Fame needed for enchants that priced at a flat GP value?


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4/5

Do you need to have enough fame to purchase the entire weapon, fully enchanted when you add an enchant with a flat GP cost, or do you just need enough fame to buy the enchant.

For example, the Adaptable enchant costs 1,000gp. If I want to put it on a mighty composite longbow +3, will I need 9 fame for the 1,000gp enchant or 18 fame for the 3,600gp total value? (300 for the bow; 300 for Masterwork; 2,000 for +1; 1,000 for adaptive)

Grand Lodge 4/5 5/55/5 ***

You must qualify for the entire item, not just the enchant. You will need 18 fame for the whole 3,600gp value of the item.

Liberty's Edge 4/5 5/5

Akerlof wrote:
300 for the bow

A composite longbow with a +3 strength rating costs 400gp, so your total cost is 100gp too low.

The Exchange 5/5 RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

I agree with Bob's general point.

As I read the "adaptable" enhancement, you place it on a composite bow, and it matches the Strength rating of the wielder. As such, you wouldn't put it on a "+3 strength bow". You'd put it on a masterwork bow, and it would provide the +3 (or +5, or +1, as the case may be).

I haven't read any errata on that property, and if you had any evidence that I'm wrong, I'd be happy to find out.

Grand Lodge 4/5

Chris Mortika wrote:

I agree with Bob's general point.

As I read the "adaptable" enhancement, you place it on a composite bow, and it matches the Strength rating of the wielder. As such, you wouldn't put it on a "+3 strength bow". You'd put it on a masterwork bow, and it would provide the +3 (or +5, or +1, as the case may be).

I haven't read any errata on that property, and if you had any evidence that I'm wrong, I'd be happy to find out.

I don't see anything that says you can't add it to a bow with any strength rating, and, indeed, putting it, say, on a +3 Str rating bow means that, if you hit an Anti-Magic Field, it will still be a +3 Str bonus bow, even if it can't match your +4 Str with the bonus from the Strength belt... Which would be neutralized by the Anti-Magic Field also.

Indeed, my 12th level fighter is looking to see if he can come up with the money to add it to his primary longbow.

And, yes, he is probably also going to put it on his backup weapon.

Another benefit from it would be if you get Str damage, so you would take a penalty to use your longbow...

4/5

Thanks for the answers.

Paz wrote:
Akerlof wrote:
300 for the bow
A composite longbow with a +3 strength rating costs 400gp, so your total cost is 100gp too low.

Yeah, I realized I was off a couple minutes after I posted, but since it didn't affect the fame requirement, I didn't log back in to edit.

Chris Mortika wrote:


As I read the "adaptable" enhancement, you place it on a composite bow, and it matches the Strength rating of the wielder. As such, you wouldn't put it on a "+3 strength bow". You'd put it on a masterwork bow, and it would provide the +3 (or +5, or +1, as the case may be).

That's sort of the reason I'm asking. If I only needed the fame to buy 1,000gp, I could hold off getting a magical bow for a scenario or so and just go straight to +1 adaptive. But, since I need enough fame for a 3,300+gp bow, I might as well go ahead and get a +1 mighty composite (+3) bow now then upgrade it to adaptive later. I'll be using it for at least a half dozen scenarios before I can get adaptive, that's too long to forego the damage of the higher strength rated bow.

Sovereign Court 5/5

Just to throw a spanner in the works, I thought the last time I saw something here, the strength rating of a bow can't be changed after it is created. Does that mean that you would need to create the adaptable bow from the beginning?

4/5

Nope. Adaptable is magic. It's not changing the base, just the effective at time of use.

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