Free hand fighter


Rules Questions


What does it mean "lefts his hand free"? Wielding a spiked gauntlet - my hand is technically free, but it wields a weapon.


And what does it mean 2ields a weapon in one hand? :)

Two spiked gauntlets in boh hands - one is for "free hand", second is for "hand with a weapon" :)


The question is can i use two spiked gauntlets, "having a hand free" and "wielding a melee weapon in one hand", and using only unarmed strikes while two-wealon fighting (with legs, for example)?

Grand Lodge

Are you just looking to two weapon fight with Spiked Gauntlets?

What do you want from Free Hand Fighter?


why do you care about having spiked gauntlets if you're only attacking with unarmed strikes?


Dodge bonus, disarm bonus, BAB, lots of feats, bonuses to attack rolls and damage rolls, weapon focus and specialisation. And "defending" and "guarding" gauntlets.
I'm not looking for gauntlets twf, I'm looking for unarmed strikes twf (by legs, for example) WITH BOTH GAUNTLETS on me (providing class bonuses and enhancement bonuses to AC and ST).


Because free hand fighter gets bonuses when he has "one hand free" and "one wielding a melee weapon", plus two-weapon defense needs a weapon to provide me a shield bonus.

Maybe, it looks like super stupid using a hole in rules, but it actually has a roleplaying concept + to the intresting build).

EDIT: It is Monk (master of many styles / flowing monk) 5 / fighter ( free hand fighter) 15, with wow if chains and obedience to Zon-Kuthon. Gauntlets are for defending, legs are to kick enemies.

Grand Lodge

Why not Two-Weapon Warrior? It has the whole scaling Dodge Bonus thing too.

Hell, Swashbuckler gets it at the same rate. You can even go Whirling Dervish, and get built in Dex to Damage.


Not intrested in swashbuckler, Advanced Class Guide is banned at our table.
Why not two-weapon warrior? Hm... It gets bonuses only when makes full attack, it is not so often, you know :) I need this AC for the start of battle, when I can be already killed.


And dex to damage is just a gold question for Agile Amulet of Mighty fists.

Grand Lodge

Lord Lupus the Grey wrote:

Not intrested in swashbuckler, Advanced Class Guide is banned at our table.

Why not two-weapon warrior? Hm... It gets bonuses only when makes full attack, it is not so often, you know :) I need this AC for the start of battle, when I can be already killed.

You mean when you are Flat-footed, and wouldn't get the bonuses to AC anyways?

Grand Lodge

Amulet of Mighty Fists does not apply to Spiked Gauntlet attacks.

You know, you should make a thread in the Advice Forum.

There is likely a less rule hoop way to meet you concept.


Or, maybe, you're right. I missed, that on 15th level two-weapon warrior will get +3 on attack and damage roll, and free hand will get only +2. Dodge bonus is still a question, but -2 to 0 penalty to attack rolls is cool.
Thanks for that!


I don't need gauntlets for attacking! Just for defense!
Amulet of mighty fists for kicking asses with unarmed strikes (with legs)

Liberty's Edge

You sly devil, you


You can't use the "defending" and "guarding" properties of the gauntlets unless you use them to attack with. Thus defeating your reasoning for having them.


Oh, it's some bad news :( Can i still use them, for example, as last attacks of twf? So they need to be just gauntlets, not spiked gauntlets, to be enchanted.


It almost ruins the idea of fighting defensively with two-weapon defense feat, because it does not work with unarmed strikes :(

Grand Lodge

I highly suggest starting a thread in the Advice Forum.

I am sure you can find a way to meet your concept.

By the way, why is the ACG banned?

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