paizo.com Recent Posts in Barbarian Paladinpaizo.com Recent Posts in Barbarian Paladin2013-11-25T20:07:46Z2013-11-25T20:07:46ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinAzten (alias of Dragonborn3)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#372014-03-31T05:31:05Z2014-03-31T05:31:05Z<p>The Maenad, a race from Dreamscared Press, can do this.</p>The Maenad, a race from Dreamscared Press, can do this.Azten (alias of Dragonborn3)2014-03-31T05:31:05ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinAlexandros Satorum (alias of Nicos)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#362014-03-31T05:24:07Z2014-03-31T05:24:07Z<p>the second thread necro ...</p>
<p>Well, There is the viking archetype, but nah, it is probably not a good option.</p>the second thread necro ...
Well, There is the viking archetype, but nah, it is probably not a good option.Alexandros Satorum (alias of Nicos)2014-03-31T05:24:07ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinJoão Possani (alias of v8johnny)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#352014-04-09T23:42:16Z2014-03-31T05:07:33Z<p>Well, there was the Book of Hallowed Might variant Paladin classes, both Chaotic and Neutral.
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Both lose Aura of Courage.
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The Neutral Good Paladin loses the Special Mount and removes protection from chaos, magic circle against chaos, and dispel chaos from their class spell lists, while gaining [Blessed Presence (Su): At 2nd level, neutral good paladins project an aura that affects all allies within 15 feet as if they were under the effects of a bless spell (+1 morale bonus to attacks and saves against fear)] and [Celestial Ally: At 5th level, once per day, a neutral good paladin can use a standard action to summon a good-aligned outsider as if he cast summon monster. Divide the paladin’s level by 2 (minimum 1, maximum 9) to determine the level of the summon monster spell, and use the paladin’s level as the caster level], and new restrictions on cohorts and followers.
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The Chaotic Good Paladin loses the ability to Turn Undead, removes protection from chaos, magic circle against chaos, and dispel chaos from their class spell lists and replace them with protection from law, magic circle against law, and dispel law, while gaining [Shared Grace: At 2nd level, chaotic good paladins gain the ability to share the bonus that they gain through divine grace with one other character within 5 feet. The paladin can designate a new character to share his grace with each round] and [Stand Against the Tide: Chaotic paladins train
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to use their foes’ numbers against them. At 3rd level, the chaotic good paladin gains a luck bonus equal to his level divided by 3 (round down, minimum 1) to Armor Class and attack rolls if engaged in melee with more than one foe], and again new restrictions on cohorts and followers alignment.
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You can find that rules better explained in pages 16-17 of Book of Hallowed Might.</p>
<p>And I guess it's the perfect option for a Barbarian/Paladin. Been craving to use that combination for quite some time, but no groups for me recently =/</p>Well, there was the Book of Hallowed Might variant Paladin classes, both Chaotic and Neutral.
Both lose Aura of Courage.
The Neutral Good Paladin loses the Special Mount and removes protection from chaos, magic circle against chaos, and dispel chaos from their class spell lists, while gaining [Blessed Presence (Su): At 2nd level, neutral good paladins project an aura that affects all allies within 15 feet as if they were under the effects of a bless spell (+1 morale bonus to attacks and saves...João Possani (alias of v8johnny)2014-03-31T05:07:33ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinFinlanderboyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#342013-11-25T23:51:09Z2013-11-25T23:51:09Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">NoncompliAut wrote:</div><blockquote> Use the Celestial Bloodline Bloodrager from the Advanced Class Guide playtest. Bloodrager has no alignment restrictions. </blockquote><p>Yet....NoncompliAut wrote:Use the Celestial Bloodline Bloodrager from the Advanced Class Guide playtest. Bloodrager has no alignment restrictions.
Yet....Finlanderboy2013-11-25T23:51:09ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinNoncompliAuthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#332013-11-25T22:00:48Z2013-11-25T22:00:48Z<p>Use the Celestial Bloodline Bloodrager from the Advanced Class Guide playtest. Bloodrager has no alignment restrictions.</p>Use the Celestial Bloodline Bloodrager from the Advanced Class Guide playtest. Bloodrager has no alignment restrictions.NoncompliAut2013-11-25T22:00:48ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinMrSinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#322013-11-25T21:42:13Z2013-11-25T21:42:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:</div><blockquote> There are several Fighter and Ranger archetypes of a less civilized variety, including the Viking Fighter archetype. </blockquote><p>Wait, are they trying to be lawful and rage? Someone needs to tell them they're doing it wrong!Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan wrote:There are several Fighter and Ranger archetypes of a less civilized variety, including the Viking Fighter archetype.
Wait, are they trying to be lawful and rage? Someone needs to tell them they're doing it wrong!MrSin2013-11-25T21:42:13ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinZahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan (RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#312013-11-25T21:37:48Z2013-11-25T21:37:48Z<p>There are several Fighter and Ranger archetypes of a less civilized variety, including the Viking Fighter archetype.</p>There are several Fighter and Ranger archetypes of a less civilized variety, including the Viking Fighter archetype.Zahir ibn Mahmoud ibn Jothan (RPG Superstar 2014 Top 16)2013-11-25T21:37:48ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinLemmyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#302013-11-25T01:05:35Z2013-11-25T01:05:35Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">MrSin wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Lemmy wrote:</div><blockquote> Wow... I didn't even remember creating this thread. Heh.</blockquote>A stupid bard cast Thread Necro. </blockquote><p>Huh... I didn't know Bards had that one on their spell list. Is he some sort of Bard/Cleric hybrid from ACG?MrSin wrote:Lemmy wrote: Wow... I didn't even remember creating this thread. Heh.
A stupid bard cast Thread Necro. Huh... I didn't know Bards had that one on their spell list. Is he some sort of Bard/Cleric hybrid from ACG?Lemmy2013-11-25T01:05:35ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinMrSinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#292013-11-25T01:02:25Z2013-11-25T01:02:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lemmy wrote:</div><blockquote> Wow... I didn't even remember creating this thread. Heh.</blockquote><p>A stupid bard cast Thread Necro.Lemmy wrote:Wow... I didn't even remember creating this thread. Heh.
A stupid bard cast Thread Necro.MrSin2013-11-25T01:02:25ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinLemmyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#282013-11-25T00:57:47Z2013-11-25T00:57:47Z<p>Wow... I didn't even remember creating this thread. Heh.</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote> Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well. </blockquote><p>I made one of those as a BBEG for a campaign. He's 14th level. I'm afraid of using it because it could easily kill half the party before it's taken down. oO.Wow... I didn't even remember creating this thread. Heh.
blackbloodtroll wrote:Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well.
I made one of those as a BBEG for a campaign. He's 14th level. I'm afraid of using it because it could easily kill half the party before it's taken down. oO.Lemmy2013-11-25T00:57:47ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinGilfalashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#272013-11-24T22:48:53Z2013-11-24T22:48:53Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">MrSin wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Gilfalas wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote> Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well. </blockquote>Blackblood you may have just given me the idea for my next Character! •Evilsmile• </blockquote>Make it a Vishkanya with Sleep Venom? That can be a particularly vicious combination. Also very thematic. </blockquote><p>Was thinking more the 'Death Dealer' of Molly Hatchett album cover fame.
<p>Champion of a god of Chaos and Destruction who enjoys messing over the other evil gods. A Chaotic Evil berserking anti paladin who would travel with good groups to kill other evil gods minions (and attempt to corrupt the good guys on the way).</p>MrSin wrote:Gilfalas wrote: blackbloodtroll wrote: Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well.
Blackblood you may have just given me the idea for my next Character! *Evilsmile* Make it a Vishkanya with Sleep Venom? That can be a particularly vicious combination. Also very thematic. Was thinking more the 'Death Dealer' of Molly Hatchett album cover fame. Champion of a god of Chaos and Destruction who enjoys messing over the other evil gods. A Chaotic Evil berserking anti paladin who would...Gilfalas2013-11-24T22:48:53ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinMrSinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#262013-11-24T22:38:51Z2013-11-24T22:38:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Gilfalas wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote> Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well. </blockquote>Blackblood you may have just given me the idea for my next Character! •Evilsmile• </blockquote><p>Make it a Vishkanya with Sleep Venom? That can be a particularly vicious combination. Also very thematic.Gilfalas wrote:blackbloodtroll wrote: Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well.
Blackblood you may have just given me the idea for my next Character! *Evilsmile* Make it a Vishkanya with Sleep Venom? That can be a particularly vicious combination. Also very thematic.MrSin2013-11-24T22:38:51ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinGilfalashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#252013-11-24T22:20:13Z2013-11-24T22:20:13Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">blackbloodtroll wrote:</div><blockquote> Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well. </blockquote><p>Blackblood you may have just given me the idea for my next Character! •Evilsmile•blackbloodtroll wrote:Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well.
Blackblood you may have just given me the idea for my next Character! *Evilsmile*Gilfalas2013-11-24T22:20:13ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian Paladinblackbloodtrollhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#242013-11-24T21:57:00Z2013-11-24T21:57:00Z<p>Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well.</p>Well, Barbarian/Antipaladin works quite well.blackbloodtroll2013-11-24T21:57:00ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinReynard_the_foxhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#232013-11-24T21:11:12Z2013-11-24T21:11:12Z<p>Assuming you houserule the alignment restrictions, I could see a Barbaladin (Palabarian?) as someone who just gets REALLY, REALLY MAD at evil. Rawr!</p>Assuming you houserule the alignment restrictions, I could see a Barbaladin (Palabarian?) as someone who just gets REALLY, REALLY MAD at evil. Rawr!Reynard_the_fox2013-11-24T21:11:12ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinGilfalashttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#222013-11-24T20:57:40Z2013-11-24T20:57:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lemmy wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Is there any way to make a multiclass Barbarian/Paladin character other than homebrewing?</p>
<p>I'm playing a Paladin with a viking-ish background right now and I was considering this idea, but I don't think it's possible.</p>
<p>Damn allignment restrictions...</blockquote><p>If your gm is willing to work with you and is willing to consider 3.5 material, you could adapt the old 3.5 <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#paladinofFreedomClassFeatures" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Paladin of Freedom</a> variant and make a Chaotic Good Barbarian Class/Paladin of Freedom character with no alignment conflicts.
<p>Would take a samall amount of work to make the Paladin of Freedom PF compatible but it should be really simple.</p>Lemmy wrote:Is there any way to make a multiclass Barbarian/Paladin character other than homebrewing?
I'm playing a Paladin with a viking-ish background right now and I was considering this idea, but I don't think it's possible.
Damn allignment restrictions...
If your gm is willing to work with you and is willing to consider 3.5 material, you could adapt the old 3.5 Paladin of Freedom variant and make a Chaotic Good Barbarian Class/Paladin of Freedom character with no alignment conflicts....Gilfalas2013-11-24T20:57:40ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinMrSinhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#212013-11-24T19:25:53Z2013-11-24T19:25:53Z<p>Have you tried asking your GM nicely? With a plate of brownies maybe?</p>Have you tried asking your GM nicely? With a plate of brownies maybe?MrSin2013-11-24T19:25:53ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian Paladinklevis69https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#202013-11-24T18:00:44Z2013-11-24T18:00:44Z<p>Beyond Morality path from Mythic can do it for you.</p>Beyond Morality path from Mythic can do it for you.klevis692013-11-24T18:00:44ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinStupid Bardhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#192013-11-24T17:52:17Z2013-11-24T17:52:17Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lemmy wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Is there any way to make a multiclass Barbarian/Paladin character other than homebrewing?</p>
<p>I'm playing a Paladin with a viking-ish background right now and I was considering this idea, but I don't think it's possible.</p>
<p>Damn allignment restrictions...
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</blockquote><p>In Psioncs Unleashed Which is the Pathfinder Psioinics Hand book, there is a race called Maenads. One of their racial ability's is Maenads mat take level of barbarian even if they are lawful. There a weird race of seafaring psionic lawful barbarians. But theirs no way to do it as a human.Lemmy wrote:Is there any way to make a multiclass Barbarian/Paladin character other than homebrewing?
I'm playing a Paladin with a viking-ish background right now and I was considering this idea, but I don't think it's possible.
Damn allignment restrictions...
In Psioncs Unleashed Which is the Pathfinder Psioinics Hand book, there is a race called Maenads. One of their racial ability's is Maenads mat take level of barbarian even if they are lawful. There a weird race of seafaring psionic...Stupid Bard2013-11-24T17:52:17ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinLemmyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#182012-09-10T17:53:00Z2012-09-10T17:53:00Z<p>Lots of great ideas in this thread. I'll try some Ranger/Paladin builds in HeroLab and check the homebrew stuff too.</p>Lots of great ideas in this thread. I'll try some Ranger/Paladin builds in HeroLab and check the homebrew stuff too.Lemmy2012-09-10T17:53:00ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian Paladindarkwarriorkarghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#172012-09-10T09:39:58Z2012-09-10T09:39:58Z<p>If this is a home game, maybe replace the Bond ability with rage identical to the urban barbarian. Your barbarian level would be paladin level -3 for the purposes of qualifying for rage powers.</p>
<p>Further, replace the spellcasting with a rage power every 2 levels after 3rd.</p>
<p>I would recommend the fatigue mercy for your healing touch :-).</p>If this is a home game, maybe replace the Bond ability with rage identical to the urban barbarian. Your barbarian level would be paladin level -3 for the purposes of qualifying for rage powers.
Further, replace the spellcasting with a rage power every 2 levels after 3rd.
I would recommend the fatigue mercy for your healing touch :-).darkwarriorkarg2012-09-10T09:39:58ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian Paladindarkwarriorkarghttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#162012-09-10T09:30:08Z2012-09-10T09:30:08Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bardess wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
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</blockquote><p>Evil? They are missing the [Evil] descriptor. Necromancy does not mean [evil] automatically.
<p>I would want to replace the Inflict Critical Wounds with something useful, though...</p>Bardess wrote:Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
Evil? They are missing the [Evil] descriptor. Necromancy does not mean [evil] automatically. I would want to replace the Inflict Critical...darkwarriorkarg2012-09-10T09:30:08ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinDrejk (alias of Wojciech Gruchala)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#152012-09-10T09:24:27Z2012-09-10T09:24:27Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bardess wrote:</div><blockquote> Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.</blockquote><p>Neither <i>inflict wounds</i> nor <i>harm</i> are evil. Good clerics can use them without problems (just like evil clerics can heal and revive), they just don't get to cast them spontaneously. Which isn't problem for Paladin because he does not get spontaneous casting anyway.Bardess wrote:Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
Neither inflict wounds nor harm are evil. Good clerics can use them without problems (just like evil clerics can heal and revive), they just...Drejk (alias of Wojciech Gruchala)2012-09-10T09:24:27ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinHarrisonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#142012-09-10T09:06:54Z2012-09-10T09:06:54Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bardess wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
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And if you still want to multiclass, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/community-creations/epic-meepo-presents/archetypes-by-epic-meepo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Epic Meepo created the Disciplined Barbarian archetype</a>, and that can be lawful too. </blockquote><p>Epic Meepo also did the Wayward Paladin archetype, which might be a bit better than Disciplined Barbarian. The Wayward Paladin has you to pick an Oracle Curse, and if you grab Lame, then you can start Rage Cycling once you become immune to fatigue. On top of that, Wayward Paladin doesn't have an alignment restriction.
<p>If that's still not your cup of tea, and you wanna go for something published, the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/races/maenad" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Maenad race from Dreamscarred Press</a> has a racial ability that allows you to take levels in Barbarian without penalty, even if you are of a Lawful alignment. On top of that, the Maenad have a history of being a sea-faring people, and while my knowledge of viking history is embarrassingly small, I do know that vikings at least used boats.</p>Bardess wrote:Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
And if you still want to multiclass, Epic Meepo created the Disciplined Barbarian archetype, and that can be lawful too.
Epic Meepo also did...Harrison2012-09-10T09:06:54ZRe: Forums: Advice: Barbarian PaladinBardesshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ou8t?Barbarian-Paladin#132012-09-10T08:48:20Z2012-09-10T08:48:20Z<p>Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
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And if you still want to multiclass, <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/community-creations/epic-meepo-presents/archetypes-by-epic-meepo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Epic Meepo created the Disciplined Barbarian archetype</a>, and that can be lawful too.</p>Great! But I guess that Ragathiel (and other Good destructive deities) would need to replace the 4th-level domain spell, since Inflict Critical Wounds is evil magic. Harm is too, but that one is however replaced in the Rage subdomain (and a paladin wouldn't gain it anyway). I'd suggest Shared Wrath and Sign of Wrath as replacement spells.
And if you still want to multiclass, Epic Meepo created the Disciplined Barbarian archetype, and that can be lawful too.Bardess2012-09-10T08:48:20Z