Pathfinder Core Premium Edition?


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Do the good folks at Paizo have any plans to make a premium edition (leather/leather-like cover) of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook? Mine is wearing out fairly quickly and I would love to have a high-quality bound book on my shelf!

Dan from Redlands

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

We have no such plans at this time.


On one hand I'd like to pout at the news. On the other hand, I can only hope that Paizo never does a leather bound version of the Core Pathfinder book as errata continues on and on.

Also would not like to see this while my local game store is still over stocked on the re-release of AD&D books.


Vic Wertz wrote:
We have no such plans at this time.

Kickstartersayswhat? ;)


I'm in the process of going through my books with construction paper and glue dots to put errata in place. No way I'd I'd buy a nee book for just updates. A leather tome on the other hand? I'd swing a hundred or so for that.


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I would personally rather see books released in boxed sets.. but that's just me. :D

Dark Archive

Uninvited Ghost wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
We have no such plans at this time.
Kickstartersayswhat? ;)

That's funny!

Dark Archive

I think the good folks at Paizo got it figured out. It seems to me, they don't see us customers as cows that they can continually milk. Instead, they keep us fed with delicious non GMO grains, corn, and frequent of exotic feed. But they never feed us cow, you never have to worry about developing mad cow disease.

I would love to see moderately priced box sets of modules + minis with lots of goodies. Maybe a Council of Wyrms, type of thing for Pathfinder... I wonder if someone has converted that before.

Mooooo!


Mazlith wrote:

I think the good folks at Paizo got it figured out. It seems to me, they don't see us customers as cows that they can continually milk. Instead, they keep us fed with delicious non GMO grains, corn, and frequent of exotic feed. But they never feed us cow, you never have to worry about developing mad cow disease.

I would love to see moderately priced box sets of modules + minis with lots of goodies. Maybe a Council of Wyrms, type of thing for Pathfinder... I wonder if someone has converted that before.

Mooooo!

I think they would milk us, in a good way, if they had the resources.

A Kickstarter for a leather cover addition could probably do really well, but that would tie up time from personnel that they would feel are better off being applied to something else.

They go for the best bang for their buck.

They want to make the most money possible making the most fans/customers happy.

So a leather bound book would make some people happy and make some money, whereas they'd rather have people working on something that would make more money and make more people happy.

That's the way I see things from my armchair. ;)

Liberty's Edge

If the premium editon would include a seperate players handbook and DMG I would be all over it. I like the core but my binding is falling apart bit by bit. It's heavy to read and carry about. Otherwise I'm not sure what they could add that has not been added already with errata. I would love to see something similar to Mongooose old 3.5 pocket edtions.


memorax wrote:
If the premium editon would include a seperate players handbook and DMG I would be all over it. I like the core but my binding is falling apart bit by bit. It's heavy to read and carry about. Otherwise I'm not sure what they could add that has not been added already with errata. I would love to see something similar to Mongooose old 3.5 pocket edtions.

You know, as much as I liked the idea of a single Core Rulebook, a few years on I really see the wisdom of the PHB/DMG split. I'm going to hazard a guess many at Paizo do as well, but when they started down this road they weren't sure they could get one book to fly, let alone two.

In any event, a really nice collector's edition of the core would be sweet.


I'd love a leatherbound version, but I suspect that doing it would provoke cries of "money grab" if it didnt have any new content/art and would require scant resources from other projects if it did. :(

I'd also like a "player's digest version" with less art to use as a reference at the table - no doubt facing similar objections (plus a small market, I'd guess).

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Uninvited Ghost wrote:
A Kickstarter for a leather cover addition could probably do really well, but that would tie up time from personnel that they would feel are better off being applied to something else.

We wouldn't need to do a Kickstarter for it; assuming we don't do anything stupid, we'd have no problems either making it or selling it. And the time it would take in-house to do such a thing would not be huge.

*If* we were to do one, we'd want to have a good reason for it—perhaps a celebration of something noteworthy, like a major anniversary... or some really awesome thing we can include to make it jawdroppingly wonderful... or, better yet, both. These are the kinds of things that led us to our Rise of the Runelords Deluxe Collector's Edition.

Frankly, I'd be pretty surprised if we don't offer something cool along that line *eventually*... we just don't have anything planned currently.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Frankly, I'd be pretty surprised if we don't offer something cool along that line *eventually*... we just don't have anything planned currently.

*cough* 10th Anniversary of Pathfinder *cough*

So folks, don't hold your breath.


I still dream of a trade paperback trio of books (character, rules, spells) instead of the huge core rulebook. After playing with the smaller books of Savage Worlds and Burning Wheel, the "traditional" 8 x 11 hardcover is troublesome at the table.


I very much second the splitting of the Core Rule book into a Players and GM's book. On the other hand I can use the core rulebook to ward off werewolves, muggers, rule lawyers, etc so I guess it still has it's definate uses.

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Maps, Rulebook Subscriber

It's a lot easier to carry PDFs on a smartphone or tablet, though.

Apparently you can get tasers/stun guns that look like a smartphone, too. Those would probably work on rules lawyers ...


On tablets and smartphones you can have apps that have whole PRD with latest updates as well ;)

Shadow Lodge

Pathfinder Lost Omens, Maps, Rulebook Subscriber
Zmar wrote:
On tablets and smartphones you can have apps that have whole PRD with latest updates as well ;)

Yep. I've got two different ones on my tablet. They lag slightly behind the PRD for updates, but they're still a whole lot more up-to-date than printed books, as well as being much easier to carry.

But not all the hardback books are included in the PRD, let alone all the softcovers (Player Companions, Pathfinder Chronicles, Campaign Settings, ...). And while individually the soft-cover booklets aren't all that heavy, when you've got a stack of them the weight adds up.

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JohnF wrote:
Zmar wrote:
On tablets and smartphones you can have apps that have whole PRD with latest updates as well ;)

Yep. I've got two different ones on my tablet. They lag slightly behind the PRD for updates, but they're still a whole lot more up-to-date than printed books, as well as being much easier to carry.

But not all the hardback books are included in the PRD, let alone all the softcovers (Player Companions, Pathfinder Chronicles, Campaign Settings, ...). And while individually the soft-cover booklets aren't all that heavy, when you've got a stack of them the weight adds up.

I've got a 3x3 IKEA cube full of 3.5e and Pathfinder books. Rather a lot to carry; I *love* my iPad :)

I just carry a backpack full of the books the players are most likely to borrow and keep the rest on the iPad.


Yup, PDFs of the other books are quite handy, but better for continued reading, rather than reference during the game. d20pfsrd also comes handy provided that gaming room is equipped with wifi. Searching within PDFs is ocassionally annoying, but that site has converted monsters from old APs and source book and third party materials.

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