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Using oversized weapons


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Is there a feat in Pathfinder that allows medium creature to use a Large weapon without penalty?

IIRC in 3.5 there was a feat called Monkey Grip that did something similar.

I'm creating a custom race that are about 8 foot tall degenerate giants. They are medium but still use their ancestor's weapons.


If you're creating a race, you could simply make that a racial trait. As far as I know, there is no PF equivalent of Monkey Grip.


No, nothing like Monkey Grip has been published by Paizo.

But, you might want to look at Half-giant from the Psionics Unleashed material which is at least endorsed by Paizo and just updates the Half-Giant race from 3.5's XPH.

Half-Giant is already a lot like what you're describing, truth-be-told. But they have the "Powerful Build" ability which treats them as large for a few purposes, including which weapons they can wield.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/races/half-giant


Tim Statler wrote:

Is there a feat in Pathfinder that allows medium creature to use a Large weapon without penalty?

IIRC in 3.5 there was a feat called Monkey Grip that did something similar.

I'm creating a custom race that are about 8 foot tall degenerate giants. They are medium but still use their ancestor's weapons.

I do know what you're looking for, but in the official books, it is not classified as a "feat"; it is classified as a Barbarian Archetype: The Titan Mauler.

One of their class features allows them to wield weapons not meant for their size with reduced penalties, and/or increase the size for which they can wield (as there is a limit as to what size you can use a weapon to attack with), and is probably exactly what you are looking for, and then some.

Silver Crusade

Actually, the Titan Mauler does not do this. It cannot wield oversized weapons over the natural 1-category limit. It is supposed to, but simply doesn't work as written and has not been errata-ed yet, so you may search the board for the developer's unofficial errata on this matter.


To clarify:

Titan Mauler CAN use oversized weapons. Titan Mauler CANNOT use weapons that when oversized would make them larger than 2handed.

Example1:
A Medium Titan Mauler can use, and reduce the penalties for, a 1handed weapon sized for a Large creature. That is an oversized weapon that counts as 2handed for the Titan Mauler.

Example 2:
A Medium Titan mauler cannot use, or reduce the penalties for, a 1 handed weapon sized for a Huge creature. That is an oversized weapon that has grown beyond 2handed for the Titan Mauler.

Titan Maulers were intended to be able to use weapons that are normally impossible to use due to being oversized. However, that did not make it to print.

- Gauss


And vital strike barbarians will rejoice the day that is finally errata'd officially


Tim Statler wrote:

Is there a feat in Pathfinder that allows medium creature to use a Large weapon without penalty?

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I'm creating a custom race that are about 8 foot tall degenerate giants. They are medium but still use their ancestor's weapons.

Some giants (Cloud and Ash) have an ability called Oversized Weapon (Ex) which allows them (Huge creatures) to wield Gargantuan weapons without penalty. There's also a Beneficial Deformity (Oversized Limb) that allows ogrekin to wield weapons one size category larger than normal without any penalty.

Just factor in the increase in power with whatever racial balance you're making. It's really not all that different from Improved Natural Attack.

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