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Trapped in a bag of holding


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So you wake up to find yourself gagged, bound, as unseen hands force you inside a bag of holding. But ha ha, jokes on them, for various reasons of your own, you don't have to eat drink or breathe. So now that you know you're inside a bag of holding...how do you get out exactly?
Is there a floating door symbolizing the bags exit that you can open from the inside?
How would one go about getting out?
Is it mentioned anywhere in the rules?


Used to be that sharp objects could cut their way out from the inside.


Sharp objects still can! Now if they were smart captors, they probably stripped you of any weapons, but they didn't check to see if you needed to eat, drink, or sleep so maybe they missed a dagger or hat pin. There is no other RAW way to leave a bag of holding.

Taldor

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or cast Dispel Magic or Mage's Disjunction on it, suppressing it's magi ability, forcing it to expel it's contents.


I just realized how potent a capture device that could be. can you plane shift out of one? Teleport? It just seems like if they strip you naked and toss you in there, if your fingernails aren't sharp enough, you're stuck for good yeah?

Taldor

If they got you to fit in the 2ft-wide opening, I'd pretty much give them the win. Heck, if I could pull it off, I'd GIVE them a rapier in a sheathe, just to have the no-spellcraft fighter try to stab his way out. Knowing he just banished himself into a state of being "forever lost" would net me a good CE chuckle.


Yeah, the opening will prevent most Medium sized or larger creatures from having to worry about this... Unless you shrink them first that is!


I'll bet even a medium creature could be stuffed in if they were going headfirst (captors are usually less than gentle). :)

Andoran

A 2ft diameter hole (or hoop I suppose) would be pretty easy to get into unless your character were *very* chubby and/or pointy (armor spikes or some such).


closetgamer wrote:
Yeah, the opening will prevent most Medium sized or larger creatures from having to worry about this... Unless you shrink them first that is!

That hardly seems difficult - the description says the bag is 2 feet by 4 feet, so if the opening is 2 feet when it's flat, the circumference of the opening is 48 inches. Anyone with a size 48 waist or less will fit easily without any squeezing.

Taldor

RumpinRufus wrote:
closetgamer wrote:
Yeah, the opening will prevent most Medium sized or larger creatures from having to worry about this... Unless you shrink them first that is!
That hardly seems difficult - the description says the bag is 2 feet by 4 feet, so if the opening is 2 feet when it's flat, the circumference of the opening is 48 inches. Anyone with a size 48 waist or less will fit easily without any squeezing.

What about shoulders? The widest part of the body?


Hama wrote:

What about shoulders? The widest part of the body?

Maybe a little wider but probably shorter in the other dimension, so the circumferences are probably pretty close. Plus, the shoulders are easier to contort for stuffing purposes than the hips are.


zylphryx wrote:
or cast Dispel Magic or Mage's Disjunction on it, suppressing it's magi ability, forcing it to expel it's contents.

Most interpretations of the BoH make the stored items inaccessible when the bag is dispelled.

IMHO if dispelling on the inside of the bag causes a result different to dispelling the outside of the bag, it should cause the contents to be lost to Gods Know Where.


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When our group played the Rise of the Runelords campaign we used to stuff baddies into a Bag of Holding so we could bring them home and raise the morale of our castle guards by letting them kill the baddies for us. Pretty grim, I know, but it never got any less hilarious than it was e first time we did it.

Sczarni

This reminds me of that episode of knights of the dinner table where they had a entire campaign set within a bag of holding.


zylphryx wrote:
or cast Dispel Magic or Mage's Disjunction on it, suppressing it's magi ability, forcing it to expel it's contents.

Of course you can't do that, because your bound and gagged, so... it would have to be a silent, still dispel Magic, or a magical lineage, silent mage's disjunction to work.....


closetgamer wrote:
Yeah, the opening will prevent most Medium sized or larger creatures from having to worry about this... Unless you shrink them first that is!

Not really, All one needs to do is pulverise the body with a blunt object so that their bones are a fine dust, then it would be relatively easy to put them in BOH, or an enlarged mason jar for that matter.


Pathfinder Tales Subscriber

"If living creatures are placed within the bag, they can survive for up to 10 minutes, after which time they suffocate."


Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Hawkins, if they don't breathe they don't suffocate.


beej67 wrote:
Used to be that sharp objects could cut their way out from the inside.

Raw is pretty clear on this:

If a bag of holding is overloaded, or if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), the bag immediately ruptures and is ruined, and all contents are lost forever.

That is what i would call a negative outcome.

Being people placed inside is mentioned but no escape means I would say once you're in you're screwed without magic. Even them you're in an extra-dimensional space, you can only use spells that can put you back on the Prime (ie no dimension door).


lantzkev wrote:
This reminds me of that episode of knights of the dinner table where they had a entire campaign set within a bag of holding.

All gamers should read Knight of the Dinner Table. That series where they stuffed their henchmen in the portable hole and they built a castle, etc and would not let the payers have their hole back was greatness.

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