Set |
I prefer the term traitor.
While I'm no fan of 'Wild Dog' and would love for him to go away, calling him a traitor for behaving pretty much exactly like Oliver does when someone threatens someone he loves like his sister, or his current girlfriend, or his annoying son, seems over the top.
Vidmaster7 |
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Vidmaster7 wrote:I prefer the term traitor.While I'm no fan of 'Wild Dog' and would love for him to go away, calling him a traitor for behaving pretty much exactly like Oliver does when someone threatens someone he loves like his sister, or his current girlfriend, or his annoying son, seems over the top.
Hmm I don't know see I feel like his action ended up putting him and his daughter in far worse danger and still continues to do so.
Damon Griffin |
If Thea wants to be the new Ras, she needs to train hard, and soon. She's been out of the game for a while, and wouldn't be that hard to challenge for the position.
She gets no points for being Malcolm's daughter, any more than Nyssa did for being her father's daughter -- what apparently matters to the League is the former Ras's designated heir. Did Malcolm pick Thea to succeed him? Does that sound like a good way to protect his daughter? Dunno, maybe to him it would. But it's easier to see him wanting her to join the League while he was Ras, in order to protect her.
All that said, Thea as the new head of the League would be interesting, except in that it probably just stuffs that character into the generic LoA role of "mercenary pretending to be something more." The Arrowverse LoA is boring, even if one or two of its members are not, and every unnamed member seems to be a mook-in-training rather than one of the most highly skilled assassins in the world.
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
I really liked this week's episode. Much better than the last few.
What was different? No Rene.
It isn't the actor, I like him just fine. But the character annoys me to no end.
Agreed. Though honestly the episode before last may have been the nadir point of virtually EVERYONE on the show outside of Felicity acting like completely d##+~eads. I've forgiven a lot of this show's wangsty middle school dramatics over the years but that whole ep was awful.
Thankfully last week got back on track. Bringing the LoA back... eh, don't love them, don't hate them. Nyssa is usually entertaining. At least it promises a shift in focus from the dregs of the last couple of weeks.
GreenDragon1133 |
So this week ARGUS is inside Star City. But when the city was sealed off they weren't.
And how dare Oliver respond to a dangerous person with an axe by putting him down. Clearly Oliver was completely and solely at fault in that situation.
I would ask why both of them couldn't be Green Arrow? But I guess that wasn't the problem.
And why didn't the Mayor's office issue a statement regarding corrupt officials being dismissed? Not the mayor himself, just his office.
GreenDragon1133 |
So this week ARGUS is inside Star City. But when the city was sealed off they weren't.
And how dare Oliver respond to a dangerous person with an axe by putting him down. Clearly Oliver was completely and solely at fault in that situation.
I would ask why both of them couldn't be Green Arrow? But I guess that wasn't the problem.
And why didn't the Mayor's office issue a statement regarding corrupt officials being dismissed? Not the mayor himself, just his office.
Another thought. Star City is a part of the United States. Which means that Federal Agent that has brought charges against the mayor - or a bunch of her peers - could be requested to come in and clean house on the crooked SCPD and DA's office. If Dinah can spot the crooked cops, so could a Fed.
Since outside of one attempt by ARGUS, the Feds did nothing to help Star City deal with a terrorist attack - not even providing relief aid after the fact to rebuild all those bridges, etc. or pay for essential services - they kinda owe Star City.
GreenDragon1133 |
Now I'm just a plain, simple, country viewer, and not some high-priced legal expert. But if a Federal Agent brings the charges, usually they are Federal charges, and go through a Federal court. Not the local court or DA.
The way this played out, makes sense only if the Fed was in Diaz' pocket as well.
Readerbreeder |
In addition to the Federal/local divide (or lack of one, in this case), I'm not sure the writers understand impeachment, at least if it works the same way as the process for impeaching the President.
Impeachment and removal from office are not the same. You have a vote for impeachment, there is a trial, and then a vote to remove from office or not. The kind of skipped right over the trial part and went right to removing Ollie from office.
I just keep telling myself that it's a TV show, but if the writers are trying to propose a world that works like ours except for the mystical elements they introduce, it looks like they need to do a bit more research.
GreenDragon1133 |
The alley behind SCPD was used in the flashback on Black Lightning. I was just surprised about seeing Roy's old house.
The ceiling at Hogan's Alley Bar looked familiar also.
So regarding the plot. These are the real powers in crime in the country? People who can be directly tied to crimes? And seat at the table or no, Diaz should be sleeping with the fishes the first time he turns his back. If these people were mob bosses in star City, they would have to kill him to maintain their cred at his walking in and blasting their lobby. And these are supposed to be the Overbosses of North America.
Which is even odder. Four Quadrants, suggests regional. Star City is a Pacific Coast city. Bludhaven is just down the coast from Gotham City on the Atlantic. So Diaz took our the East or Northeast Boss, and his territory is in the West or Northwest.
And if the Bludhaven boss wasn't going to talk about him, how did the other boss (and the two extras across the table) know who he was?
MMCJawa |
The alley behind SCPD was used in the flashback on Black Lightning. I was just surprised about seeing Roy's old house.
Black Lightning is filmed around Atlanta Georgia I believe. Seems very unlikely that Black Lightning can resuse any sets from the other CW shows, all of which are filmed around Vancouver.
GreenDragon1133 |
I can't help but feel that the writers wanted us to care about Rene in this episode.
That part where Digg apologized? Yeah, that's where "sorry I betrayed the team, provoked multiple fights, and took an axe to an unarmed man" should have been.
Is there some way I can hope that girl loses her dad, and not be as big a monster as her dad?
But hey, compared to Diaz, he almost qualifies as sympathetic.
GreenDragon1133 |
Let's see.
1) Multiple counts for the Appellate Court to dismiss on grounds of mistrial
2) ARGUS Director Speed Dial #1 POTUS. Presidential Pardon
3) 20 random cell phone videos of a mand coming out of the courthouse, being assaulted, and an army of police arriving and addressing this man as their "boss."
And what exactly is preventing ARGUS from rolling in, grabbing any SCPD officer,or other known associate of Diaz, and holding them in a black site, without legal recourse? That's how Amanda Waller rolled? And Cayden James was taken on Lila's watch, so that's how she rolls too.
And finally, Rene apologizes!
Set |
While I know that they try to avoid having people from other shows show up and solve their problems, I was kind of wondering if they'd make an exception for Laurel, by calling the Flash crew and asking if she could be Breached back home (and away from Diaz's inevitable retribution), since faux-Laurel already was from another show (and we know from the gadget that Cisco made for Supergirl that Breaching someone doesn't even require Cisco to be present).
Normally I'd actually prefer for the Arrow crew to solve their own problems, rather than have every episode dissolve into 'why not just call Barry, he'll have it dealt with before we could get our costumes on...'
But in this case, Laurel's already a cross-show/cross-world traveler, and I think it would be a little bit hilarious for Diaz to menace her and for her to pull out a gizmo and fade into a breach, while noting that he's a big fish in this very small pond, while she's not even from his *world.*
Damon Griffin |
Set, that makes a lot of sense to me. You're probably correct that it's only not being done because the writers want to control the cross-pollination.
There's also the fact that more of that sort of thing could require more precise timekeeping than is currently necessary. Over on Flash, for example, Supergirl would obviously be a huge help in taking down DeVoe, especially since Braniac 5 is currently on hand as well. But they've got serious Worldkiller problems, so...what? Team Flash calls and she sends her regrets? All the CW shows go from small-c crisis to small-c crisis, with few breaks in between. Having to calendar coordinate those breaks across four series, to know when one set of heroes might be available to aid another, would be a pain to maintain all season.
Sorry, big digression there. Yes, Laurel could be safely sent off-world without any of that hugely complicated stuff I wandered off into.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Vidmaster7 |
Vidmaster7 wrote:I'm guessing it won't have any connection to the TV show Gotham.JoelF847 wrote:CW upfronts today announced that next season's crossover event will introduce Gotham City to the Arrowverse, along with Batwoman!Looks like its time for me to catch up on gotham.
Oh well then never mind.
GreenDragon1133 |
Once again: When you are personally involved in saving the planet, and POTUS owes you, a Presidential Pardon is easy to come by.
Like, before he ever saw a holding cell.
Unless going to prison was part of a plan.
There was a script being circulated about 10 years ago. Supermax. It was offered to Pre-Marvel Studios Marvel. They offered Captain America. The writers were like "okay?" Then Warner offered Green Arrow.
Then development hell set in as: Man of Steel was greenlit to introduce a DC cinematic universe, and a Green Arrow TV show was launched.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
So, this season, instead of flashbacks to the island, we're getting flash forwards?
Yes. I read they're 20 years in the future, and not connected to the Legends of Tomorrow S1 episode set in Star City's future. Also, that they'll continue not only for the rest of the season, but for multiple seasons going forward.