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Divine casters in Pathfinder Campaign Setting


Pathfinder Campaign Setting General Discussion


In the Pathfinder Chronicles campaign setting, do divine caster's like clerics have to to choice a specific good?

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion Subscriber

I assume you mean "God" not "good", if so:

Clerics = yes
Oracles = no


Gorbacz wrote:

I assume you mean "God" not "good", if so:

Clerics = yes
Oracles = no

Yes, I did. what about inquisitors or druids?. I do believe druids cab just worship nature itself.

Andoran

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Gorbacz wrote:

I assume you mean "God" not "good", if so:

Clerics = yes
Oracles = no

Druids = No

Inquisitors = No
Paladins = No (But if they do they have to be within one step of them)
Rangers = No


Paul Watson wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

I assume you mean "God" not "good", if so:

Clerics = yes
Oracles = no

Druids = No

Inquisitors = No
Paladins = No (But if they do they have to be within one step of them)
Rangers = No

Thank you both for your answers.


Paul Watson wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

I assume you mean "God" not "good", if so:

Clerics = yes
Oracles = no

Druids = No

Inquisitors = No
Paladins = No (But if they do they have to be within one step of them)
Rangers = No

That "no" seems strange in the case of Inquisitor. I have always assumed they need a god in Golarion just like the clerics do.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber
Alaryth wrote:
Paul Watson wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

I assume you mean "God" not "good", if so:

Clerics = yes
Oracles = no

Druids = No

Inquisitors = No
Paladins = No (But if they do they have to be within one step of them)
Rangers = No
That "no" seems strange in the case of Inquisitor. I have always assumed they need a god in Golarion just like the clerics do.

Especially since they kind of fill the "paladin" slot for faiths that can't have paladins or anti-paladins, like Pharasma or Gozreh.

Shadow Lodge

Inquisitors can be Inquisitors of a faction or group like the Aspis Consortium, Whispering Way, or whatever, not have a Patron Deity, and still get all Class Features and Spells. It's just not common. In PFS, only Clerics require a Patron Deity.

This was done to keep Clerics from "cherry picking" Domains, though Druids, Oracles, and other classes can also get Domains, and have free reign to "cherry pick", including Travel/Liberation which are known as the best Domains. Heck, the Urban Druid can even spont cast Domain spells, and no Cleric can, so thumbs up to logic, there.

:)

Silver Crusade

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Beckett wrote:

Inquisitors can be Inquisitors of a faction or group like the Aspis Consortium, Whispering Way, or whatever, not have a Patron Deity, and still get all Class Features and Spells. It's just not common. In PFS, only Clerics require a Patron Deity.

This was done to keep Clerics from "cherry picking" Domains, though Druids, Oracles, and other classes can also get Domains, and have free reign to "cherry pick", including Travel/Liberation which are known as the best Domains. Heck, the Urban Druid can even spont cast Domain spells, and no Cleric can, so thumbs up to logic, there.

:)

The strongest class in the game doesn't need any more perks than it already has.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion Subscriber

I suppose that's true, though being a fanatical money worshiper seems more like the Prophets of Kalistrade than the Aspis Consortium.

Shadow Lodge

Gorbacz wrote:
Beckett wrote:

Inquisitors can be Inquisitors of a faction or group like the Aspis Consortium, Whispering Way, or whatever, not have a Patron Deity, and still get all Class Features and Spells. It's just not common. In PFS, only Clerics require a Patron Deity.

This was done to keep Clerics from "cherry picking" Domains, though Druids, Oracles, and other classes can also get Domains, and have free reign to "cherry pick", including Travel/Liberation which are known as the best Domains. Heck, the Urban Druid can even spont cast Domain spells, and no Cleric can, so thumbs up to logic, there.

:)

The strongest class in the game doesn't need any more perks than it already has.

I know right, they aught to just ban all Druid Archtypes, if not the entire Druid class. . . Maybe the Wizard/Sorcerer, Summoner, and then Bard, too.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion Subscriber
Beckett wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Beckett wrote:

Inquisitors can be Inquisitors of a faction or group like the Aspis Consortium, Whispering Way, or whatever, not have a Patron Deity, and still get all Class Features and Spells. It's just not common. In PFS, only Clerics require a Patron Deity.

This was done to keep Clerics from "cherry picking" Domains, though Druids, Oracles, and other classes can also get Domains, and have free reign to "cherry pick", including Travel/Liberation which are known as the best Domains. Heck, the Urban Druid can even spont cast Domain spells, and no Cleric can, so thumbs up to logic, there.

:)

The strongest class in the game doesn't need any more perks than it already has.
I know right, they aught to just ban all Druid Archtypes, if not the entire Druid class. . . Maybe the Wizard/Sorcerer, Summoner, and then Bard, too.

I'm still amazed how your class tribalism prevents you from seeing how powerful Clerics were in 3.5 and still are.

I mean, if you were going on about Monks or Rogues, sure, but...

Shadow Lodge

They where ok. I'd say lowest on the upper "tier" crap of classes, if you min/maxed the crap out of them, and didn't other classes.

It's not at all about Class Tribalism. I also love the Paladin, and think that Paizo went way, way too far in buffing it. Same with the Bard, and yet didn't touch the actual main offenders like the Druid or Wizard. Like I said, even less balance and just shifted the problems around.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Campaign Setting, Card Game, Companion Subscriber
Beckett wrote:

They where ok. I'd say lowest on the upper "tier" crap of classes, if you min/maxed the crap out of them, and didn't other classes.

It's not at all about Class Tribalism. I also love the Paladin, and think that Paizo went way, way too far in buffing it. Same with the Bard, and yet didn't touch the actual main offenders like the Druid or Wizard. Like I said, even less balance and just shifted the problems around.

Paladin was a laughably weak class in 3.5ed. What Paizo did is bring him to what he actually was supposed to be, read: efficient divine fighter. Instead of, you know, Cleric, which was better than Paladin in every possible way in 3.5e.

Druid: wildshape nerfed. That's all what was needed. You seem to have a strange idea of balance, likely from reading too much Internets and playing the game too little :)


Beckett wrote:
This was done to keep Clerics from "cherry picking" Domains, though Druids, Oracles, and other classes can also get Domains, and have free reign to "cherry pick", including Travel/Liberation which are known as the best Domains. Heck, the Urban Druid can even spont cast Domain spells, and no Cleric can, so thumbs up to logic, there.

Druids can't cherry pick through domains, they have a very specific list of domains they can select from and neither Travel nor Liberation are on the list (Air, Animal, Earth, Fire, Plant, Water, or Weather *and* specific animal and terrain domains for core druid).

Urban Druid gets to cast his domain spells spontaneously! Oh, no he can spontaneously cast spells from one of: Charm, Community, Knowledge, Nobility, Protection, Repose, Rune, or Weather!

Shadow Lodge

And different Archtypes open up more. There is one that offers Travel and Liberation, I want to say its a Varisia themed one.


Yeah, but if you have to select specific archetype to gain access to domain you want then it isn't cherry picking.

Shadow Lodge

Cherry picking means getting the best options without regard for the fluff or intent.


Then we operate on a bit different ranges of cherry picking:
I say that if to select desirable option you are forced to take another option then it goes a bit beyond the cherry-picking as then you are not free to make all the choices you want, but it is a matter for another discussion.

Also note that the Druid access to domains is determined by the class/archetype fluff.

Shadow Lodge

I'm refering specifically to the game/issue at hand with Cherry Pickng. Clerics can not just pick two concepts they want, they have to pick a patron then take from a small handful of options. Keep in mid that this is over 1/3 of their entire Class Feature options.

Druids, who instead get all kinds of things besides, also have optins that completely bypass all the Cleric's restrictions, and options to even use them better than the Cleric, not to mention adding a lot of spells that they normally do not get to their already better spell list.

:)

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