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Can I sign up as a group of one and corrupt my friends before the playtest starts?


Vic Wertz wrote:
Steve Geddes wrote:
We have a FedEx in south Australia. Is that something different (like not a "complete" service, or something)?
FedEx Office does printing as well as shipping. Does yours offer print service? I phoned FedEx to discuss this, and they said that they only covered the US and Canada, but it is certainly possible that I spoke to somebody who just didn't know...

Sadly, the person you spoke to did seem to know. The Australian branch told me the exact same thing. :(

Shadow Lodge

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Vic Wertz wrote:

Let your regional coordinator know the paizo.com forum name of the group lead, the number of players in the group, whether the group is committing to 2 chapters (10+ sessions) or 6 chapters (30+ sessions), and the email address of your chosen FedEx Office location.

To find the email address for your FedEx location, visit FedEx's locator. Under "Show Me These Types of Locations", check "FedEx Kinko's is now FedEx Office". Click "View details, directions & map" for the location of your choice, and just above the map, you'll see the location's email address, which looks something like "USA5152@FEDEX.COM".

Looks like I'm out. "No locations found for the type of locations and advanced search options selected within a 100 mile radius of the address or phone number entered" :(


You said, that you will expand the possibilities beyond FedEx if there aren't enough playtesters...
So should someone from Europe sign up already and hope that there aren't enough "American groups" which want to playtest, or will you announce as soon as it comes up that you won't get enough playtesters?

Because I really would like to playtest this (either solo or with a group of three, even if that would spoil RotRL for my group...).


My wife and I really enjoy deck building games like Thunderstone and Rune Age and also play adventure board games like Runebound and Talisman quite often, so this really appeals to me and will likely appeal to her as well. We have a lot of experience dissecting rules for these kinds of games and knowing what works and doesn't. And I have a deep love of Pathfinder and she's played a few games with me. So would it be perfectly fine for us to sign up as a 2 player group?

Also, the closest FedEx location is about an hour's drive away, which is totally doable (and would give us an excuse to go to a bigger city), but we have a Staples right here in town. Would it be possible to sign up for the playtest, reserve our spot, and wait to see if you'd be willing to print to Staples? Then if you end up getting enough people to get their cards through FedEx, just go ahead and use them instead? Does that make sense?

Anyway, as long as there is an opening for a 2 player group, I'd really like to be part of this either way. I'll just have to talk it over with my wife.

Edit: And one last thing. If we did sign up as a 2 player group, would it still be okay if we playtest a few three or four player games after we finish the obligated 10+ two player sessions? Then maybe provide some feedback on the differences between the group sizes?

Dark Archive

We do have Staples in Germany, we shop there more or less regularly. They do have a copy center to do digital printing.


I'd be interested in seeing more of what this is all about. Please let me know what I can do to get more info.

Thanks

Terry

Vic Wertz wrote:

Paizo is pleased to report that in just a few short weeks, we're expecting to begin the playtest for next year's Pathfinder Adventure Card Game (known to some of you by the code name "Project Swallowtail"). Because playtesting a card game isn't quite as simple as letting everybody download a PDF, it's not going to be quite as open as our RPG playtests have been, but if you'd like to get involved, read on to find out how that might be possible!

First, let me tell you a bit about the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game.

The Pathfinder Adventure Card Game is a cooperative game for 1 to 6 players designed by Mike Selinker and his team at Lone Shark Games, which Paizo intends to release at Gen Con 2013 (if not PaizoCon 2013).

Each player has a unique character comprised of a deck of cards and a set of stats. Roleplayers will find the stats very familiar—characters have classes such as fighter, wizard, and rogue; they have numbers that define their Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, etc.; they have skills and proficiencies.

As your player adventures, you'll improve your deck by acquiring new items, allies, spells, and weapons as you explore and overcome challenges; over time, you'll be customizing your deck to suit your own individual vision of your character.

The Pathfinder Adventure Game product offerings will begin with the Rise of the Runelords Base Set, a big box containing more than 400 cards including the "Burnt Offerings" Adventure Deck. Your party will explore locations such as the Sandpoint Cathedral, the Rusty Dragon, and the Glassworks; you'll meet helpful NPCs like Ameiko Kaijitsu or friendly Aldern Foxglove; you'll visit the Swallowtail Festival, delve into the Catacombs of Wrath, and invade Thistletop. You'll fight goblins, sinspawn, Warchief Ripnugget, and maybe even face the Sandpoint devil, and eventually, become the heroes of Sandpoint! The Base Set supports 1 to 4 players; a 110-card add-on deck will expand the number of players to 5 or 6, as well as adding more character...

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If we were to sign up for playtest what happens if we fall short in sessions? For example, we are a 30 session group and only complete 25 sessions, but we still report and contribute to the messageboard. Would there be a problem with that?

Scarab Sages

This is a very exciting project. Hope I am able to get into the playtest! I agree that this appears to be asking a lot from your playtesters but store credit and the chance to shape another paizo game is worth it to me. (of course, it helps to live in a major US city center with a ton of old school gamers!)


Sent a request to playtest. I live in Maine, so I'm quite a ways away from the nearest VC. However, the FedEx happens to be right next to my college, which should make pickup rather easy.

Extremely interested in this. I quite like TCG's that have that bit of flair that really lets you bond with your deck.

I assume character advancement is handled through restrictions in deckbuilding, allowing more options as you level?

Dark Archive

What is the process once we send the email? How long do we wait for a response before trying again? Will out VC get back in touch with us about how to proceed?

Just trying to make sure I understand the process

Aric

Lantern Lodge

so if i get this straight your giving us real cards (or cards with placeholder art and effects), which is what were paying money for and why your fedexing it? cause thats what its sounding like to me. also, game sounds alot like thunderstone and that has my interest piqued. anyways, letting my VC know and we'll see what happens.


LordxMugen wrote:
so if i get this straight your giving us real cards (or cards with placeholder art and effects), which is what were paying money for and why your fedexing it?...

I guess the reason is that this minimizes the chance that there are PDFs of the prototype game all over the internet in short time.

Grand Lodge

I know my VC has sent in my application to playtest; I just want to echo what someone else on this thread mentioned, namely that although I'm willing to travel to my nearest FedEx (nearly an hour's drive), if you do expand to include Staples, that would be much more convenient and I'd ask to be switched over. Thanks!


Is there anything I need to put in the e-mail other than FedEx e-mail, forum name, group lead, size of group, and preferred amount to playtest? Stuff like why I'd be a good person to have playtest this and that sort of stuff? I only ask because I sent my local VC an e-mail a few days ago and have yet to get a response.


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I fired off a PM to the local VC on Friday, but I haven't seen any replies.


Johnico wrote:
Is there anything I need to put in the e-mail other than FedEx e-mail, forum name, group lead, size of group, and preferred amount to playtest? Stuff like why I'd be a good person to have playtest this and that sort of stuff? I only ask because I sent my local VC an e-mail a few days ago and have yet to get a response.

I sent an email to the VL closest to me Saturday and got a response back Sunday saying he forwarded the request to Paizo. I didn't really give any extra information. It might just depend on the VC/VL how much communication you'll get back? Not sure how the process works since this is my first time trying something like this. Hope my group gets selected!


LordxMugen wrote:
so if i get this straight your giving us real cards (or cards with placeholder art and effects), which is what were paying money for and why your fedexing it? cause thats what its sounding like to me. also, game sounds alot like thunderstone and that has my interest piqued. anyways, letting my VC know and we'll see what happens.

actually, the way I understand it, is that they are having the fedex actually print out the cards. You aren't paying paizo, you are paying fedex.

I assume that's also why it has to be a fedex print shop, and not just any fedex.

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I'm in South Dakota and there is not a single Fedex Office/Kinkos or Staples within 100 miles of Rapid City. Does this mean I'm outta luck for the playtest?


This looks great - emailed Venture Captain Ryan Blomquist from Minnesota - I'm in Grand Forks North Dakota but I have a 5 man gaming group that would love to run the full 30 sessions - I hope I contacted the right fellow, if not please let me know!

This is exciting.


pluvia33 wrote:
Johnico wrote:
Is there anything I need to put in the e-mail other than FedEx e-mail, forum name, group lead, size of group, and preferred amount to playtest? Stuff like why I'd be a good person to have playtest this and that sort of stuff? I only ask because I sent my local VC an e-mail a few days ago and have yet to get a response.
I sent an email to the VL closest to me Saturday and got a response back Sunday saying he forwarded the request to Paizo. I didn't really give any extra information. It might just depend on the VC/VL how much communication you'll get back? Not sure how the process works since this is my first time trying something like this. Hope my group gets selected!

Don't mean to brag, but Vic just let me know that my 2-player group is in the playtest. (woo-hoo!) I don't know if he's doing all of the notifications now at once or if it's going to be in waves. Anyone else get confirmed for the playtest yet?

I'm really looking forward to this now.

Dark Archive

It´s great just to imagine this new card game. I have played ( as GM ) Runelords and i´d love to show the history to other people but it´s hard do give the same game.

Well, im Brazilian and i hope that i can get the playtest, even being so difciult. I have a goups of 5 (plus me ) veteran players who play RPG over for 10 years and board/card games too.

If some oportunity apear, i´d love to participate and pay all the costs.

Tks a lot for this idea by the way.


Interesting. I've asked my nearest venture captain to sign me up as a solo player. We'll see if it works.

Am I right in thinking that the game will be released in much the same way FFG does their Living Card Games (LCG's)? That's to say there won't be any randomness to the cards? You buy a base box with all the cards in it and all followup expansions will be self contained in their own non-random boxes? If so you have all but a guaranteed sale here. Add solo play and I might just give up all other games ever (slight exaggeration). Let's hope it lives up to my ridiculous expectations!

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David Wickham wrote:
Can I sign up as a group of one and corrupt my friends before the playtest starts?

I'm signing people up for specific slots based our or needs, so changing the number later would mean that we'd have more groups of one size than we wanted (not that big a problem) and fewer groups of another (a pretty big problem). So I pretty much need a solid commitment.

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Killer Power wrote:
You said, that you will expand the possibilities beyond FedEx if there aren't enough playtesters...

About two-thirds of the slots are already full, so it's looking like I probably won't need to expand out of FedEx.

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pluvia33 wrote:
If we did sign up as a 2 player group, would it still be okay if we playtest a few three or four player games after we finish the obligated 10+ two player sessions? Then maybe provide some feedback on the differences between the group sizes?

Yes, after you finish, that would be fine. (It wouldn't work well to do them simultaneously, because characters have their own decks which evolve over time, so swapping groups with the same set of cards would involve a lot of tedious cataloging and rebuilding of decks.)

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Gamer 68 wrote:

I'd be interested in seeing more of what this is all about. Please let me know what I can do to get more info.

Thanks

Terry

This thread contains the bulk of the info that we'll be giving out prior to playtesting. If it interests you enough to play, contact your local Venture-Captain with the info requested in the first post!

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donato wrote:
If we were to sign up for playtest what happens if we fall short in sessions? For example, we are a 30 session group and only complete 25 sessions, but we still report and contribute to the messageboard. Would there be a problem with that?

If people don't complete chapters, that means that the ends of those chapters won't be as thoroughly playtested as we're intending, and that's certainly not good...

Now, if you sign up for 30, and you get through 25, and you've participated in the boards all along, that's still valuable to us; we understand sometimes things happen, though, so we'll still reimburse you... but if you were to sign up for 30 and get through, say, 10, I wouldn't expect to see reimbursement.

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halfwing wrote:
I assume character advancement is handled through restrictions in deckbuilding, allowing more options as you level?

It's not so much "restrictions" as it is that you begin with a limited universe of cards, and as you adventure, that universe gets larger. You do get to increase your deck size as you level, as well as increase your stats and skills.

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Wolfx wrote:

What is the process once we send the email? How long do we wait for a response before trying again? Will out VC get back in touch with us about how to proceed?

Just trying to make sure I understand the process

Aric

Once your VC contacts me, I'll respond directly to you. (As of right now, I've responded to every request I've received.)

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LordxMugen wrote:
so if i get this straight your giving us real cards (or cards with placeholder art and effects), which is what were paying money for and why your fedexing it? cause thats what its sounding like to me. also, game sounds alot like thunderstone and that has my interest piqued. anyways, letting my VC know and we'll see what happens.

FedEx Office will be printing the cards from files we send them; that's what you'd be paying for (though you'd be reimbursed if you actively participate in the playtest. The playtest cards will be black-and-white, on paper stock, where the finished game will be full-color, on standard playing card stock.

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johnnype wrote:
Am I right in thinking that the game will be released in much the same way FFG does their Living Card Games (LCG's)? That's to say there won't be any randomness to the cards? You buy a base box with all the cards in it and all followup expansions will be self contained in their own non-random boxes?

That pretty well describes it!

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

By the way, my 5-person slots are all full up, and 6 and 4 are closing fast. Still a fair amount of room for 3 or less!

Thanks for all your help!


Vic Wertz wrote:

By the way, my 5-person slots are all full up, and 6 and 4 are closing fast. Still a fair amount of room for 3 or less!

Thanks for all your help!

I submitted my info for my 2 player group to Lackoffocus, and was told that he had sent it upwards, but have not received any messages from anyone else.

Also, you mentioned not recommending running multiple groups through the adventure at once, however, I was actually thinking of running 2 different groups of two players through the game, each one with different characters, end result being balance testing for 2 player groups, but playtesting of 4 total characters. Do you believe this would cause any problems?

EDIT: And I am an idiot and should have checked my email. Not just my private messages. Thank you very much, and I look forward to the playtest.

Grand Lodge

I just heard from Vic that I'm in for a solo playtest, and very much looking forward to it! Glad to be a part of the playtest group. :)


Is there a place to solicit for people in a specific geographic region who haven't already contacted their venture captain? I'm looking for players in Massachusetts, in the Cape and Islands region...

Or are there any slots available for solo testers willing to run an entire party? In my experience cooperative games have a tendency for the highest skilled player to make most of the decisions anyway.

I have already contacted my venture captain, and it is on his advice that I am soliciting on the forums.


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Also how do we know if our VC actually is checking their email. I have sent both a message and email and have heard back nothing from my VC and yet i have a group that will do all 6 chapters with 1 to 6 players.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Wolfx wrote:

What is the process once we send the email? How long do we wait for a response before trying again? Will out VC get back in touch with us about how to proceed?

Just trying to make sure I understand the process

Aric

Once your VC contacts me, I'll respond directly to you. (As of right now, I've responded to every request I've received.)

Curses, that means my VC probably hasn't contacted you yet. I'll send him another e-mail in case the first one didn't go through and got missed in a deluge of other e-mails or something. If that doesn't work, I'll try sending him a PM asking him to check his e-mail.

Thanks for the update, Vic.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
FedEx Office will be printing the cards from files we send them; that's what you'd be paying for (though you'd be reimbursed if you actively participate in the playtest. The playtest cards will be black-and-white, on paper stock, where the finished game will be full-color, on standard playing card stock.

Are the cards going to be pre-cut by Fedex, or are we going to have to do that ourselves? I ask because I want to know if I will need to borrow a paper cutter from someone :-)

Liberty's Edge

My only question is, if accepted, can we run more than one session of the playtest during our regular gaming meetings as I know that we won't meet 30 times during a 6 week period, but we can definitely manage to get through 30 1-1.5 hour sessions in that time during our regular game meetings (I hate not saying sessions there but to avoid confusion I used meetings)


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Could I inquire into whether you still have six player slots open? Unfortunately I just found out about this today and will have to see if I can get a party together tonight, but I doubt that will be hard.

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halfwing wrote:
Also, you mentioned not recommending running multiple groups through the adventure at once, however, I was actually thinking of running 2 different groups of two players through the game, each one with different characters, end result being balance testing for 2 player groups, but playtesting of 4 total characters. Do you believe this would cause any problems?

The pool of cards is basically meant to support one campaign, so each group really needs their own set of cards.

If you were very familiar with the game, you could likely work around that with some careful management, but that wouldn't be beneficial for the playtest.

Also, if we had the same person in more than one group, for maximizing playtest feedback, I'd want them playing different chapters in each group.

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DeciusBrutus wrote:
Is there a place to solicit for people in a specific geographic region who haven't already contacted their venture captain?

It's not really needed... all of my large group slots are full.

DeciusBrutus wrote:
Or are there any slots available for solo testers willing to run an entire party?

I don't really need that, but I do still have a few slots for one person willing to run one character.

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Tamago wrote:
Are the cards going to be pre-cut by Fedex, or are we going to have to do that ourselves? I ask because I want to know if I will need to borrow a paper cutter from someone :-)

FedEx will cut them.

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Joshua Hirtz wrote:
Could I inquire into whether you still have six player slots open? Unfortunately I just found out about this today and will have to see if I can get a party together tonight, but I doubt that will be hard.

I'm booked for 4, 5, and 6-player groups, but still have a few openings for 1, 2, and 3.

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CorzatTheGray wrote:
My only question is, if accepted, can we run more than one session of the playtest during our regular gaming meetings as I know that we won't meet 30 times during a 6 week period, but we can definitely manage to get through 30 1-1.5 hour sessions in that time during our regular game meetings (I hate not saying sessions there but to avoid confusion I used meetings)

You can divide up the sessions however you like!

Liberty's Edge

Vic Wertz wrote:
CorzatTheGray wrote:
Stuff...
You can divide up the sessions however you like!

Excellent! Now if only we can get in on the playtest... sent our VL an email earlier today


Vic Wertz wrote:
Joshua Hirtz wrote:
Could I inquire into whether you still have six player slots open? Unfortunately I just found out about this today and will have to see if I can get a party together tonight, but I doubt that will be hard.
I'm booked for 4, 5, and 6-player groups, but still have a few openings for 1, 2, and 3.

Are you responding only to those accepted? I contacted my VC on day 1 & hadnae heard anything yet.


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Alright, so I've messaged my Venture Captian about getting a request in for a 3-player group. Now, I'm hoping a slot is still available. Though I would be happy to get whatever I can.

I know I was already looking forward to a MMORPG and would like to jump on this chance to actually help with the card game.

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