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Borderlands 2 Love? Hate? Meh? *Spoilers*


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What's your opinion of the game? What did you like? Dislike? Apathetic about?

Personally, while I love Tiny Tina and Claptraps dialogue, I was really rather missing a lot of the personality of the original characters. I love Tannis and her Echo Recordings in the first game, but she's just a bit player in this one.

I really enjoyed the Storyline, and I'm a little ashamed I rushed through the game to get it. I went back and did a lot of the side-quests, and I wish I had done them at the appropriate level. I wasn't too fond of the ending though, mainly because of it's similarities too Halo 2.

Ending:
In that, at the end of Halo 2, all of the other Rings were prepped and ready to fire, and Borderlands 2 suddenly has dozens of vaults opening everywhere, or preparing to open. It struck me as kind of ripping of Halo in a way.

I'm not too fond of some of the new characters, or interactions between some of the older characters, or some events in the storyline. I don't like Ellie (Scooter's Sister), nor was I too fond of the whole thing between Roland and Lilith, it just wasn't my cup of tea.

Story Events:
I very much so disliked killing Angel. I hope there is some way of bringing her back in Borderlands 3 if there is one. The game just wouldn't be the same without her in my opinion.

I did like Handsome Jack though, his backstory was really interesting to me. I loved a lot of his lines, and I think he was a big influence in completing my immersion into the game.

What's your favorite classes? Any you dislike? Why to both?

I've always been a big team player, which is why I loved playing Mordecai and Roland in Borderlands 1. They had some good abilities for helping the team. Like amping up Bloodwings Swipe ability to produce more healing, or the many benefits of the Scorpio turret. So I went with the Siren this game, and I gotta say, I love her. While I miss some of the pure awesome Lilith's Phasewalk had, I enjoy the more team-oriented Maya.

I'm not too fond of the other three characters though. The Gunzerker is just OP in my opinion, even without The Bee shield. Zer0 has too much "Lone Wolf" in him, but Axton's pretty good, if only because his Turret can be really helpful in a pinch to provide a safe haven and covering fire. The Nuke can clear rooms too.

My Siren is currently level 50, and she's got some good loot. Currently, she's got 4 E-Tech SMGs, 2 Hyprion (Acid and Slag), a Shock Tediore, and a Fire Dahl. She's got the Legendary Pitchfork Sniper, Legendary Bee Shield, Legendary Payload grenade, Slayer of Terramorphous Class Mod (solo'd before I got The Bee Shield), and the Legendary Impaler Shield.

I run DPS/Healing for my Siren. If you play Xbox, my Gamertag is Pumba315, I'm always up for a game of Borderlands if you're on.


Playing through the PC version on steam with my brother both around level 20ish. We're both enjoying the heck out of it so far. I played through the first near entirely as Mordecai specced into sniping the crap out of stuff. Following that, in this one I'm Zero also specced for sniping (though I have tried every character up to around level 10). My brother is playing the new Siren and they make a pretty nasty pair. Even the most shielded guys get screwed when tossed in the air and sniped repeatedly in the weak points.

I do have to say Zero's active is nowhere near as friendly for parties since fairly often the enemy doesn't bother with your projection and just beats on your partner instead. The Siren's is awesome, as is the Gunzerker's (when my brother pointed out he regenerates ammo and health while in his active my jaw just dropped).

Story-wise we are enjoying it so far. It definitely keeps a good deal of the charm and humour from the first. That said, we haven't so far had any of the truly memorable quests like from the first one yet (Skagzilla being the first example to come to mind). Potentially we aren't far enough yet so I'm going to hold out hope yet. There has been some very funny ones but most have amounted to killing x creatures or collecting y items. Still fun but didn't feel quite as creative as some of the quests in the first one.

Still consider it well worth the money and have no regrets about the purchase! Very fun and as said Handsome Jack is just awesome (Diamond Pony!).


E-tech Tediore SMG's are the bomb-diggity. The grenade effect is a big boost to damage and the clip is long enough that you can control when you toss it.

I've been playing ZerO. He can be a lone wolf, but he makes a good last ditch savior too. The Deception hologram does a good job of drawing fire, making it easier to get a dangerous revive in. A sniper build can also bring down some of the critable enemies down pretty fast. With the talent that increases crit damage after each crit I can take down Badass Constructors in seconds if I have a fast shooting sniper rifle.

I tend to run with team accuracy, unless its extra important to boost my crit damage (like I know a badass is coming that I can take out with crits).


Irontruth wrote:

E-tech Tediore SMG's are the bomb-diggity. The grenade effect is a big boost to damage and the clip is long enough that you can control when you toss it.

I've been playing ZerO. He can be a lone wolf, but he makes a good last ditch savior too. The Deception hologram does a good job of drawing fire, making it easier to get a dangerous revive in. A sniper build can also bring down some of the critable enemies down pretty fast. With the talent that increases crit damage after each crit I can take down Badass Constructors in seconds if I have a fast shooting sniper rifle.

I tend to run with team accuracy, unless its extra important to boost my crit damage (like I know a badass is coming that I can take out with crits).

Well, the Siren really is the best at last ditch reviving, she has an ability called Res which allows her to revive people with her phaselock. I've tested it on many maps, and basically, as long as there is nothing physically between me and you, I can revive someone at any distance. It can make a huge difference in boss fights.

I will admit though, Zer0 can really pump out damage with melee and snipers. My friend has a level 50, and he can do crazy things with him. I typically run the Nurse Mod which gives health regen to all players, or, if I need to put out more damage, I switch over to my SMG mod which increases SMG damage by 75% and gives major bonuses to my damage skills.


Agreed, your instant Res is better, no doubt. Just saying I've found myself useful on a team as well :P


There is something wonderful to be said about having 2 teleporting magnetic turrets when it comes to clearing rooms of bad guys.
Also E-tech is friggin dope.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

Watched some friends play last weekend.

Bought the soundtrack and the first game afterwards.

WUBWUBWUBWUB


Enjoying the heck out of the game, so far. I've mostly played Zer0, with my duo pal playing Maya. As someone else mentioned, a really nasty combination.

As in Borderlands, I think they've nailed the 'useful loot' ratio just right (unlike certain other recent loot-centric games *cough*cough*), making it exiting every time you come across a loot chest.

Tiny Tina was fun, and when you get some extra insight into her background, you realize what a tragic character she really is. I liked that. And Handsome Jack is a fantastic villain, just the right amount og snark and smugness to *really* make you want to wrap your hands around his throat.

Hopefully I'm not too far into the story yet, though I'm liking where it's going so far. The twists so far, while perhaps not mindbogglingly clever, have made sense and were clever enough that I didn't feel insulted that my character is forced to fall for it.

Spoiler:
While I suspected that Wilhelm was a plant to get me to install his power core into Sanctuary's defence system, I hadn't seen Angel's play in it.

If there's one thing I don't like, it's the tendency for long-winded plot-exposition dialogue to trigger while I'm really busy staying alive. I've lost count of how many of Jack's stabs at me I've missed over the sound of shotgun autofire. I've toyed with the sound settings, but apparently not enough. I feel I've missed out on a good portion of the story so far, due to this.

Edit: Best moment so far? Killing three guys with one sniper shot. Beautiful.


One of my favorite things about this and the first game, is the multitude of Easter Eggs and References the game makes. From Ninja Turtles, to Snow White, to Minecraft, Borderlands has enough hidden jokes and secrets to make anyone laugh.

My favorite epic moment was this mission where you had to crash a wake. My friend was running a Commando with a Nuke set up, so every time he deployed his turret, a nuke went off. He was a little higher than I was, but anyway, he threw his turret down in the center of the wake (we were supposed to kill everyone there). BOOOM!!!! When the explosion cleared, everyone was dead an no one had fired a shot. We had to take a 5-minute breather to recover from the laughter.

All time favorite moment in the game though? STAIRS!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

You'll get it when you get to that mnission. Make sure not to rush forward, there's some hilarious dialogue after this moment.

[Edit] Unfortunately, I had to restart my Commando. A recent storm knocked out the power while I saving, and when I came back, the file was corrupted.

[Edit] Ugh, so many favorite moments flooded my mind after I made this. From the What Does it Mean? secret, to an epic save I made using my Phaselock, quite literally, across the map to using a longbow transfusion grenade to heal a team mate WAAAAY out of site.


Still trying ot get used to the longbow. I love singularity grenades though. I also love that there's no friendly fire, when an ally is surrounded by enemies I can toss a grenade at his feet without worrying about him.


Been playing it for a while. Like with many games, it's exciting at first but you slowly see the cracks in the lining.

Good:
-Skills are a lot more useful than in BL1 where there were plenty of utterly useless skills. Plenty of bugged and fail skills in 2, but there are more good choices.
-Most guns are now useful in some way, whether they are white or purple or orange. There is fewer trash, though if you have a good gun you'll like find a lot of slightly weaker gear. The only guns that are consistently weak are the non-torgue assault rifles. SMGs are just better...
-The villain is good, and really vile. Finally a smart villain.
-Enemy variety is up, and pretty great. Suicide enemies are stupid, however. Just never put those in a game please.
-Level design is up a great deal. Prepare for exploration to get all secrets.
-There is gambling with a slot machine. It is glorious. Sadly it is better than the vending machines.
-Maya and Axton have very useful action skills and very interesting skills with a lot of options.
-Gunplay is a lot better, recoil is present, guns usually feel powerful and impactful. Assault rifles, however, have too much recoil and are almost worthless.

Bad:
-Zer0 notably has only a few viable builds. His melee falls short, not enough interesting sniping skills otherwise. His middle tree is okay, and he makes a great run-n-gun guy who occasionally backstabs from stealth for huge damage.
-Salvador is very gear dependent, but there is a bug which allows him to deal rocket launcher damage with assault rifles... Protip: get yourself Hyperion weapons.
-As great as the villain is, the good guys are horrible. Your old vault hunters are now pretty dumb and leave an incompetent impression.
-They went too story-driven. There is a notable cutscene in which something significant happens which you can't stop because... cutscene and apparently you are standing around frozen. The story also isn't really inspiring. Just the villain that makes it acceptable.
-Good loot (blue and purple) is too few and far between, even worse than BL1. You will NEED to farm now unless you use glitch-zerker, or you will have a very hard time progressing.

MOST IMPORTANT: The game is a LOT better optimized than BL1, and it actually runs way better on my machine than the first game.


Farming! Ugh, yeah, that's something I wish resembled the first game. I mean, having to kill the same guy for 3 hours just to get his rare gun isn't fun. I wish the chance for the rare loot drop was more than whatever it is. I've got my share of rare loot, but I've also spent A LOT of time farming for it too.

I have yet to play Salvador, but the people I've played with that have, told me that, when Gunzerking, he can lay waste to just about anything. The multitude of Gunzerker videos, solo killing Terramorphous in less than 10 seconds is proof enough of that.

I have to agree, there were some holes in the plot, like that cutscene you mention, but, overall, I think this game is better than the first.


That cutscene was the turning point in the quality of the story for me as well. It felt like the story reached a peak at that point and couldn't maintain the energy after that.


Conference Call + The Bee = Wow.


I agree, gameplaywise the game is better than the first, all the small improvements (gunplay + better whites + playstyles + skill improvements + level design) make the game a lot better. Also the optimization... OH YES THE OPTIMIZATION. Game runs soooo good.

Bottom line: game can be improved in various ways but is pretty enjoyable gameplay-wise. More of borderlands 1, but better in various details.

Andoran

haven't started the game yet, waiting for the mechromancer DLC class

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

I just heard that Ashly Burch from Hey Ash, Whatcha Playin'? has a role in this.

Is there a dangerously psychotic woman-child somewhere in the game? Because I can't imagine her playing anything else besides that or a malfunctioning female Claptrap counterpart.


Yes, I love all of her dialogue.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

Ah, I had heard those aforementioned friends talking about this character as their favorite earlier. Should have connected the dots earlier. :)


Tiny Tina should have had a larger role in Borderlands 2, in my opinion. Her dialogue was hilarious, and I wish there was more interaction with her.


I picked up Borderlands - GOTY edition and I have been enjoying it a lot. I will pick up Borderlands 2 sometime next year. A question. Can you do all of the Borderlands 2 quests solo?


Sharoth wrote:
I picked up Borderlands - GOTY edition and I have been enjoying it a lot. I will pick up Borderlands 2 sometime next year. A question. Can you do all of the Borderlands 2 quests solo?

Yes and No.

All of the pre-endgame quests are designed to be able to be played solo. Some of them are, admittedly, far easier with a friend or 3 playing.

After you beat the boss of the main story, a new quest becomes available called You. Will. Die. (Seriously). This is one of the three most powerful bosses in the game. While you can solo the monster (I have done so) it requires exploiting a brokenly powerful item, or using an area of the map that is glitched that prevents nearly all of the creatures attacks from hitting you.

As it stands, I have yet to see a party that isn't using one of the two above methods, be able to beat that boss.

Now, as for the original Borderlands, what are you playing on? I still own my copy for Xbox if you ever need some help playing through it. Also, if you're going to be picking up all the DLC, it'll be a long time before you make it to Borderlands 2. Especially if you want to beat every side quest.


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I've been really enjoying this game, but the tone and dialogue does get irritating after a point. Like hanging out with a very insecure friend that has to prove he's not taking anything seriously but needs to be validated almost constantly. "That was awesome!", every other character says, drawing your attention to whatever you or they just did. "Isn't that awesome?", the game asks you, the player, that gleam of desperate hope in its eye. "Aren't you having fun? Please, please just tell me you're having fun."

It is still a good time and I've had a lot more fun with it than the first one, but after a point the tone rubs me the wrong way.


What character are you talking about? The only guy that says, "That was AWESOOOOOME!" is the King.


Tels wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
I picked up Borderlands - GOTY edition and I have been enjoying it a lot. I will pick up Borderlands 2 sometime next year. A question. Can you do all of the Borderlands 2 quests solo?

Yes and No.

All of the pre-endgame quests are designed to be able to be played solo. Some of them are, admittedly, far easier with a friend or 3 playing.

After you beat the boss of the main story, a new quest becomes available called You. Will. Die. (Seriously). This is one of the three most powerful bosses in the game. While you can solo the monster (I have done so) it requires exploiting a brokenly powerful item, or using an area of the map that is glitched that prevents nearly all of the creatures attacks from hitting you.

As it stands, I have yet to see a party that isn't using one of the two above methods, be able to beat that boss.

Now, as for the original Borderlands, what are you playing on? I still own my copy for Xbox if you ever need some help playing through it. Also, if you're going to be picking up all the DLC, it'll be a long time before you make it to Borderlands 2. Especially if you want to beat every side quest.

I have Borderlands 1 for the X-Box 360 and I have all the DLCs.


Woot! Teaser for the Mechromancer. It's an Echo Recording of Gaige at 13 with Cherami Leigh as the voice actress. I hope she's the actual voice for Gaige, one of my all time favorite actresses right there.

Btw, yes, if you see a Tels nerding out in the comments, we're the same people.


Supposedly the Mechromancer is being released today, rather than on the 16th. Looking forward to that, though I suspect it's really tomorrow rather than today. Oh the agony.

We'll see!


Well, I just got an update on my Xbox for the game, but the Mechromancer hasn't yet been made available. I imagine it actually will go live today (October 9th) and not tomorrow.


Mechromancer just became available on the Xbox!

Lantern Lodge

Picking up the Mechromancer today! While I picked it up later than everyone else, I'm loving it thus far. I'm Lvl 28 right now on my first playthrough as Zero. If anyone wants to game together, feel free to add me. My gamertag is Severed Ronin.


Tels wrote:
Well, I just got an update on my Xbox for the game, but the Mechromancer hasn't yet been made available. I imagine it actually will go live today (October 9th) and not tomorrow.

By 'tomorrow', I mean that the only report I've seen say "will be available on all platforms by the end of the day." Which is pretty close to 'tomorrow afternoon after work'.

Tomorrow will be a looooong day.


Well, the Mechromancer went live for the Xbox at roughly 5 AM CMT (2 AM for me in Alaska). So if you're playing Xbox, it should already be available. If you're on something else, then I have no idea, but I'd imagine it's already available.


It's been on steam for 4 hours.


JrK wrote:
It's been on steam for 4 hours.

And I got to play for two of those, before willpower made me go to bed at a reasonable time. Stupid willpower. But hooray! Seems pretty fun so far.

And, seriously, that girl is craaazy. If you haven't, check out some of the comments she make when you've been idling too long.


Anybody playing this on PS3? Hit me up if you are. My id is mock-star.


It's a great game, I've been playing as Axton when I get on.

Though I was an almost exclusively Mordecai player in BL1, and didn't like Roland that much.

Spoiler:
You can imagine that I had fanboy rage the likes of which I have never felt before when Bloodwing was killed. I literally threw my controller on the ground and stopped playing for about 10 minutes.


I didn't have quite the same reaction (I learned long ago to not throw controllers as I did it alot as a kid), but I was certainly dumbstruck.

Have you got to play the Mr. Torgue DLC? By far my favorite campaign DLC of the Borderlands universe. I spent a ridiculous amount of time laughing while playing that DLC and the fights weren't too shabby either. I really enjoyed everything about that DLC, far more than the Pirates one (which I really disliked).


Tels wrote:

I didn't have quite the same reaction (I learned long ago to not throw controllers as I did it alot as a kid), but I was certainly dumbstruck.

Have you got to play the Mr. Torgue DLC? By far my favorite campaign DLC of the Borderlands universe. I spent a ridiculous amount of time laughing while playing that DLC and the fights weren't too shabby either. I really enjoyed everything about that DLC, far more than the Pirates one (which I really disliked).

I was very MEH on the Torgue DLC. I thought the jokes were there but just didn't really make me laugh. I play the siren mostly so a straight up fight with bosses is very rare for me. I found myself with this DLC fight just hiding and shotting from cover, same thing I mostly did with the main game with bosses. The T-Rex was exactly that.

Now the Pirates fights were completely different. They had an clear tactics you needed to learn. I LOVED the Leviathan fight, just wish you could do it more than twice!

P.S. I now find myself grinding over the same missions to get the gold items in the new gun shops. Not all that run, but I guess worth it.


I picked this up in the Steam sale.

The Mechromancer is crazy amounts of fun.


Umbral Reaver wrote:

I picked this up in the Steam sale.

The Mechromancer is crazy amounts of fun.

Yes. Yes she is.


Anarchy plus max ranks of close enough makes elemental automatic shotguns great for long range combat. :D


I have a class mod that gives me +5 to Close Enough that I traded with a friend for a class mod that gives +5 that gives regen when your clip is full. He loves running around with his Infinity Pistol, full Anarchy and Blood Soaked Shields. That guy is a tank! Meanwhile, I sit back spraying bullets everywhere and almost never missing.


Been playing as the Mechnomancer (currently 23 or so). I'm a Sniper/Pistol freak using the middle talent tree so far.

Definitely as good as the original, the humor is there....

despite:
considerably less Claptrap

Good-
1) The Deathtrap robot and Singularity grenades.
2) Weapons are more useful this time. Corrosive vs. Robots, Anti-armor vs. Insects, Fire vs. Flesh, etc. They all feel like they work better vs. the various types of enemies. I keep 2-3 of each weapon (Sniper/Pistol combo) usually on hand.
3) The talent trees with the badass badge permanent buffs.
4) Crazy humor...

Like:
Scooter's love quest, Claptrap's dub-step song, Claptrap's Birthday, Ellie in general. Tiny Tina the weirdo club-kid/Demolitions expert, etc.

5) The Bandit Technical with Catapult!™ - These wheels remind me of the UT clan days with Flak Cannon alt-fire. Taking down Helicopters is fun with this vehicle.
6) Bosses are cool.

Bad-
1) Specific quest types - The back and forth, all over the damn world quests. I'm looking at you "Clan War". Timed side-quests like the Postal one and Dr. Zed's "arms" race. Thankfully there have been only two so far. Waves of enemy quests (I avoided the Mad Moxxi's DLC in the original because of this), so far it's just been the Slaughterhouse one thankfully.
2) Useful gun upgrades come slower, still using Tiny Tina's Teapot for example, as well as a random drop Twin-Anaconda fire pistol (though fire weapons seem to have lost their value), and a Tediore anti-shield pistol.
3) Shotguns aren't worth carrying with my play style (same as first game, more personal preference of course).

Example:
The Core AI quest/Shotgun was funny, but the weapon's talking personality got old fast (provided the turn-in was with Marcus of course).

All in all, the franchise is still one of my favorite day 1 must buys. I'll be picking up the season pass soon for all the DLCs even Torque's arena DLC because it seems more story oriented than Moxxi's.

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Sunderstone, you'll be happy to know that, while Torgue's campaign seems arena-y at first, it really isn't. There's only a couple of 'wave' fights in it at all! (Though one of the wave fights is endlessly repeatable)

There are a total of 3 wave fights in the original game, Fink's Slauhterhouse, the Hyperion Zoo in the Wildlife Exchange (need a DLC for it or a pre-order copy), and the Hyperion one in the Eridium Blight (same area as Mal, the robot).

If you liked Tiny Tina, then you'll love Torgue's Campaign of Carnage.

Some things about your 'Bad' issues.

2) I agree, my first play through on my Siren had me using a Lvl 20 Torgue Shotgun up till about Lvl 40 because I simply couldn't find anything better! Though as time has gone on, I've started stashing 'good' guns of every 5-10 levels or so for other characters which helps here, a lot!

3) Eh... Shotguns tend to be the 'better' gun to wield at high levels. A specific shotgun, Conference Call, is widely regarded as the best gun in the game and is the go-to gun for Gunzerkers and Mechromancers especially.


Tels wrote:

Sunderstone, you'll be happy to know that, while Torgue's campaign seems arena-y at first, it really isn't. There's only a couple of 'wave' fights in it at all! (Though one of the wave fights is endlessly repeatable)

There are a total of 3 wave fights in the original game, Fink's Slauhterhouse, the Hyperion Zoo in the Wildlife Exchange (need a DLC for it or a pre-order copy), and the Hyperion one in the Eridium Blight (same area as Mal, the robot).

<snip>

3) Eh... Shotguns tend to be the 'better' gun to wield at high levels. A specific shotgun, Conference Call, is widely regarded as the best gun in the game and is the go-to gun for Gunzerkers and Mechromancers especially.

Thanks for the arena-esque info, and I'll keep a lookout for the Conference Call. :)

I've seen a few promising shotguns on paper, a fire one and the Core AI quest turn in, but in Fink's Slaughterhouse (specifically Wave 3) I all but wrote them off as viable weapons in close quarters. They never seemed to do enough (damage per ammo ratio).
Is the Conference Call elemental?


They can be elemental.

RE: Guns:
- Assault rifles are derp EXCEPT Torgues and maybe one or two oranges (haven't gotten those yet). Just like BL1 really. They just don't hold a candle to the other automatics. The decent Torgue AR's are ammo-hungry though, and ammo regen is rare.
- Shotguns... (my favourite) Hyperion shotguns are AWESOME and Torgues are decent for a closerange build. The others are not worth so much. Especially when you can get HYPERION. Conference Call is a Hyperion btw. Another really good shotgun is Moxxi's Heartbreaker (also Hyperion).
- SMG's: I dunno about these... unlike BL1 I find them not as good as pistols. Hyperion SMG's are too slow to get accurate to be good in my experience, otherwise they would be delicious.
- Snipers and pistols are generally good, with only select types being not as great. I don't like the revolvers but I can see how they could be decent.
- Rocket launchers are finally useful, and well-balanced with the limited ammo. That was a good move.

Qua brands I find Dahl almost completely worthless (specials can be decent). The bursts are too inaccurate to be good. Recoil is too much of a factor. You can make some nasty builds with Tediore and the reload-bombs, but it isn't my cup of tea.

Hipfire with Hyperion shotguns and pistols is just too good. It ends up my staple for everything not-sniper/closerange. I love gunzerking with two Hyperion pistols. I even dig the Hyperion snipers even though the first shot is hard to get on target.

I cry inside cause I expected the rotating-barrel guns to be awesome but they are not. I have always loved gatling guns in any game.


I got BL2 for Christmas. I DL'd the Mechromancer DLC immediately and began play. Deathtrap is what Bloodwing should have been in the first game. The perfect Oh S~&*! button. Tons of fun so far...


The Jacobs miniguns boggle the mind. Semi-automatic minigun wut?

I really like the Dahl sniper rifles. I currently have one that's fairly high damage for its level and has a FIVE ROUND BURST! :D

There's very little it doesn't kill if all five go into the target, and it gets even more hilarious with maximum Anarchy. That's five ridiculously powerful shots that are going somewhere.


The E-Tech Submachine guns (of which I have several) are the best of their kind. The Legendary Submachine Guns that I've come across just can't compare to the E-tech ones.

Of the pistols, for me? There are only three choices, Hyperion or Vladof for rapid fire and accuracy (eventually in the case of Hyperion) or a Jacobs Revolver. I have both a Maggie Legendary Jacobs Revlover, and an Infinity Vladof Pistol (that one was a B**** to farm!).

For snipers I prefer Vladof, Maliwan or Jacobs. I dislike Dahl because I like conserving ammo with snipers, and I don't like Hyperion for that first shot.

Assault rifles, it's either Vladof or a good Torgue for me. I found a good Unique Vladof assault rifle with my Mechromancer that is just boss with her set up (it shoots 3 bullets at a time, each is electric).

Shotguns are Hyperion or Torgue as a preference. As I'm leveling up, I will sometimes use Jacobs if it's got a good enough reload speed and damage, but Hyperion and Torgue are the best, with Hyperion being the preference.

I despise bandit guns, with the exception of the LMG/Gatling versions. Huge clip, good damage, and amazing for suppressing people. Take a Mechro with close enough and just spray and pray. I've seen a Gunzerker dual wield these.... my god, bodies.. just everywhere...


Tels wrote:
and an Infinity Vladof Pistol (that one was a B**** to farm!).

I got a vladof infinity pistol on my first playthrough with Gaige. Man, that gun lasted well into the 30s before starting to show its' age.

Vladof pistols are fantastic.

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