100% on for this sort of pledge still, especially when you consider the shipping and labelling
Blonde Frog wrote:
If it truly is just the books than we can mark it as so. The minute we add the mini or ships, etc we have to label it correctly. We cannot lie to customs as it is a very serious offense. However we will make sure the pledges with only books are labeled that way.

Granted. See new pledge levels


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The thing that's causing me to not feel as good about this Kickstarter as others is that I'm concerned that I'm pledging $150 for 2 books + PDFs, which are likely to cost much less once the project is funded. A 256-page and 64-page full color book from Paizo might (at most) cost $70 together.

Yes, the books I'm pledging for are signed and numbered, but I'm fearful I'm going to have buyers remorse once they are available at a lower price to the public.

It would be nice if:

a. The bonus adventure is included at the $150 level; or
b. There is an option to get both books + PDFs unsigned at a lower price point with an option to add the exclusive adventure.

I really don't like the idea of the exclusive adventure costing another $100.


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Louis Agresta wrote:

Oops - I misspoke earlier. I said the Players Guide is hardcover. That was wrong. It's softcover and hardcover is a stretch goal I wasnt supposed to talk about.

Sorry bout that.

What are some other goals you're not supposed to talk about?

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Jeff Erwin wrote:
silverhair2008 wrote:
Louis, the Frig God would just put you in freeze mode until the Frog God wanted to have you for Dinner.
I think Frig(g) is a goddess, not a god...

Well, considering the prominence of the Norse Gods in the Frog/Necromancer Pantheon, I suspect she's already a backer, anyway.

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Frigg

Her name means "beloved one." Other spellings of this Goddesses name include Frea, Fija, Friia, Frig and Friggja.

And although it looks like it, Freya/Freyja is still a separate Goddess. But considering their Areas of Influence cross-over, I'm guessing that they were, at one time, the same Goddess.

Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games

Frigg says, "Get on board with the Frog God KS. They promised me a guest appearance in an upcoming adventure!"

Seriously though, hop on board the Razor Coast train. We'd love to make this adventure happen, but it's got to make goal in order to cover all the costs and prior commitments and we've got a long way to go. Nick's writing is his typical brilliance and I'm pretty sure Lou sold some kidneys to make this happen, so pretty please. Razor Coast needs YOU! :-)


Blonde Frog wrote:
Granted. See new pledge levels

You guys rock :D

Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games

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A short preview from the gazetteer chapter of the book:

"An archipelago of fire-blackened stone and volcanic earth rises from the bloody waters of the Razor, a slash of islands like a jagged wound on the surface of the sea. This coast was once a sprawling kingdom, ruled by the mighty chiefs of the Tulita. With a wave of their hand, these chiefs commanded the fires of Pele’s fury and the winds of the fiercest storms. They danced darkly with old inscrutable gods. Their ancient powers now wane, and a new mandate has come to their home. Foreign ships of wood and canvas prowl the Razor, shedding the blood of the oldest gods with cruel steel harpoons and peeling back their sacred flesh with hook and blade.

Old enemies rise from the deep and even more ancient gods stir from their slumber to lust for blood once more. Meanwhile, Pele, ever fickle, fumes over the invasion of her children’s home, threatening a deluge of magma and fiery death at any moment.

The Razor Coast keeps the secrets of thousands of souls, all gone to the depths, bathed in god-fire, or torn apart by unwholesome things in the night. Naturalists plying the waves strive their best to catalogue the thousands of monstrous oddities lurking in her bosom, and cartographers descend on her treacherous waters every year to coax her curves and secrets onto parchment. Even so, hundreds of islands remain uncharted on the Razor’s surface, and the horrors inhabited by them are better kept from the world.
Here follows all I can share.
- Malza Trintos, naturalist and explorer of the Razor Coast"

As has been mentioned, this is WAY more than just an adventure. This is a whole campaign setting complete with players guide, it's own character sheets, and a whole host of additional adventures and materials available as bonus goals (oops wasn't supposed to say that yet). Plus departing from prior FGG releases of resurrected projects (i.e Slumbering Tsar, Black Monastery, etc.), this one is in COLOR. Why? Well, a few years back Nick went and hired a bunch of folks like Wayne Reynolds to make a bunch of color illustrations and maps. They've already been made, but they make the book much more expensive to produce, especially when you can't make huge print runs like a Paizo or WotC can. So, yeah, the price is steep for sure, but this is a whole treasure chest full of all kinds of awesome that I think will be worth your while and that is going to have an extremely limited rpint run. FGG has committed to not putting out bad adventure products, and this one (with Nick Logue doing principal writing there can really be no doubt) will certainly not let you down.

But we've got to have you on board to make it work. Even if you signed on for the original back in 2008 like me, if we can't make goal we can't produce those either. This was a massive undertaking to get the stars all aligned to make this thing possible. I know because I watched everybody try it--such has been the clamor for RC to see print. FGG has been given the opportunity to make a go of it, so we want to do it right, but pledges have slowed WAY down after only 24 hours which is frankly a little scary to us. A lot of resources have already been put towards this in additional writing, art, etc. (not to mention the Herculean tasks Lou has undertaken in organizing and making the product a go), but we've still got printer bills and a thousand other things looming over us that will force us to eat the investments and cancel if we can't hit that goal. So we're definitely looking at you guys if you are thinking of coming aboard to give us a shot, and for everyone that's following it to let their friends know. We're not a big company and we need the pledges to make this happen.

Anyway, I had seen some banter about the prices (which are high, I admit) so I wanted to come in and give some perspective so they make more sense plus put in a little bit of rah rah for the project.

So thanks to everyone that has pledged or is going to or is even rooting for RC to make. We appreciate it!!!!

Greg - one of many developers for Razor Coast

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I never stopped believing. :)

You guys had me from the first Indulgences that were released.

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Greg said something up there that I do want to touch on.

"We're not a big company."

And seriously, we aren't. When you open up Rappan Athuk and you see "Frog God Games is" and a list of credits. That's it. There are no more behind-the-scenes folks other than the freelancers.

It's just Bill, Greg, Matt, Rachel, Chuck, and Skeeter working to get this product out to you. You can add Lou for Razor Coast as well, he's got a lot of skin in this project.

I only say this to re-iterate that we are just like you, only we're getting books and entertainment out to you because we love what we do and we love this industry. We aren't out to get one over on you. Most of the time it's exactly the opposite, truth be told.

Thanks to our supporters. You guys are fantastic.


Thanks again for the books only pledges, hopefully I will be able to bump it up to the 425 one before the end. Save save save, who needs to eat, especially as I have eaten enough over XMas to last a few months!


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Is the staff position of Mr Wolf the same as in Pulp Fiction, and do I really want the answer to that question?

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I got to name Skeeter this book. When we fund you'll get to see!

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Mikaze wrote:

I never stopped believing. :)

You guys had me from the first Indulgences that were released.

Tremendous thanks to you Mikaze and all the other pledgers out there in the vast cyber-wilderness.

This project nearly killed me. And even after that, I am overjoyed beyond reason that it has this amazing opportunity to see the light of day.

I was just re-reading the new manuscript that so many other hands have poured so much insidious evil into as well, and I know this book will blow people's minds.

There aren't enough good things I could say about Lou and Greg for getting this monstrous tome on the path towards availability, but I'll pick this one achievement to tout:

Lou and the good folks at FGG have taken this baby and really gone the distance. Lou's rewrite of the original has even succeeded where I started to fall apart - realizing the goal of a truly customizable campaign.

Back in the heady days of Sinister's conception, I was out to do something truly different - create a campaign sourcebook that left the direction and outcomes of the adventure firmly in the hands of the GM and the players - not in the hands of the writer.

I wove the dark setting of Razor Coast, populated it with ghastly evils, and coaxed plots of the direst cruelty from twisted and inscrutable foes. But one of the places this manuscript tore at me (and the chief reason it wallowed so long) was execution of that prime goal: Putting the adventure firmly in YOUR hands.

Lou has solved it. I think it nearly killed him too, but he has tied together all the maddening spiraling plots of RC into a web of adventure unlike anything I've seen in a gaming product before. Its easy to use, understand and make your own. He lets you, the GM, and your players make this product your total b~#**. It dances to your tune. This was my darkest dream for RC, and Lou has delivered.

I think people are really going to be excited by this monstrosity.

Oh, and apologies for the over-produced nature of the book. It is beautiful though - absolutely beautiful. All that art really makes it sing.

Thanks again to all you mighty backers. Look forward to hearing YOUR adventures up and down the Razor. I'm betting no two groups will do it quite the same, thanks to Lou's alchemy.

Its late. Dajobas is calling to me. I owe him blood. Hell, I owe many of you more than blood. G'night for now all. Happy New Year!

May 2013 be filled with razored maws and crushing dooms. With blood, with fire, with storms. With phantom fleets and fins amongst the waves. With thunder and cannonade. With whimpers, with hushed and hurried final prayers.

Ride the waves, me hearties. Fear the fin, me lads. May the kraken slumber as you journey...lest he drag you to Quell's eternal embrace.

Pathfinder Lead Developer, Frog God Games

Feros wrote:
Is the staff position of Mr Wolf the same as in Pulp Fiction, and do I really want the answer to that question?

Of course. ;-)

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Feros wrote:
Is the staff position of Mr Wolf the same as in Pulp Fiction, and do I really want the answer to that question?

...and, no you don't.


Ok, one of our group pledged at the $300 level. He is buying it for the group so count us in.

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brvheart wrote:
Ok, one of our group pledged at the $300 level. He is buying it for the group so count us in.

Excellent. More chum for Dajobas! ;-)


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The only sad thing about this kickstarter is that my favorite sex-beast-of-a-man, Richard Pett, didn't write it.

If he did, I'd LOOOOVE to see his stretch goal...or mine for that matter.

I would like to see a "Men of RPG Adventure Design" Beefcake Calender in the very near future on kickstarter. Pett should be December, wearing a Santa beard...and nothing else.

Greg Vaughn could be EVERY other month.


I've noticed that sales have slowed down and as an original buyer of the SA Razor Coast, I'm a little worried also. I bought in at the $30 level for the player's guide, but I could justify another $30-$40 worth of RC goodies if there was something additional in that price range. I think one of the problems with this Kickstarter is that there isn't much in the $60-$80 range which, I think, is a sweet spot for a lot of people (like myself). $150-$250 is just too steep for most people IMO.

I'll do my part and spread the word though!

Publisher, Dreamscarred Press

Sinvel Menter wrote:

I've noticed that sales have slowed down and as an original buyer of the SA Razor Coast, I'm a little worried also. I bought in at the $30 level for the player's guide, but I could justify another $30-$40 worth of RC goodies if there was something additional in that price range. I think one of the problems with this Kickstarter is that there isn't much in the $60-$80 range which, I think, is a sweet spot for a lot of people (like myself). $150-$250 is just too steep for most people IMO.

I'll do my part and spread the word though!

I wouldn't be too worried - this Kickstarter JUST went live this week and is already over 1/3 of the way there. With four weeks yet to go, and the word of mouth still building, I'd expect this to fully fund.

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Jezebel wrote:

The only sad thing about this kickstarter is that my favorite sex-beast-of-a-man, Richard Pett, didn't write it.

If he did, I'd LOOOOVE to see his stretch goal...or mine for that matter.

I would like to see a "Men of RPG Adventure Design" Beefcake Calender in the very near future on kickstarter. Pett should be December, wearing a Santa beard...and nothing else.

Greg Vaughn could be EVERY other month.

Hmmm...

Stretch goal? Piratical RPG writers, stripped to their striped buccaneering breeches, holystoning the deck, being lashed by comely corsair wenches/cabin boys? All thirteen months! All 387 days!

Whaddaya say?

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Greg A. Vaughan wrote:
Feros wrote:
Is the staff position of Mr Wolf the same as in Pulp Fiction, and do I really want the answer to that question?
...and, no you don't.

As the aforementioned Mr. Wolf, all I can say is I take care of problems as they crop up.

Vague enough to be legal?

SG

Catch me at a Con, buy me a drink, and Ill tell you stories of what "Mr. Wolf" actually does.

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Jeff Erwin wrote:
Jezebel wrote:

The only sad thing about this kickstarter is that my favorite sex-beast-of-a-man, Richard Pett, didn't write it.

If he did, I'd LOOOOVE to see his stretch goal...or mine for that matter.

I would like to see a "Men of RPG Adventure Design" Beefcake Calender in the very near future on kickstarter. Pett should be December, wearing a Santa beard...and nothing else.

Greg Vaughn could be EVERY other month.

Hmmm...

Stretch goal? Piratical RPG writers, stripped to their striped buccaneering breeches, holystoning the deck, being lashed by comely corsair wenches/cabin boys? All thirteen months! All 387 days!

Whaddaya say?

mmmmmmmmmmm...delicious.

Especially if the writers are all Greg Vaughn, and the comely corsair wenches are all Richard Pett. Now that is a vision.

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I see the Contributor tag next to your name, Jezzie. What did you write for Paizo again? Refresh me.

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As if you can talk, Mr. I LOVE SHARK GODS. Your pathetic ass (which I DO NOT want featured in the calender) hasn't written much lately.

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Touche.

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I'd complain about my 'talking to myself' shtick being stolen, but I get the feeling Nick has been crazy a lot longer than I have.

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GET BACK IN THE BOX.

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They really should NEVER let me have access to the internet.

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TOZ wrote:
I'd complain about my 'talking to myself' shtick being stolen, but I get the feeling Nick has been crazy a lot longer than I have.

Most likely. :-)

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*muffled indignant murmurs*

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Nicolas Logue wrote:
They really should NEVER let me have access to the internet.

But, then how would we be honored with your words of wisdom?! :D

Also, do you know if you'll be attending PaizoCon again? :D

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Justin Sluder wrote:
Nicolas Logue wrote:
They really should NEVER let me have access to the internet.

But, then how would we be honored with your words of wisdom?! :D

Also, do you know if you'll be attending PaizoCon again? :D

I enjoyed myself TREMENDOUSLY this year at PaizoCon. I'll be back. I might even make Gencon next year...gasp!


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Just because you are a character,.....doesn't mean you have any character.....


Old Man Whateley wrote:
Just because you are a character,.....doesn't mean you have any character.....

I resemble that remark!


I'm gone tell Mithter. Pett. He's my fwendth on th fathe bookth, and he'll bee hear 2 thow you guyth wath waht. Only on Engwish time; ith like 3 am where he ith.


Your in fer it now, you bathdidth!

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Dwayne Dibbley wrote:
Your in fer it now, you bathdidth!

Bring on Rikard Prett. Its been far far too long since we bandied wits. I use the term "wits" very loosely where Prett is concerned. ;-)

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