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Top Ten Super Villains


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Cheliax

As you can probably see, this is the same as the super heroes thing, but with villains. I don't know about you guys, but for me this is a bit harder than the super heroes. I suspect that the top names will be like Joker, Lex, Dr Doom and Ultron but still.

1. Joker
2. Doctor Doom
3. Riddler
4. Magneto
5. Green Goblin
6. Mad Hatter
7. Venom
8. Dr. Octopus
9. Penguin
10. Galactus

Still there are villains that I could have putted on the list, such as Loki, Scarecrow, Elektro, Hecate and Bane.

Aaand go!

Osirion

Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber

Alphabetically:

Bane
Brainiac
Doomsday
Dr Doom
Fatal Five
Joker
Lex Luther (Pre 1985)
Magneto
Red Skull
Venom


1) Von Doom #1

2) I agree with the pre-crisis Luthor.

He wasn't such a total murderous megalomaniac in the old days.

Just a super-genius with a mad, total, all consuming hate for the Man of Steel. Brought on by Superboy being responsible for his... hair loss.

He even had a few moments where he cared for others. Heck he was the superhero of a whole other planet, Lexor.

And the originality and implausibility of some of his anti-Superman plans are the stuff of legends.

3) Brainiac (the pre-crisis android one)

4) Kingpin. He's been the main opponent of several heroes over the years. Just interesting where you can take him, a lot of philosophy and story angles that lasted many issues have come with him.

5) Doctor Sivana. He is the acknowledged master mold for mad scientists.

6) Darkseid

7) Thanos (okay he's a poor imitation of Darkseid, but he belongs)

8) Galactus, sometimes you just need an all-powerful planet eater, and no one has ever done it better.

9) Several spidey villains go here I think. Lizard, Doc Ock, Kraven the Hunter, Green Goblin, Scorpion, Mysterio. Ol' Peter has racked up the enemies over the years.

10) Flash's Rogue Gallery. Whether solo, or as a team, the best bunch of second raters to ever hold your attention. Mirror Master, Reverse Flash, Captain Cold, Heat Wave, Captain Boomerang, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, Trickster, Abra Kadabra, Gorilla Grodd. They all had personalities and motivations (however stupid) even in the old days. And most of them weren't murderous psychopaths.

I think Heat Wave actually started his villain career as some kind of whacky scheme to impress girls.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

Hmm...

Given the caveat that my DC choices are all pre-reboot.
10)Mr. Freeze - Tragic villian by necessity
9) Sinestro
8) The Rogues
7) Ultron
6) Ra's Algul
5) Thanos
4) Apocalypse
3) Dr. Doom
2) Magneto
1) The Secret Six. I have to call them villians, but the people they oppose are so much worse...

I've a soft spot for 'ideological villians' vs 'randon crazy' villians like the Joker.


sunbeam wrote:

1) Von Doom #1

Absolutely!! Victor von Doom is not to be compared to lesser men!

GRU


1. Joker
2. Luthor
3. Darkseid
4. Sentinels
5. Magneto
6. Violator (spawn)
7. Doom
8. Apocalypse (espcially age of version)
9. Kingpin
10.The governor (Its a character in WD comics)

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

Some of my favorites in no particular order...

Tomas de Torquemada (from Nemesis the Warlock)
Milkman Dan (from Red Meat, also somehow one of my favorite heroes)
Harvey Rupert Elder aka Mole Man
Donnie Gill aka Blizzard (this guy embodies the working-class super villain)
Typhoid Mary
Baron Helmut Zemo
Crossbones
A.I.M. (the entire organization, including M.O.D.O.K.)
Kl'rt aka Super-Skrull
Fin Fang Foom (with purple shorts)


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10.Doom
09.Doom
08.Doom
07.Doom
06.Doom
05.Doom
04.Doom

03.DOOM
02.DOOM

01.DOOM!!!


1. Thanos
2. Darth Vader
3. Doctor Doom
4. Doomsday (first time around anyway)
5. Darkseid
6. Deadshot (Ok he's a bush league villian/anti-hero, but oh so cool)
7. Deathstroke- for same reasons as Deadshot
8. The Joker (Heath Ledger's or Mark Hamill's are best incarnations imho)
9. Old school Magneto- he was a world shaker once upon a time.
10. The Juggernaut- not much in the master plan department, but he brings the power!


The trouble I have with this list is that a truly villainous bad guy makes me NOT want to see him used because I hate him! By that definition, the villain I most dislike reading is the Joker. Pretty much all the other 'biggies' have a some redeeming quality that peeks through occasionally. I find fascinating the 1986 version of Luthor as well as Doctor Doom, because they are complex individuals. I've always had a soft spot for some lesser bad guys like the original Titanium Man--probably because I liked the stories in TOS that featured him. Who couldn't enjoy the Serpent Society as developed by Mark Gruenwald? And I still like the sentinels as they were in the '60s.


This is before your time, but there was a great two part Hulk story in the 70's with the Cobalt Man.

He was really interesting in that one.

And also in the 70's they had a short run of issues in the Defenders about the Zodiac Society, well one member Scorpio. "Who Remembers Scorpio," it had the very best Moon Knight scene I've ever seen.

Whatever they turned him into later, Moon Knight was really cool in this one.

Scorpio had him trapped in a chamber that was filling with water, and threw him a beer for consolation. The last scene you have with Moon Knight he is leaning against a wall and popping the tab on the beer, as the water comes rushing in.

When Scorpio pumps out the water, Moon Knight isn't there, but he left the can in the middle of the chamber.

Thing about Scorpio, is that he was actually Nick Fury's brother. This is the period where Fury was still a world war two vet. Scorpio had been a total screw up his whole life, fell into crime, and this was his very last chance to make it big.

Andoran

Pathfinder Battles Case Subscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber

I have those Defenders issues. Scorpio was an okay villain. He was probably better written in that story than when they brought him back in the West Coast Avengers stuff.

The Serpent Society is one of my favorite villain teams. Seth Voelker (the original Sidewinder) was the best leader they ever had. I love his model of letting his team do all the heavy lifting and then using his teleportation cloak to just get them and the loot out of lockup if they get caught.

I have never understood the love people have for the Joker though. I just don't get it. He bores the hell out of me. What makes him so compelling to everyone else? What am I missing?


My problem with the Joker is that he has become a force of nature--chaotic and capricious. He was a lot creepier and more menacing in the first years of Batman.

RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8

QXL99 wrote:
The trouble I have with this list is that a truly villainous bad guy makes me NOT want to see him used because I hate him! By that definition, the villain I most dislike reading is the Joker. Pretty much all the other 'biggies' have a some redeeming quality that peeks through occasionally. I find fascinating the 1986 version of Luthor as well as Doctor Doom, because they are complex individuals. I've always had a soft spot for some lesser bad guys like the original Titanium Man--probably because I liked the stories in TOS that featured him. Who couldn't enjoy the Serpent Society as developed by Mark Gruenwald? And I still like the sentinels as they were in the '60s.

I understand. I do want to see 'complex villians' who have goals beyond 'destroy the good guys'. The Secret Six are villians, but they are also villians who are complex. Even Ragdoll, who is as crazy as the Joker, is more entertaining because of his complexity. Peter feels honest sorrow for his sister, and affection for Parademon and even most of the six. Hells, his affection for Black Alice is what drove his betrayal of the Six because he knows the things he's done can't be delt with by a sane mind.

Darkseid is a powerful villian, but boring to me in that he wants to destroy everything. Thanos wants to kill everythng, to impress a girl. He'd be perfectly content with killing a kitten if it made her smile.


1) The Hellfire Club - my personal fave along with my next choice. Each one came back in interesting ways (Pierce in the Mutant Massacre, Emma Frost to lead some X-Teams, etc).
2) Bullseye - The Frank Miller days of Daredevil were among my earliest comic book memories. The whole DD/Elektra/Bullseye story was great. A villain who can turn anything into a weapon, awesome.
3) Joker - What he did to Jason Todd and Barbara Gordon made him legendary.
4) Sinestro - As of the new 52. He was great before and even better now.
5) the Fatal Five - Always a tad missing the mark, potentially epic group of villains. Giffen handled them best so far.
6) Darkseid - obvious reasons. I also like the other characters tied to the Apokolips mythos good and bad.
7) Black Adam - truly bad arse. Still has tremendous potential.
8) Dr. Doom - also obvious reasons.
9) Venom - pre-Carnage. Great concept, poor execution after carnage. Sometimes I wonder why Marvel makes some of the poorest choices imaginable.
10) Just about any Bat villain. Ras Al Ghul, Bane, Catwoman, etc.


10.) Thanos - The Mad Titan and nihilistic lover of Death, falls at number 10 because even creator Jim Starlin admitted he was a knock-off of Kirby villain Darkseid (though he was originally envisioned as an, even more amoral knock off of Metron).
09.) Shiwan Khan - The 1st "Super-Villain," to face the original pulp crime stopper, the Shadow.
08.) Kenny Two-Bear - The Ultimate Henchman (He's worked for Harley, the Joker, Penguin, Calander Man, Two-Face [with his brother Nixon], and the Riddler. Truly a working class villain.
07.) Harley Quinn - A tragic case, someone drawn into the Joker's delusions who has become a danger in her own right.
06.) The Joker - As Sunderstone said, his status as a villain was cemented by his treatment of Jason Todd and Barbara Gordon. Though the best part is that if you don't get the Joker, its your problem, not his, he's a comedic genius. (Read Knight and Squire, 'Fore Six, to really see this, as well as "the knock-off," Jarvis Poker, the British Joker.)
05.) Victor Von Doom - A villain with diplomatic immunity, what's not to like?
04.) Sinestro - Control freak numero uno, he genuinely believes that what he is doing is best for his planet, and the Universe.
03.) Red Skull - An un-killable Nazi who keeps transferring his consciousness from body to body, including Dell Rusk (a clone of his own arch-nemesis no less) and the Giant Ameridroid. He will be back.
02.) Magneto - The ONLY Earth-based villian with his own UN Protocols for dealing with. Has had his own nation and his own orbital community. Seems to be the head of the Mutant equivalent of the Black Panthers, the Brotherhood of Mutants (only the X-men and the media, call them evil).
01.) Darkseid - Any incarnation, but one line from Justice League says it all about him, "I'm am many things Kryptonian, but here, I am God." Plus unlike his knock off Thanos, he doesn't seek to kill everything or destroy the universe, he seeks the 'Anti-Life' equation, a death of individuality and free thought. Not destruction, but control.

Andoran

I base my top 10 on three criteria.

1. How much I enjoy the character.
2. Versatility of stories.
3. Ability to make you care what he thinks

10. Wizard (Marvel)
9. Deadshot
8. Deathstroke
7. Professor Zoom
6. Dr. Doom
5. Thanos
4. Magneto
3. Vandal Savage
2. Captain Cold
1. Magus (Adam Warlock in his evil self)

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Let's see, I agree with some thoughts above, but want to add some more to the list, so top 10 unmentioned villains:

Mum-Ra (Thundercats)
The Dancer (Grimjack)
Kalibos (Grimjack)
Sylar (Heroes)
Arcade (X-Men)
Kang (Avengers)
Empath (The New Mutants)
Purple Man (Avengers, Heroes for Hire)
Mastermind (X-Men)

and the most villainous villain ever in the history of comics:

Shapeshifter (Elementals)

She's a nasty piece of work. Between convincing a religious fanatic to kill 1200 people in the hopes that some of them would gain superpowers and what she did to Morningstar, yeah, she wins the evil award.

And Vampire Varney from Elementals deserves a special mention to... a fat, rhyming vampire who performs unspeakable acts of brutality...

Qadira

Baron Blood
Hobgoblin
Brainiac
The Joker
Mr. Freeze
Deathstroke
Black Adam
killerfrost
Viper
Bullseye

Andoran

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules, Pawns, Roleplaying Game Subscriber
Reckless wrote:


And Vampire Varney from Elementals deserves a special mention to... a fat, rhyming vampire who performs unspeakable acts of brutality...

Crap! His name was Captain Cadaver.


Reckless wrote:
Crap! His name was Captain Cadaver.

As long as his first name wasn't Abra.............


Reckless wrote:

Let's see, I agree with some thoughts above, but want to add some more to the list, so top 10 unmentioned villains:

Mum-Ra (Thundercats)
The Dancer (Grimjack)
Kalibos (Grimjack)
Sylar (Heroes)
Arcade (X-Men)
Kang (Avengers)
Empath (The New Mutants)
Purple Man (Avengers, Heroes for Hire)
Mastermind (X-Men)

and the most villainous villain ever in the history of comics:

Shapeshifter (Elementals)

She's a nasty piece of work. Between convincing a religious fanatic to kill 1200 people in the hopes that some of them would gain superpowers and what she did to Morningstar, yeah, she wins the evil award.

And Vampire Varney from Elementals deserves a special mention to... a fat, rhyming vampire who performs unspeakable acts of brutality...

Oooh, nostalgia.

The Elementals did have some good villains and some great ideas. Very uneven though.
Grimjack was solid through and through. One of my all time favorites. I used Kalibos as a villain in a Feng Shui game. Very creepy and nasty.


Dang! Thanks Dread, how the heck could I have forgotten Professor Zoom! He's an awesome villian!


1) Doctor Doom ("Doom 'needs' no one.")
2) Loki ("...but where Mephisto failed, there shall cunning Loki find success!")
3) Mephisto ("...the smoldering labyrinth that is my brain!")
4) Michael Korvac
5) Thanos
6) Darkseid
7) Destroyer (Asgardian)
8) Midgard Serpent
9) Galactus (and, yes, he is a villain; spare me that "above morality" crap)
10) Juggernaut

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Tales Subscriber

1) Doctor Victor Von Doom
2) Doctor Octopus
3) Green Goblin
4) Sandman
5) Rhino
6) Electro
7) Mysterio
8) Venom
9) Kraven
10) Shocker.


1. Joker
2. Dr. Doom
3. Magneto
4. Ras Al Ghul (really the entre league of assassians)
5. Deathstroke
6. Lex Luthor
7. Harly Quinn
8. Arcade
9. Poison Ivy
10. Carnage


1) Magneto
2) Venom
3) Holocaust
4) En Sabah Nur
5) Joker
6) Thanos
7) Kang
8) Lex Luthor
9) Emma Frost
10) Spiral

Is it odd that this list was much easier than the super heroes?


1) Thanos (despite what he started as Thanos has grown tremendously over the years under Jim Starlin. Easily my all time favourite villain and writer/artist)
2) Doctor Doom (I mean c'mon... it's DOOM!)
3) Magneto (personally I liked the pre-joining Xmen phase of Magneto when he was basically a super-terrorist with a clear agenda)
4) The Joker (fav non-powered villain)
5) Ultron always like an evil super intelligent robot bent on world conquest!
6) The Sentinels under Bolivar Trask (pre-New Xmen days) - those things were freaking terrifying - self-repairing, adaptable to whatever super powered mutant they encountered. Yikes!
7) Doctor Otto Octavius - the obligatory awesome Spiderman foe
8) Green Goblin - who said there'd be only one? :)
9) The Leader - terrible name but i always loved his dust ups with the Hulk
10) Loki - like the Joker but waaaaay more powerful. Too bad he keeps trying to beat Thor.


Jaelithe wrote:


9) Galactus (and, yes, he is a villain; spare me that "above morality" crap)

He isn't 'above morality' - he's completely devoid of it. Galactus is a force of nature given sentience. Applying good or evil labels to him is like trying to call an earthquake evil or a sunny day a force for good. He just is. The Silver Surfer comic from the mid 90s had a fantastic take on Galactus and his place in the universe. Some top drawer cosmic storylines in that one.


If I'm not at the top of your list, you're even crazier than me!


PsychoticWarrior wrote:
Jaelithe wrote:


9) Galactus (and, yes, he is a villain; spare me that "above morality" crap)
He isn't 'above morality' - he's completely devoid of it. Galactus is a force of nature given sentience. Applying good or evil labels to him is like trying to call an earthquake evil or a sunny day a force for good. He just is. The Silver Surfer comic from the mid 90s had a fantastic take on Galactus and his place in the universe. Some top drawer cosmic storylines in that one.

The fact that he is sentient makes him a bad guy. He destroys planets knowing that he is killing billions at a time just to feed his hunger. You'd think with his cosmic level of intelligence that he could figure out another way to feed but he hasn't. And if that is impossible the noble thing to do is commit suicide or somehow imprison himself. Because if he isn't "evil" and doesn't deserve to be destroyed then neither do vampire, werewolves or other monsters that use sentient beings as food. As a matter of fact I believe that any character that had a chance to destroy Galactus but didn't deserves blame for everyone Galactus has murdered from that point.


PsychoticWarrior wrote:
Jaelithe wrote:


9) Galactus (and, yes, he is a villain; spare me that "above morality" crap)
He isn't 'above morality' - he's completely devoid of it. Galactus is a force of nature given sentience. Applying good or evil labels to him is like trying to call an earthquake evil or a sunny day a force for good. He just is. The Silver Surfer comic from the mid 90s had a fantastic take on Galactus and his place in the universe. Some top drawer cosmic storylines in that one.

Thank you. I've read them all, and that party line, ad infinitum, ad tedium, ad nauseam. You could drive Galactus' World Ship through the logical hole in that concept. Saying that something is both sentient and above/devoid of morality doesn't make it so, whether the Marvel writers assert it or not.

You're welcome to enjoy the character based on that understanding, though. "Convention of the genre" and all that jazz. I'll pass.

(But if Galactus had no conscience/was devoid of morality, in my opinion Dr. Strange's spell the Images of Ikonn would have had no effect on him.)


Calling Galactus evil for eating planets is like calling a human evil for eating an anthill.


Moi, of course! I take the top 10 spots.


Backfromthedeadguy wrote:
As a matter of fact I believe that any character that had a chance to destroy Galactus but didn't deserves blame for everyone Galactus has murdered from that point.

Hence John Byrne's FF story arc which climaxed in "The Trial of Reed Richards."

Osirion

In no particular order;

1) Dr. Doom
2) Moonstone / Dr. Karla Sofen
3) Dr. Octopus
4) Sebastian Shaw
5) Shapeshifter (Elementals foe)
6) Killjoy (Cyberforce foe)
7) Darkseid
8) Emerald Empress
9) the Crime Syndicate (as a group)
10) the League of Super-Assassins (as a group, Legion foes)

Lots of honorable mentions, like Loki and the Super-Skrull and Magneto and Baron Zemo and Sinestro and Trigon and Brother Blood and Maxine Manchester / Ladytron (from WildCATs), but these are my favorites of this exact second, and will change between the time I hit submit and the post appears. :)


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I'll just chime in..
1 magneto
2 joker
3 harlequin
4 poison ivi
5 lex luthor
6 darkseid
7 ras al ghul
8 vandal savage
9 dr doom
10 and lucky last SNOWFLAME!!! because a bad guy powered up on cocaine is so awesomely stupid.

Cheliax

I also have strange love towards the c-and b-list villains. They may be campy as hell sometimea and look like idiots, but I really love stories involving them.

Top 10 b/c list villains!

1. Captain Boomerang (Digger Harkness)
2. The Wizard (Bentley Wittman)
3. The Arcade
4. Captain Cold (Leonard Snart)
5. Mad Hatter (Jervis Tetch)
6. The Shocker (Herman Schultz)
7. The Scorpion (Mac Gargan)
8. Mirror Master (Evan McCulloch)
9. Toad (Mortimer Toynbee)
10. M.O.D.O.K

Grand Lodge

1. Joker from the Killing Joke. What he did to Barbara Gordan and his motivations for it are the defining Joker story for me. I HATE that the new 52 completely invalidated that and Barbara becoming something more than what the Joker left.
2. Ozymandias from Watchmen. Unlike most super villains, he was completely successful in his plans.
3. Magneto. Every time he speaks, I find myself agreeing with him. If I were a mutant in the Marvel Univerise, I think I would be working with him instead of Xavier.
4. Harley Quinn - She is a great counter-point to The Joker.
5. Ras al Ghul
6. Lady Shiva
7. Loki
8. Apocalypse
9. Brainiac
10. Sinestro


Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

For me, the Serpent Society, all of them takes up all ten spots!!!!

It is criminal that writers nowadays portray them as incomeptent nincompoops instead when they first debuted as first rate professional criminals.


Poison Ivy
White Queen
Enchantress
Titania
Silver Swan
Red Lantern Laira
Viper/Madame Hydra
Pretty Persuasions
White Rabbit (Marvel)
Black Cat

Honorable mentions: Mystique, Catwoman, Maxima

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