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AP Shattered Star: Shards of Sin Chronicle sheets


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Andoran * Venture-Lieutenant, Oregon—Eugene aka marv

Where can I find chronical sheets for the Shattered Star AP? Also, other than the the AP itself and the Shattered Star Players Guide, is there any other guidence for PFS play in this AP for GMs?

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There aren't any. Shattered Star and other AP's are not legal for PFS play and thus players/GMs don't receive credit for playing them. The individual modules are PFS legal, but not the APs.

Andoran * Venture-Lieutenant, Oregon—Eugene aka marv

Nebten wrote:
There aren't any. Shattered Star and other AP's are not legal for PFS play and thus players/GMs don't receive credit for playing them. The individual modules are PFS legal, but not the APs.

Then why all the effort to include so much PFS info in this AP? Very odd.

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To advertise PFS play of course :P

Osirion ****

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Maps, Modules, Tales Subscriber

What Shifty said, as well as to provide an AP outlet for being a group of Pathfinders which has been largely from APs. Not everyone plays PFS (it used to be a minority of players). Also, I imagine the AP experience of being a Pathfinder will be a far-cry from the Scenario experience.

Andoran * Venture-Lieutenant, Oregon—Eugene aka marv

Majuba wrote:

What Shifty said, as well as to provide an AP outlet for being a group of Pathfinders which has been largely from APs. Not everyone plays PFS (it used to be a minority of players). Also, I imagine the AP experience of being a Pathfinder will be a far-cry from the Scenario experience.

I understand. And I certainly understand very well that the needs of an AP are different than sanctioned PFS sessions.

However, I have found that in running 4-01 Rise of the Goblin Guild there has been some useful material in the first installment of the Shattered Star AP to add some depth to GMing 4-01 with NPC and setting information.

It seems to me a logical next step would be take a subset of the encounters/dungeons in this AP to make a couple of sanctioned PFS senerios. This could be something like what was done with We Be Goblins where you have a separate PDF download of instructions and chronical sheets and maybe even some pregens targeted for certain points in the AP. This would be a great way to cross market the AP and PFS (more than what this AP already does so very well).

Just a suggestion for Paizo.

Qadira **

Pathfinder Comics Subscriber; Pathfinder Adventure Path, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Yes but the intent of PFS is the ability to pick up and play with locals who don't have time for long drawn out campaigns. The APs being those involved campaigns, albeit I understand and slightly agree to the possibility of some kind of integration between the two.

Qadira ***** RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

I would guess that the synergy between Season 4 and the Shatfered Star AP is intentional, much the same way the Pathfinder Society produced a number of adventures set in Tian Xia concurrent to the Jade Regent AP.

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should be pretty easy to make, something i have been thinkiong about

saves on tracking on xp

Qadira *** Venture-Captain, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Thorkull

thenovalord wrote:

should be pretty easy to make, something i have been thinkiong about

saves on tracking on xp

You're not allowed to make up your own Chronicle sheets for Pathfinder Society Organized Play for non-sanctioned scenarios or Modules. If you're talking about making such for a home game, of course, that's perfectly fine, but this is the PFS section of the messageboards.

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Yeah mr grumpy. The non pfs thread for this got blocked and redirected here.
Obviously i meant for a home game.

Shadow Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Michigan—Alma

It wasn't obvious at all, and just because you have a star, doesn't mean it wasn't possible you didn't know that. I've seen people with more stars make bigger mistakes.

Qadira *** Venture-Captain, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Thorkull

Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
It wasn't obvious at all, and just because you have a star, doesn't mean it wasn't possible you didn't know that. I've seen people with more stars make bigger mistakes.

...and sometimes the posts I make are meant as much as clarification for other people (lurkers) reading the thread as they are for the person I'm replying to.

Taldor *

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Well... Its listed as a sanctioned AP now... :)

*****

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

Silly cat. It never did like staying in its bag.

Taldor *

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Did I open the bag before I was supposed to?
:(

Silver Crusade **** Venture-Lieutenant, Nebraska—Omaha aka Belarias

Please someone tell me what this means?!

Taldor *

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I do believe it means that both Shattered Star AP and Rise of the Runelords Anniversary edition are both now (or soon to be) sanctioned APs....

But I think it might be an accidental early reveal... because some joker decided to talk about what he saw over in another section of the website.... he (this "Wamulus" joker) spoiled the big reveal!

Silver Crusade **** Venture-Lieutenant, Nebraska—Omaha aka Belarias

... Cool. I really hope this works

Taldor *

Pathfinder Adventure Path, Companion, Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Me too!


Now the chronicles have been out for a month and I'm looking for feedback as to the handling of the 2 items listed on the chronicle and all future instances of said items.

Each of these things has a related curse and a subsequent way to remove the curse in each of the mods. When the players receive these items on the chronicle, are these Items missing the object that negates the curse? If it is missing, can players install said item in the future to negate the curse?

Thank you for any info people are able to give, but would like a definitive word from the powers that be. Thank you!

Grand Lodge **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber

The chronicle sheets need to be taken in isolation, as that's all the documentation a player will have. If there was an easy way to negate the penalty, it would be listed on the chronicle sheet.

Bear in mind that the character effectively gets the use of a powerful magic item for free, and the listed penalty is the only drawback to it.


Thank you Paz for the response. Still would like to know if a character can negate the penalty using the method listed in the adventure path? Taking the information listed in the Chronicle for Shards of Sin, The first Items penalty is easy to adjudicate and negate.

the second one as it reads is extraordinarily a pain to deal with.

Spoiler:
Shard of Pride:Penalty: You suffer delusions of grandeur, and are sickened whenever you must serve another creature as a subordinate of any sort for as long as that arrangement persists. You can neither gain the benefit of the aid another action, nor take the aid another action.
The second half of the penalty is strait forward, listing what cannot be used. but the first half is subjective. As i read it, any character participating in a PFS scenario would be subject to it. At a gameday I can see this as being a constant pain for the player as few judges will want to truly RP out how a Venture Cpt. would approach the player who had this shard. Admittedly some VC's wouldn't care, but there are some who would definitely respect it like Sheila Heidmarch.

This is why I ask if the penalty can be negated by use of the secondary item.

Grand Lodge **

Pathfinder Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Campaign Setting, Companion, Modules Subscriber
CDR Derf wrote:
Still would like to know if a character can negate the penalty using the method listed in the adventure path?

No. If they could, it would say so on the chronicle sheet.

Qadira ***** RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16

Then, pretty much, that Chronicle requires the character to be sickened whenever he acts on orders from the Pathfinder Society, in any capacity other than "member of the Decemvirate". He'd still be able to participate in modules, of course.

***** Venture-Lieutenant, Massachusetts—Boston aka Rogue Eidolon

Chris Mortika wrote:
Then, pretty much, that Chronicle requires the character to be sickened whenever he acts on orders from the Pathfinder Society, in any capacity other than "member of the Decemvirate". He'd still be able to participate in modules, of course.

OK, I'm late to the party because I'm playing SS and just finish Part 1. I have to say, if the player is roleplaying the curse appropriately, using Natalya as a cue, the sickened condition is the least of your worries--it's not going to be that the character is like "Well I love following orders and cooperating with you guys, but unfortunately this weird curse is giving me sickened penalties and negating my aid anothers. My apologies for that." He or she is going to be a hyper-arrogant overconfident arse.

It seems like the versions of the shards with permanent curses (which I agree are definitely what you get on the sheet currently, and since the ioun stones aren't listed as items on the chronicle, you won't even have enough fame for them right away anyway) are going to cause a lot of trouble with the "don't be a jerk" clause of the Guide.

I mean, normally if someone makes a super-prideful or super-greedy character and you remind them of "Don't be a jerk" they might say "I'm just playing my character" and you can say "Can you please modify your character to be less of a jerk then? You have the choice to make a more agreeable character, so choosing this personality is being a jerk" But with Shards of Sin, they might say "I'm really sorry, but I have this chronicle with cursed items that are forcing me to act this way--it wasn't my initial vision of the character at all. If you like, I can switch to the cursed item that makes my character super-slutty instead. If it's still a problem, I can just play a pregen. If this keeps happening, maybe I'll just retire this character."

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