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Living under Obama's presidency


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Andoran

meatrace wrote:
Also, Colorado legalizes weeeeeeeeed!

Too bad that, if California and Oregon are any indication, Obama won't respect their decision and the DEA will still go after growers and vendors.

Andoran

Scott Betts wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well the recent storm shows why the Electoral College has some benefits. If we had gone straight by the popular vote, then it looks like Romney would have won.

Obama has the lead in the popular vote, with the west coast left to count. He won the electoral college and the popular vote, despite Sandy, Romney, voter disenfranchisement, etc.

The Republican party is, at the moment, in tatters.

Funny, they still control the body that had EVERY seat up for grabs.


houstonderek wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well the recent storm shows why the Electoral College has some benefits. If we had gone straight by the popular vote, then it looks like Romney would have won.

Obama has the lead in the popular vote, with the west coast left to count. He won the electoral college and the popular vote, despite Sandy, Romney, voter disenfranchisement, etc.

The Republican party is, at the moment, in tatters.

Funny, they still control the body that had EVERY seat up for grabs.

See Gerrymandering.


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So to sum up the night's results:

  • We reelected President Obama. He didn't even need Ohio.
  • Elizabeth Warren won.
  • Tammy Baldwin won.
  • Joe Donnelley won.
  • Claire McCaskill won.
  • Multiple states voted to legalize recreational marijuana.
  • Same-sex marriage was legalized by popular vote for the first time.
  • California voted to fund its schools and to fix Three Strikes.
  • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
  • Nate Silver correctly predicted every state's vote - 50 out of 50 right.

It was a good night to be a Democrat.


Lord Dice wrote:
meatrace wrote:
Also, Colorado legalizes weeeeeeeeed!

Seriously?!

Okay, I'm building a new Manse Dice in Colorado right now. Doodlebug, there's plenty of room in the goblin kennels. The accommodations suck, but legal weed for all goblins!

Thank you for the kind invitation, plutocrat, but no.

Finding that post where I called for the shovel-beating of HMO CEOs and politicians has made me nostalgic for Citizen Duck threads, so, please, bear with me.

[bubble bubble bubble]


Scott Betts wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
pres man wrote:
Well the recent storm shows why the Electoral College has some benefits. If we had gone straight by the popular vote, then it looks like Romney would have won.

Obama has the lead in the popular vote, with the west coast left to count. He won the electoral college and the popular vote, despite Sandy, Romney, voter disenfranchisement, etc.

The Republican party is, at the moment, in tatters.

It's all because they didn't nominate a true conservative. Next time it'll be Santorum all around!!!
I look forward to seeing Santorum smeared all over the airwaves in 2016.

I hate to favorite a Citizen Betts post, but Savage Love-loyalty trumps petty ideological differences.


Scott Betts wrote:
  • Joe Donnelly won.
  • Claire McCaskill won.
  • These I were honestly happy to see. Not that I have any great love for the people that won, but their opponents made such a horrible showing of themselves, that they needed to be beaten down (figuratively speaking of course).

    Scott Betts wrote:
  • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
  • I hadn't heard anything about this. Of course the vote was non-binding, but still it is great news. I think it would be wonderful to see Puerto Rico to be the 51st state. Let's add a new star!


    thejeff wrote:

    Well, it's not the president could actually read his own email. Of course he has people to filter it for him. I mean literally he probably gets more email and mail than he could get through if he did nothing else.

    At best yellowdingo's email would get sent to the relevant agency, where it would promptly be dumped as crackpot.

    I mean, seriously enough profit from windfarms to pay out $30K to each citizen? Back of the envelope calculation: US population ~300million *30K = $9 trillion
    I haven't found hard numbers, but that seems to be much higher than the current total revenue of the whole energy sector, much less it's profits. So that's ignoring the cost of building and maintaining those windfarms.
    It's nonsense.

    I have an inordinate fondness for you, Comrade Jeff, but every time you seriously analyze one of Comrade Dingo's ideas--even for pedagogic reasons--I lose a little respect.

    Also, stay away from his plan to free Iranian women!

    Andoran

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    Scott Betts wrote:

    So to sum up the night's results:

    • We reelected President Obama. He didn't even need Ohio.
    • Elizabeth Warren won.
    • Tammy Baldwin won.
    • Joe Donnelley won.
    • Claire McCaskill won.
    • Multiple states voted to legalize recreational marijuana.
    • Same-sex marriage was legalized by popular vote for the first time.
    • California voted to fund its schools and to fix Three Strikes.
    • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
    • Nate Silver correctly predicted every state's vote - 50 out of 50 right.

    It was a good night to be a Democrat.

    Other than Elizabeth Warren (I can't excuse lying about your heritage to gain advantage - and, stop, the Cherokee Nation already did the research and called her out as a liar), and the last item (who cares?) I can agree with the rest of this being a good thing. Yes, Obama will be marginally better than Romney, but it won't make any "liberal" start protesting illegal wars or the erosion of the Bill of Rights that hasn't already been doing so. So, I guess that's a very grudgingly given agreement. With many asterisks.


    Comrade Anklebiter wrote:

    I have an inordinate fondness for you, Comrade Jeff, but every time you seriously analyze one of Comrade Dingo's ideas--even for pedagogic reasons--I lose a little respect.

    Also, stay away from his plan to free Iranian women!

    Sometimes they just nag at me until I have to say something.


    I think it is every Paizonian's inalienable right to discover for his or her self that Comrade Dingo is, shall we say, unique.

    It's an established rite of passage.


    houstonderek wrote:
    Other than Elizabeth Warren (I can't excuse lying about your heritage to gain advantage - and, stop, the Cherokee Nation already did the research and called her out as a liar),

    I can't say that I spent a lot of time paying any attention to the controversy, but it seemed like a huge non-issue. She retold stories her mother had told her and one time her boss at Harvard included her as a feather in their cap at some diversity celebration or whatnot.*

    My dislike of Ms. Warren originated when my local union had to call the International and hold up her campaign contribution money to get her to visit the picket lines of workers striking a building materials company in Norwood.

    Once she came, however, everything was papered over, all hugs and kisses, she got the local's endorsement, five full-time staffers, her money, etc., etc. It makes me ill.

    Break with the Democrats!

    Vive le Galt!

    *I could be wrong, I didn't really care enough to dig deeper.


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    Scott Betts wrote:

    So to sum up the night's results:

    • We reelected President Obama. He didn't even need Ohio.
    • Elizabeth Warren won.
    • Tammy Baldwin won.
    • Joe Donnelley won.
    • Claire McCaskill won.
    • Multiple states voted to legalize recreational marijuana.
    • Same-sex marriage was legalized by popular vote for the first time.
    • California voted to fund its schools and to fix Three Strikes.
    • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
    • Nate Silver correctly predicted every state's vote - 50 out of 50 right.

    It was a good night to be a Democrat.

    All wonderful, but this is also especially sweet.

    Rob "rape is a gift from God" Mourdock and Todd "it's not rape if you get pregnant" Akin LOST. Here's to hoping those a&#%@~@s retire to the wingnut welfare circuit and are never at risk to win office again. And also that they're never in positions of power over women.


    Samnell wrote:
    Rob "rape is a gift from God" Mourdock and Todd "it's not rape if you get pregnant" Akin LOST. Here's to hoping those a&$+&&@s retire to the wingnut welfare circuit and are never at risk to win office again. And also that they're never in positions of power over women.

    I'll toke to that.

    Qadira

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    Scott Betts wrote:


  • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
  • Dang it...I was hoping the Puerto Rico Independence movement would Have more sway than that.


    Me, too.

    Andoran

    Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
    houstonderek wrote:
    Other than Elizabeth Warren (I can't excuse lying about your heritage to gain advantage - and, stop, the Cherokee Nation already did the research and called her out as a liar),

    I can't say that I spent a lot of time paying any attention to the controversy, but it seemed like a huge non-issue. She retold stories her mother had told her and one time her boss at Harvard included her as a feather in their cap at some diversity celebration or whatnot.*

    My dislike of Ms. Warren originated when my local union had to call the International and hold up her campaign contribution money to get her to visit the picket lines of workers striking a building materials company in Norwood.

    Once she came, however, everything was papered over, all hugs and kisses, she got the local's endorsement, five full-time staffers, her money, etc., etc. It makes me ill.

    Break with the Democrats!

    Vive le Galt!

    *I could be wrong, I didn't really care enough to dig deeper.

    No, if it were just doing the typical "everyone is a Cherokee" BS people do, I wouldn't care. But she used her "heritage" to get scholarships and preferential treatment in hiring and whatnot. THAT'S BS. And, since I actually AM a documented member of the Seneca tribe, it's doubly offensive to me. Especially since I never used my heritage as such.


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    Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
    houstonderek wrote:
    Other than Elizabeth Warren (I can't excuse lying about your heritage to gain advantage - and, stop, the Cherokee Nation already did the research and called her out as a liar),
    I can't say that I spent a lot of time paying any attention to the controversy, but it seemed like a huge non-issue. She retold stories her mother had told her and one time her boss at Harvard included her as a feather in their cap at some diversity celebration or whatnot.*

    That's about it. Warren put herself down as Cherokee- and Delaware-descended in a legal social directory in hopes of networking with other people of similar ancestry. Reagan's own solicitor-general was on her hiring committee at Harvard and came out to say her heritage didn't enter into their recommendation to hire.


    houstonderek wrote:


    No, if it were just doing the typical "everyone is a Cherokee" BS people do, I wouldn't care. But she used her "heritage" to get scholarships and preferential treatment in hiring and whatnot. THAT'S BS. And, since I actually AM a documented member of the Seneca tribe, it's doubly offensive to me. Especially since I never used my heritage as such.

    Evidence for that? As far as I've heard, from any source other than Scott Brown, her "heritage" appeared in a law school directory and at some point Harvard was aware of it, but no evidence that she tried to get or that she got preferential treatment because of it.


    Hmm. I'm not convinced; I can't find any mention of scholarships in any article from a website that doesn't scream "To the Right of Fox News!"

    I will link this, though, even though it's old, because A) it's from Boston's Murdoch paper; and B) it was written by a hot chick I went to college with.

    Interestingly, Ms. Chabot described herself as a Menshevik back in the day...


    Well, I didn't mean to pigpile--but at least I have a link to a girl I (unsuccesfully) tried to get in bed!

    Goblins do it (sometimes) in the street!

    Grand Lodge

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    Scott Betts wrote:

    So to sum up the night's results:

    • We reelected President Obama. He didn't even need Ohio.
    • Elizabeth Warren won.
    • Tammy Baldwin won.
    • Joe Donnelley won.
    • Claire McCaskill won.
    • Multiple states voted to legalize recreational marijuana.
    • Same-sex marriage was legalized by popular vote for the first time.
    • California voted to fund its schools and to fix Three Strikes.
    • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
    • Nate Silver correctly predicted every state's vote - 50 out of 50 right.

    It was a good night to be a Democrat.

  • New Jersey approved first major bond issue for Higher Education in at least a decade.
  • Bob Menendez was re-elected to the Senate.


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    Samnell wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:

    So to sum up the night's results:

    • We reelected President Obama. He didn't even need Ohio.
    • Elizabeth Warren won.
    • Tammy Baldwin won.
    • Joe Donnelley won.
    • Claire McCaskill won.
    • Multiple states voted to legalize recreational marijuana.
    • Same-sex marriage was legalized by popular vote for the first time.
    • California voted to fund its schools and to fix Three Strikes.
    • Puerto Rico voted to move forward with the process of becoming the country's 51st state.
    • Nate Silver correctly predicted every state's vote - 50 out of 50 right.

    It was a good night to be a Democrat.

    All wonderful, but this is also especially sweet.

    Rob "rape is a gift from God" Mourdock and Todd "it's not rape if you get pregnant" Akin LOST. Here's to hoping those a%*!*~%s retire to the wingnut welfare circuit and are never at risk to win office again. And also that they're never in positions of power over women.

    This happened to a number of conservative politicians who apparently had sympathetic views to Akin and Mourdock.


    thejeff wrote:


    See Gerrymandering.

    Yeah, really. So, has anyone done a quick look at which congressional seats were picked up compared to state legislature party control and recent issues with redistricting?

    I know that's the issue here. I'm pretty amazed that Paul Ryan was reelected. I don't even think he ran ads for reelection, he just rode on the coattails of his VP bid. And it shocks me because the two biggest urban areas in his district are Janesville and Racine. Racine tends to be pretty democratic, and has the highest concentration of african american population in Wisconsin. Janesville is a s*!+hole and a toss-up, but people there really hated his politicizing of the GM plant closing. I know people still out of work from that, and they know damn well it wasn't Obama's fault.


    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Obama has snaked his way into another win, now we face darkened cursed skies for 1,000 miserable years.
    Illusions of snaking aside, Obama maintaining the Presidency for four years is hardly KYD territory.

    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.


    meatrace wrote:
    thejeff wrote:


    See Gerrymandering.

    Yeah, really. So, has anyone done a quick look at which congressional seats were picked up compared to state legislature party control and recent issues with redistricting?

    I know that's the issue here. I'm pretty amazed that Paul Ryan was reelected. I don't even think he ran ads for reelection, he just rode on the coattails of his VP bid. And it shocks me because the two biggest urban areas in his district are Janesville and Racine. Racine tends to be pretty democratic, and has the highest concentration of african american population in Wisconsin. Janesville is a s%%+hole and a toss-up, but people there really hated his politicizing of the GM plant closing. I know people still out of work from that, and they know damn well it wasn't Obama's fault.

    I don't think he ran ads for his local race, but he did spend more time in Wisconsin and his home district than you might expect. And of course, the presidential campaigning will affect his race. It would have been a shock if he lost. Sweet and not impossible, but a shock.

    Grand Lodge

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    thejeff wrote:
    meatrace wrote:
    thejeff wrote:


    See Gerrymandering.

    Yeah, really. So, has anyone done a quick look at which congressional seats were picked up compared to state legislature party control and recent issues with redistricting?

    I know that's the issue here. I'm pretty amazed that Paul Ryan was reelected. I don't even think he ran ads for reelection, he just rode on the coattails of his VP bid. And it shocks me because the two biggest urban areas in his district are Janesville and Racine. Racine tends to be pretty democratic, and has the highest concentration of african american population in Wisconsin. Janesville is a s%%+hole and a toss-up, but people there really hated his politicizing of the GM plant closing. I know people still out of work from that, and they know damn well it wasn't Obama's fault.

    I don't think he ran ads for his local race, but he did spend more time in Wisconsin and his home district than you might expect. And of course, the presidential campaigning will affect his race. It would have been a shock if he lost. Sweet and not impossible, but a shock.

    Interestingly enough as far back as a couple of weeks ago, the story was going out that Paul Ryan was being advised to quite Congress so that he could avoid having his name attached to Congressional decisions that may come to haunt him for his run in 2016 in the presumed event of a Romney loss. It was suggested that he spend the time teaching instead.

    Ryan would not be the first VP candidate to hedge his bets. During his tenure on the ill-fated Gore ticket, Joe Lieberman campaigned for and won re-election to his seat on the Hill as well.


    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Obama has snaked his way into another win, now we face darkened cursed skies for 1,000 miserable years.
    Illusions of snaking aside, Obama maintaining the Presidency for four years is hardly KYD territory.
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.

    Ah, I thought I tasted Republican.

    Andoran

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    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Obama has snaked his way into another win, now we face darkened cursed skies for 1,000 miserable years.
    Illusions of snaking aside, Obama maintaining the Presidency for four years is hardly KYD territory.
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.
    Ah, I thought I tasted Republican.

    Scott, licking other posters to guess at their political leanings is kinda creepy.


    Krensky wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Obama has snaked his way into another win, now we face darkened cursed skies for 1,000 miserable years.
    Illusions of snaking aside, Obama maintaining the Presidency for four years is hardly KYD territory.
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.
    Ah, I thought I tasted Republican.
    Scott, licking other posters to guess at their political leanings is kinda creepy.

    You take that back! What I do isn't guesswork - it's science.

    Andoran

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    Scott Betts wrote:
    Krensky wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Obama has snaked his way into another win, now we face darkened cursed skies for 1,000 miserable years.
    Illusions of snaking aside, Obama maintaining the Presidency for four years is hardly KYD territory.
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.
    Ah, I thought I tasted Republican.
    Scott, licking other posters to guess at their political leanings is kinda creepy.
    You take that back! What I do isn't guesswork - it's science.

    Creepy science. Science that can't be sanitary.


    Some don't even require licks!
    You can smell Anklebiter's political persuasion through the walls.


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    [bubble bubble bubble]

    Andoran

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    * Sniff..

    Libertarian?

    * Hides.


    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.

    Everyone who didn't vote your way is a robot? Classy.


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    bugleyman wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.
    Everyone who didn't vote your way is a robot? Classy.

    I'm referring to those who voted without even looking at the issues. Yes Obama has a high charisma score, but just because you like him should not be the sole reason to vote like millions did. There is issues and millions of people out there are completely clueless about them. By the way I noticed the stock market dropped today, not good news.


    SuperSlayer wrote:
    By the way I noticed the stock market dropped today, not good news.

    As someone with a retirement horizon of 20+ years, day-to-day (or even year-to-year) fluctuations don't really matter to me. Dollar cost averaging FTW.

    Probably screwed some day traders though.


    SuperSlayer wrote:


    I'm referring to those who voted without even looking at the issues.

    Oh, good. You're only referring to a fictitious personage that exists in your imagination. A man, made of straw if you will.


    meatrace wrote:
    Oh, good. You're only referring to a fictitious personage that exists in your imagination. A man, made of straw if you will.

    I suppose that some wailing and gnashing of teeth is to be expected.


    SuperSlayer wrote:
    I'm referring to those who voted without even looking at the issues.

    No, SuperSlayer, you were referring to me.

    And I can absolutely guarantee you that I have spent a whole lot longer looking at the issues than you have.

    Your insults are empty, and you're not particularly good at defending them.

    Icyshadow, that goes for you, too. It never occurred to you that haphazardly clicking "favorite" on a post that talks about making superficial decisions without due consideration would be ironic, hm?


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    meatrace wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:


    I'm referring to those who voted without even looking at the issues.
    Oh, good. You're only referring to a fictitious personage that exists in your imagination. A man, made of straw if you will.

    Additionally, the very notion that others did, in fact, look at the issues but reached a different conclusion must be, in the words of Ralph Wiggum, unpossible.


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    SuperSlayer wrote:
    bugleyman wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.
    Everyone who didn't vote your way is a robot? Classy.
    I'm referring to those who voted without even looking at the issues. Yes Obama has a high charisma score, but just because you like him should not be the sole reason to vote like millions did. There is issues and millions of people out there are completely clueless about them. By the way I noticed the stock market dropped today, not good news.

    Perhaps the stock market dropped because the Republicans still hold a majority in the House of Representatives, setting us up for more obstructionism including brinksmanship over the fiscal cliff that is pending.

    Or perhaps it the collective result of thousands of people making decisions for their own reasons based on their personal circumstances, the net result of which is sales of stocks at prices lower than they were valued yesterday.

    Perhaps the several of the mere 30 companies that comprise the Dow Jones Industrial Index have other factors related to things other than the election resulting in a decline in stocks.

    Or, what I think is most likely, is perhaps using the New York Stock Exchange as any sort of indicator of the overall health of the economy is sheer folly and wrong-minded, especially since the value of the stocks is no longer based on anything remotely reflecting the value of the company they represent.


    Scott Betts wrote:
    I can absolutely guarantee you that I have spent a whole lot longer looking at the issues than you have.

    If that is the case, then you must be mindless!

    Obama won, some people are going to lash out. Not worth worrying about it.


    markofbane wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    bugleyman wrote:
    SuperSlayer wrote:
    Sorry to offend you Obamabot, but I was only quoting Chuck Norris and adding my own flavor to it.
    Everyone who didn't vote your way is a robot? Classy.
    I'm referring to those who voted without even looking at the issues. Yes Obama has a high charisma score, but just because you like him should not be the sole reason to vote like millions did. There is issues and millions of people out there are completely clueless about them. By the way I noticed the stock market dropped today, not good news.

    Perhaps the stock market dropped because the Republicans still hold a majority in the House of Representatives, setting us up for more obstructionism including brinksmanship over the fiscal cliff that is pending.

    Or perhaps it the collective result of thousands of people making decisions for their own reasons based on their personal circumstances, the net result of which is sales of stocks at prices lower than they were valued yesterday.

    Perhaps the several of the mere 30 companies that comprise the Dow Jones Industrial Index have other factors related to things other than the election resulting in a decline in stocks.

    Or, what I think is most likely, is perhaps using the New York Stock Exchange as any sort of indicator of the overall health of the economy is sheer folly and wrong-minded, especially since the value of the stocks is no longer based on anything remotely reflecting the value of the company they represent.

    Furthermore, if it is a reflection of the outcome of the election, it means that Wall Street traders are pretty terrible when it comes to making predictions. There were almost no surprises whatsoever in last night's results.


    bugleyman wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    I can absolutely guarantee you that I have spent a whole lot longer looking at the issues than you have.

    If that is the case, then you must be mindless!

    Obama won, some people are going to lash out. Not worth worrying about it.

    No, it's not, but it's really hard to resist the lure of Democratic schadenfreude.


    Scott Betts wrote:
    Furthermore, if it is a reflection of the outcome of the election, it means that Wall Street traders are pretty terrible when it comes to making predictions. There were almost no surprises whatsoever in last night's results.

    I was surprised at the margin of victory, actually, though that may narrow depending on which way Florida goes.

    Andoran

    bugleyman wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    I can absolutely guarantee you that I have spent a whole lot longer looking at the issues than you have.

    If that is the case, then you must be mindless!

    Obama won, some people are going to lash out. Not worth worrying about it.

    Oh, I would be upset either way. I don't get anything I want from either of them, frankly. And the pot issue is moot, the growers and suppliers are still under the gun from the DEA regardless of what personal users can do. And Obama has proven to not be a respecter of the will of the people on the issue, if the dramatic increase on raids of dispensaries and growers in Cali since he took office is any indication.


    houstonderek wrote:
    if the dramatic increase on raids of dispensaries and growers in Cali since he took office is any indication.

    Hopefully it isn't.


    bugleyman wrote:
    Scott Betts wrote:
    Furthermore, if it is a reflection of the outcome of the election, it means that Wall Street traders are pretty terrible when it comes to making predictions. There were almost no surprises whatsoever in last night's results.
    I was surprised at the margin of victory, actually, though that may narrow depending on which way Florida goes.

    Assuming no dramatic shifts in Florida (mind you, it's Florida, so that's not necessarily a safe assumption) Obama's EV total will be 332. If you go to FiveThirtyEight and scroll down to the Electoral Vote Distribution graph, you'll note that 332 electoral votes was the single most likely outcome, with an above-20% chance of occurring. So the EV split is actually exactly what was anticipated.

    In terms of popular vote, as it stands we're looking at 50.something% to 48.something%, which will probably end up pretty close to the 50.8% to 48.3% split that was forecasted. So that's not really a surprise either.

    For those who followed Nate Silver's forecasting and actually put some stock in it, last night was a lot like watching a play whose script you'd already read.

    Andoran

    bugleyman wrote:
    houstonderek wrote:
    if the dramatic increase on raids of dispensaries and growers in Cali since he took office is any indication.
    Hopefully it isn't.

    I tend to look at what people have done to predict their future actions. I hope beyond hope that Obama really is what people think and the first four years were just a show to get re-elected, but I'm not holding my breath.

    Though I will probably be holding my nose.

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