Gaseous Form + Swallowed Whole


Rules Questions


1) Can the creature still swallow you while in Gaseous form?

2) If you are inside the creature and you turn Gaseous what happens?

Gaseous Form:

School transmutation; Level alchemist 3, bard 3, magus 3, sorcerer/wizard 3; Domain air 3

CASTING

Casting Time 1 standard action
Components S, M/DF (a bit of gauze and a wisp of smoke)

EFFECT

Range touch
Target willing corporeal creature touched
Duration 2 min./level (D)
Saving Throw none; Spell Resistance no

[This content was created for the Pathfinder rules by Paizo Publishing LLC and is part of the Pathfinder RPG product line.]
By the way...
A creature in gaseous form does not move with a ship.

Source Skull & Shackles Player's Guide

DESCRIPTION

The subject and all its gear become insubstantial, misty, and translucent. Its material armor (including natural armor) becomes worthless, though its size, Dexterity, deflection bonuses, and armor bonuses from force effects still apply. The subject gains DR 10/magic and becomes immune to poison, sneak attacks, and critical hits. It can't attack or cast spells with verbal, somatic, material, or focus components while in gaseous form. This does not rule out the use of certain spells that the subject may have prepared using the feats Silent Spell, Still Spell, and Eschew Materials. The subject also loses supernatural abilities while in gaseous form. If it has a touch spell ready to use, that spell is discharged harmlessly when the gaseous form spell takes effect.

A gaseous creature can't run, but it can fly at a speed of 10 feet and automatically succeeds on all Fly skill checks. It can pass through small holes or narrow openings, even mere cracks, with all it was wearing or holding in its hands, as long as the spell persists. The creature is subject to the effects of wind, and it can't enter water or other liquid. It also can't manipulate objects or activate items, even those carried along with its gaseous form. Continuously active items remain active, though in some cases their effects may be moot.

Swallow Whole (Ex):

If a creature with this special attack begins its turn with an opponent grappled in its mouth (see Grab), it can attempt a new combat maneuver check (as though attempting to pin the opponent). If it succeeds, it swallows its prey, and the opponent takes bite damage. Unless otherwise noted, the opponent can be up to one size category Smaller than the swallowing creature. Being swallowed causes a creature to take damage each round. The amount and type of damage varies and is given in the creature’s Statistics. A swallowed creature keeps the grappled condition, while the creature that did the swallowing does not. A swallowed creature can try to cut its way free with any light slashing or piercing weapon (the amount of cutting damage required to get free is equal to 1/10 the creature’s total hit points), or it can just try to escape the grapple. The Armor Class of the interior of a creature that swallows whole is normally 10 + 1/2 its natural armor bonus, with no modifiers for size or Dexterity. If a swallowed creature cuts its way out, the swallowing creature cannot use swallow whole again until the damage is healed. If the swallowed creature escapes the grapple, success puts it back in the attacker’s mouth, where it may be bitten or swallowed again.

Format: swallow whole (5d6 acid damage, AC 15, 18 hp); Location: Special Attacks.

3) If you can escape while in Gaseous Form can you instead go though the nostril and thus avoid being swallowed again?


I'm not going to cite any rules here, just opinions. Hopefully the DM doesn't have a negative wisdom modifier, and can thusly form a soft interpretation the mechanics. :)

1) No, unless it has some ability (magical or otherwise) that specifically allows it to.
2) Hopefully you float out of the creature's mouth or nose, as you suggested in question 3.
3) Sure.


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harmor wrote:
1) Can the creature still swallow you while in Gaseous form?

No, but you could be inhaled by a sufficiently large creature.

harmor wrote:
2) If you are inside the creature and you turn Gaseous what happens?

You have a choice of two exits. Hope for a burp.

harmor wrote:
3) If you can escape while in Gaseous Form can you instead go though the nostril and thus avoid being swallowed again?

I would assume so.

All in all, though, it's more fun to drink a potion of tree-shape if you get swallowed.


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"There's only one way to truly know everything you know..."
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"I'm going... to smoke you."

A creature with Swallow Whole has to "grapple you with its mouth" and while in gaseous form you are insubstantial. The spell doesn't specifically state 'immune to grapple,' but it may as well. So barring any person-sized hookahs, I'd say no.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Grappling VS Gaseous Form has been discussed before.

We FAQ'd the hell out of it, to which staff marked it as "no response required." *rolls eyes*

However, SKR was kind enough to later state the following:

Sean K Reynolds wrote:
...You can't grapple a gaseous creature, that's obvious and we shouldn't need to state that in the rules. If a gaseous creature can slip through any crack because it's gaseous, it can easily slip through the gaps between your fingers or arms.

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