I must say the expansion has been enjoyable so far. Horde side quests are fun and varied, I really enjoyed the FPS quest chain. My disc/shadow priest is 87 ATM in the Valley of Four Winds. The Temple and Brewery dungeons have been fun too.
My only issue is the sever my mains are on. Area 52 remains overloaded and locked with que times at night reaching 1500+. Last night I transferred my Resto Shammy (3rd fave toon) back to Garrosh Alliance because of the que ($55 faction/server xfer fee). I'll be there during the eves until it all balances out.
The alliance quests are similar of course but it's always fun seeing the other side's take on things.
Overall, WoW has been fun again. The only "meh" expansion for me was Lich King and the beginning of Cataclysm (but only because of the healing changes in the beginning of Cata). Cataclysm, once the healing classes went semi-back to normal was epic. I loved the changes to the old world and the return of Ragnaros pre-nerf. Dragon Soul was another uninspired ToC though, imho.
MoP's art and setting are wonderful two zones in so far. Quests are varied and fun, the loot system seems like its changed as my priests quest rewards seem to only be stuff I can use now, no more junk like swords, etc. I'm waiting for the better loot. So far as a previously 402 Priest, I have only swapped out 3 pieces but I have much better enchants on my old gear. ;(
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Btw, anyone else on Area 52 Horde or Garrosh alliance?
Yeah, I'm not going back. Pandaren were never supposed to be a serious part of the lore, and now that they made them canon, I want no part in the World of Warcraft. I'll be happy playing something else, mainly Skyrim, D&D 3.5e and some Pathfinder with side dishes of GURPS and Dark Heresy.
I love the Warcraft setting, the characters, nearly all the races (yes including Pandaren, the ones I mainly can't stand are the elves), and much of the storylines. But I just can't stand the top end of WoW. Endless grinding, endless raiding, dailies, and most of all the utter demand for "be up to this par or you're useless".
I'd probably still play it if it were free, as it can be fun to just run around and smash things from time to time, and there were some quests that despite their monotony I enjoyed. (There's a reason every single on of my characters who managed to get fast flight always ended up on the Netherdrake island in Outland - for some inexplicable reason I loved those stupid little quests. Plus the drakes look cool. And dragon racing!) But with free play capped at level 20 and $15/month beyond that, no thanks.
I quit WoW at the tail end of BC and, as of last month, replaced it with LotRO. No intention of going back to WoW, despite my heavy involvement in it.
Oldschoolers may remember me from the forums as Tarana in the Priest section. I miss my sticky thread. >.>
I thought there was already a Kung Fu Panda video game or two out?
:P
And yah, i'm not going back, but not because of the inclusion of our drunken panda friends.
Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.
I thought that username looked familiar.
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I'm not. I played the beta for Pandaria and actually enjoyed the Pandas, the monk class and had a lot of fun exploring the starter zone. What I didn't like was the continued dumbing down of the game, from the new Talent "Tree" to getting rid of the trainers to even getting rid of the need for gathering tools and other tweaks they made that I can't think of at the moment. I don't know...it just rubbed me the wrong way and left a bad taste in my mouth.
I miss vanilla WoW when warlocks and pallys had to quest for their mounts and other classes had specific class quests what would net an item or armor or something. Now everything just get's handed to you...
Damn kids...
Get off my lawn!!!
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Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.I thought that username looked familiar.
You were on Firetree? And you knew of my hunter? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? :)
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Throw me on the "ugh, never going back" wagon.
Raise your hand if you're eagerly awaiting the advent of Pathfinder Online...
Daron Woodson
Abandoned Arts
You were on Firetree? And you knew of my hunter? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? :)Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.I thought that username looked familiar.
Nah, but unless there happens to be the coincidence of someone ELSE running around with an elf hunter named Cylyria, I knew her back when she was a Drow ;)
Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.
I swear the biggest mistake Blizzard made was faction change.
Actually the worst mistake came before that, when they allowed Horde to get Pallies and gave the alliance shammies. All classes get nerfed and buffed continuously, the list isn't specific to Hunters. I stopped playing my Lock in BGs from the day they redid Siphon Life and gave just about every class ways of breaking fear. I went Disc in Cata because of the severe Holy nerf, now they are buffed again.
Population imbalances are harder to deal with, to this I say grab a one way transfer ticket after you research a destination server like I did. Area 52 is a hotbed of activity where you could have pugged 8/8 Heroic DS if you wanted to. I was tired of dead horde servers. Ques are long now with Pandaria all shiny, but the server is very progressive, it'll go bac to normal in a week or two. Until then I'll level my alliance toon on a lower pop server in the eves, weekend days or days off I'll return to my main. Or I can sit in a 27 min que.
Actually the worst mistake came before that, when they allowed Horde to get Pallies and gave the alliance shammies.Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.
I swear the biggest mistake Blizzard made was faction change.
This I have to disagree strongly with, if only because my two mains were a Draenei Shaman and Paladin, and damn that Shaman was fun. Love me some Enhancement.
I liked the space goats. The only non-Draenei character I played for any appreciable amount of time was a Worgen Mage; otherwise I also had a DK and a Hunter who never got really anywhere.
Meh, that was the start of everyone being the same in WoW. I liked that Shamans were only a horde perk, same with Alliance Paladins. I can see Belf Pallies, Dwarf Shammies... Not so much. Dranei race sucks in general flavor-wise. Bad pvp racials compared to Horde started the faction transfer madness.
Dranei race sucks in general flavor-wise.
Meh, again have to disagree. But to each their own. Meh on Dwarves and I don't like Elves.
Bad pvp racials compared to Horde started the faction transfer madness.
I didn't PvP so I couldn't care less on this ;)
I have gone back to see what's up. I'm playing a Pandaren Brewmaster monk atm, and he is hella fun. The male Pandaren dance is pretty good, too.
I have gone back to see what's up. I'm playing a Pandaren Brewmaster monk atm, and he is hella fun. The male Pandaren dance is pretty good, too.
I play all healers. Priest, Druid, Shaman, Pally in that order. My Holy pally is my newest 85 and boring as heck imho. I'm dying to level a Monk healer but my 87 Priest takes priority to a new toon because I want to be raid ready. My Resto/Elem Shammy might be 90 90 by then too because of the server situation on Area 52. Then there's my Resto Druid that I need because of Jewelcrafting, my priest is Enchanting and those 2 always go together.
The Healy Monk is looking to be a long ways off.The Panda dance is cool, my 85 Shammy is a new Panda ATM. That's the first thing I did setting foot in Stormwind.
I went Disc in Cata because of the severe Holy nerf, now they are buffed again.
What was the major nerf, aside from the overall changes to regen? I healed heroics and raids as Holy and didn't really notice any major problems. (Was mostly a raidwide healer with assistance on the tank rather than a tank healer, though.)
LOL I turned my shaman into a panda as well. Wuzhen!
I play on eldre'thalas, alliance side.
My finacee is playing a mistweaver (healer) monk. She says so far it's 'only one button!!!' But, we just dinged 20. She does like the 'i hurt you and heal my allies' aspect of it. Reminds me of the disciple of khaine from WAR.
Also, I have an 85 DK, Hunter, and pally. I hate healing, most of my toons are set up for DPS. The DK (can be) and the Monk will be the tanks. I leveled up the pally to be prot, but I find taking on the DK to be easier. I'm gonna work on the monk, then when that's 60 or so, and the new areas have calmed down, work on getting my upper end guys to 90. My guild isn't a serious raiding guild, so I can take my time.
I re-subbed as well, wanting to see all the new stuff. By and large I play for an hour or so an evening just to "veg out" and relax more than anything else.
I played a monk to level 7 two nights ago, it's been fun so far and the new zone is incredibly gorgeous. Since it's only level 7, there are few abilities to try out so that will have to wait on that. I'm really not looking forward to the post-60 level grind of Outland, Northrend, and Cataclysm.
I have an 85 priest, 85 warrior, 80 DK, 50-ish rogue, and 20-ish druid. My plan is to level the warrior, death knight, and priest to 90 before doing so with the monk since the higher-level chars have most of my professions and doing the MoP quests with three characters in a row will be a huge burn-out on those quests so having other content to play in for a while will be fun. On the other hand, I have very little time to play: I don't expect to get my warrior to 90 before Thanksgiving. That may help extend the burn-out time even further.
With all that in mind, I started playing my 85 warrior last night: did a few quests and upgraded both of my weapons (fury warrior) which was fantastic... just need to upgrade the other 12 slots from Cataclysm-level questing gear. He never even got his item level high enough to do Cataclysm Heroics lol
I forgot to train the new level of mining before I left, so I wasn't able to tap the new veins the few times I saw one. I've been tempted to buy the new bars and jump-start my blacksmithing to help my warrior's gear out but with the "random enchants" I'm likely better off buying what someone else crafted with all the stats I want on them... or taking a few evenings to just ride around and mine. I still need Cataclysm ores to get my jewelcrafting from 486 to 500, so maybe I'll do that over the next night or two: there should be much less competition for ores in Twilight Highlands now!
I went Disc in Cata because of the severe Holy nerf, now they are buffed again.What was the major nerf, aside from the overall changes to regen? I healed heroics and raids as Holy and didn't really notice any major problems. (Was mostly a raidwide healer with assistance on the tank rather than a tank healer, though.)
It was more of an unofficial Nerf.
I say nerf because the difference was huge, 4k+ HPS as Disc over Holy. The official blizzard Healer forums were on fire about the weak heals (putting us behind Shamans who were at the bottom during Cata release), and it looked like everyone was abandoning Holy Priest on the servers I was on, also Im told that log-wise, Holy was non-existant. My Greater Heals (self buffed) would crit for 65k as Holy, while as Disc I would top 100K, I noticed a 153K during a Heroic DS raid, that was something I knew I wouldnt see had I remained Holy.Heroic dungeons were easy to heal with any toon. Raid-wise, the difference was VERY noticable via Recount. Now my GM raves about Holy as they finally have caught up to Disc, shame they missed the entire expansion though.
I have a discipline priestess now, I've tried the new discipline spec from 5.0+ and, damn. She does more damage and healing than in shadow form (they now have a glyph that allows you to use heals in shadow form; the boomkin have a similar glyph. Also, it seems most classes now have a some form of rez.)
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Nah, but unless there happens to be the coincidence of someone ELSE running around with an elf hunter named Cylyria, I knew her back when she was a Drow ;)You were on Firetree? And you knew of my hunter? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? :)Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.I thought that username looked familiar.
A drow? I ran a drow named Cylyria on the Neverwinter Nights server I used to play on. That's prolly been 7 or 8 years now.
I left after doing the first caverns of time quest in burning crusade. Bashing through an empty northrend and an empty azeroth and kalimdor sounds like about as much fun as beating my skull against a wall somewhere boring. No thank you.
No plans to come back for me. I've been playing on and off since shortly after launch and the last time I tried, I just couldn't get into it again. Too many reasons to list.
I've been playing since launch and have quit three times. My longest hiatus has been 4 months.
I like MMORPGs, but the two things I hate are farming and grinding, so I don't do it. I love the questing, leveling alts, and I'm a die hard fan of the raid dynamic (no more than 2x/week and never on weekends). I still look forward to my raid nights with a good tight knit 10m group. I don't sign up for 25m.I can see some people getting bored, I've been there myself and I've tried to get into others like Rift, GW2, and SW:TOR (I had reeeeaaally high hopes for SW:TOR). Overall, I've always managed to find my way back to WoW and for $15/month, I'll keep it running as I spend more than that most of the time on my lunch for one day.
After we catch up with the new raid content, things will slow again and knock out other games on my shelf, etc.
@Kryzbyn
My panda Shammy is named "Takeout". :P
I left about a year and a half ago and I've got no plans to go back. The endless grinding for gear just isn't fun. I got to a point where all I could do to get better gear was to get into large group raids, which sucks. The planning and endless hours of waiting for some tank or healer blows. Basically the game just stopped being fun.
Agree with TCG 100%, though I usually play from a PvP standpoint... and the issue is the same.
Time = Gear = Dominance (at least over anyone who can't log an equal number of hours).
Skill only really came into play at the very low-level and low-geared PvP matches or teh very top-tier ones.
Btw cross-realm 10m raiding is live. Just an FYI for those not aware. My guild filled two spots once with buddies on Fenris. It's easy to assemble raids now without having to fill 25.
Btw cross-realm 10m raiding is live. Just an FYI for those not aware. My guild filled two spots once with buddies on Fenris. It's easy to assemble raids now without having to fill 25.
Even so I would guess that getting that's many people to cooperate is like herding cats.
Easy as pie with Ventrilo. We went 6/8 Heroic that night with 3 of the group that never did DS on heroic.
Agree with Eben about PvP. I haven't really done any since season 2 waaaaay back. TBH, Pvp in WoW takes no skill. It's all in rotations and macros. If you want real Pvp skill, I always say "stick to FPS games". WoW Pvp has no reaction speed, aiming, dodging, etc involved.
During the season 2 days with my guildpal on his Shadow Priest, and me on my affliction Lock (pre-Siphon nerf) with Succubus, would just stand midfield in Warsong Gulch and kill everything trying to get by. Between so many fear bombs and an occasional pally seduction and emergency heal, we decimated the kill charts and won many games.
Good Times back then but little skill involved if you know the classes and their limitations.
I loved Pvp on my warlock when it was overpowered. :-) DOOM!!!
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Cross realm raiding, in my opinion, is a bigger joke than cross realm dungeons. The fights are knocked down to barely be a challenge, and yet people still do nothing but complain about each other. I actually prefered the dungeons last time I went back, since at least there people didn't talk. The "OMG NOOBZORZ KICK NAO NOTT ENUF DPS NEED 9KJIGGERWATTZ OR LOLZ!" talk in raid chat was very irritating. I managed to get into several non-lfr raids though, and that was at least pleasant.
If any of my friends still played it, I'd consider going back just to form a guild with them. But as it stands, not going to happen.
I prefer not to pug raids myself, unless it's mature players I know from the sever. If not 10m cross realm raiding is awesome, whatever spots are not filled we can go through friends from other severs.
Cross realm raiding, in my opinion, is a bigger joke than cross realm dungeons. The fights are knocked down to barely be a challenge, and yet people still do nothing but complain about each other.
I don't think he's talking about "Looking For Raid." It sounds like it's the cross-realm raiding where you actively select the individuals that you're raiding with.
Btw cross-realm 10m raiding is live. Just an FYI for those not aware. My guild filled two spots once with buddies on Fenris. It's easy to assemble raids now without having to fill 25.Even so I would guess that getting that's many people to cooperate is like herding cats.
40 was herding cats. 25 is much more manageable.
A drow? I ran a drow named Cylyria on the Neverwinter Nights server I used to play on. That's prolly been 7 or 8 years now.Nah, but unless there happens to be the coincidence of someone ELSE running around with an elf hunter named Cylyria, I knew her back when she was a Drow ;)You were on Firetree? And you knew of my hunter? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? :)Not going back. Reasons why include the total mishandling of hunter issues, the server imbalances that my old server (Firetree) was plagued with, and anything having to do with Pandas.I thought that username looked familiar.
Yep. This is Edge. =)
Yeah, I'm not going back. Pandaren were never supposed to be a serious part of the lore, and now that they made them canon, I want no part in the World of Warcraft. I'll be happy playing something else, mainly Skyrim, D&D 3.5e and some Pathfinder with side dishes of GURPS and Dark Heresy.
This. Stupid pandas.
I also didn't like that they did major balance changes every 4 months. One minute you'd be awesome and then the next, not so awesome. Also didn't like that every class could heal.
I might check out DDO or Skyrim casually.
I had a lot of fun playing that game as Blastenheim the Gnome Mage and Thorkhandor the Tauren Warrior between 2005 and 2011. I started out in Argent Dawn, then moved to Blackwater Raider, and then finally Moon Guard. But somewhere through Cataclysm I just couldn't keep logging back in.
I have nothing in particular against Pandaren (I mean, in a game filled with bear people, wolf people, serpent people, walruss people, fish people, rat people, space goat people, bird people, dragon people, bug people, horse people, mammoth people, moose people, four-legged tiger people, pig people, undead pig people, gas mummy people, sort-of-troglodite-but-actually-deformed-dwarf people and so on, you'd really be hard pressed to feel panda people out of place. If anything, it's people people the one sort of in the way!), but while I'm very intrigued to see what changed have been brought, I know I'll stop playing in a couple of weeks.
Plus I'm currently invested in Guild Wars II.
Still, I hope you guys are having a lot of fun. I know I did with WoW, and for that I'll be forever grateful of that game.
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Cross realm raiding, in my opinion, is a bigger joke than cross realm dungeons. The fights are knocked down to barely be a challenge, and yet people still do nothing but complain about each other.I don't think he's talking about "Looking For Raid." It sounds like it's the cross-realm raiding where you actively select the individuals that you're raiding with.
Ah, my mistake then. That would be acceptable addition in my opinion then. A pretty good one in fact. Had a few friends on different servers. Ended up having a spattering of characters on several servers just to play with them all at times. (Stonemaul, Emerald Dream, Hakkar, Twisting Nether, Shadowmoon, and Aggramar).
Don't worry I'm sure Paizo will come up with a race of panda folk soon..favoured class Monk off course.
After all they seem to be intent on making us play..Goblins..and Vampires..and Kobolds so why not Kung Fu Pandas
Yes I'm getting bitter about this.
I've been playing off and on for the past 3 years.
I have not tried the new Pandaria areas.
I have made a Panda shaman - figured the world was too full of Panda monks, but I did make a Night Elf monk and enjoy playing that.
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Don't worry I'm sure Paizo will come up with a race of panda folk soon..favoured class Monk off course.
After all they seem to be intent on making us play..Goblins..and Vampires..and Kobolds so why not Kung Fu Pandas
Yes I'm getting bitter about this.
Go play your Human-only games elsewhere.
Pathfinder and D&D have always been varied when it comes to races.
"Die, monster! You don't belong in this world!!" (Cookie to those who get the reference)
None of this means that I approve of the Pandaren, though. I still think they are killing the lore.
After all they seem to be intent on making us play..Goblins..and Vampires..and Kobolds so why not Kung Fu Pandas
'Making us'? I'd say 'offering us' would be a better way of putting it. :)
I stopped the raids and even most of the dungeons in early Lich King. They can be fun if you have a group of friends (or even friendly strangers) to play with, but without those things, gear with bigger numbers just didn't appeal to me. Especially since the major purpose of better gear was to keep doing more dungeons.
I enjoyed questing and leveling characters through WotLK, but I didn't enjoy the railroad questing of Cataclysm, very much. There was little challenge to it, the copious cut scenes were melodramatic and (I feel) aimed at a much younger audience, and the phasing mechanic made it difficult to interact with other players.
Is the questing in MoP the same as it was in Cataclysm?